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legendary
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January 16, 2013, 09:30:07 PM
#28
I guess from one troll to another  - welcome back  will I don't know about coming back but ya ....  Shocked
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
January 16, 2013, 08:59:36 PM
#27
welcome back  Smiley
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 06:17:43 PM
#26
Well, I've e-mailed you.

Trying to put things right is better than running away.
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January 16, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
#25
Unless you pay your debts, you are not welcome here.

You are a lying, scamming sack of shit and you make me sick.

Fuck off and don't come back.
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 05:35:51 PM
#24
It is good that you acknowledge your mistakes and stop running away but it will be a long process until you regain the respect of the community. That said, I definitely think that you can still contribute in a positive way and I'm the last to deny somebody another chance.

For what it's worth: welcome back!
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January 16, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
#23
Quote from: MNW
I could easily disappear and continue working behind the scenes, but I don't think that's what I ever wanted, and it's not what anyone else deserves.

This seems to be more about the bolded part of your statement more than anything else.  It's fine if you don't want to be an invisible player who works behind the scenes, but that's about your own wants and I don't think you should try to dress it up in terms of what the community "deserves". 

The intended meaning was that no one deserves to have their problems ignored by the person who caused them, and that the proper response isn't to simply change identities/go underground, rinse and repeat, but rather to stay above ground, find resolution, and then decide what to do with oneself once all has been handled.
hero member
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January 16, 2013, 05:12:30 PM
#22
Self reflection, self insight, and  a willingness to change is a good starting point, some people never get there.
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January 16, 2013, 05:05:16 PM
#21
Quote from: MNW
I could easily disappear and continue working behind the scenes, but I don't think that's what I ever wanted, and it's not what anyone else deserves.

This seems to be more about the bolded part of your statement more than anything else.  It's fine if you don't want to be an invisible player who works behind the scenes, but that's about your own wants and I don't think you should try to dress it up in terms of what the community "deserves". 
legendary
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Hello!
January 16, 2013, 04:56:23 PM
#20
I forget if you owe me money or not, do you?
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Your Argument is Irrelephant
January 16, 2013, 04:55:43 PM
#19
I would just like to acknowledge to MNW that I read this and also that I somehow feel sorry for you that you got involved in the internet relay chats over in #btcst so many moons ago. I never participated in any particular betting or forum conversations on this matter, but I'm very aware of it.

Let me summarize a very critical moment when "steamboat" a person or individual who was authenticated to IRC nickserv as pirateat40 said to MNW:

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"OK MNW the time is up, now make a trade with me an unload all that debt. Let them blame it on me."

MNW replied no that it was his responsibility.

"steamboat" says something about how MNW doesn't want this responsibility it is too big.

I say something about how if MNW were to make this "debt swap" he would lose all credibility.

MNW agrees with me and proceeds down this path, decisively.


I forget the particulars on the dates but it happened like this and I witnessed the moment MNW could have walked away and blamed this on someone else easily and he did not, he accepted his fate at that very moment in time. This was at least a week before he was scammer-tagged.

I don't really condone any of it or have any association with Matthew, I just thought I'd share.
administrator
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January 16, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
#18
You should contact all of the people you owe money and renegotiate your debt with them. A lot of people would probably be willing to forgive your debt entirely or take only a small percentage.
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The future begins today
January 16, 2013, 04:03:47 PM
#17
You own me a magazine Matthew ! Are you going to the Oprah show too ? Grin

I hope you try to correct your actions and that you learn with the big mistake you did.
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January 16, 2013, 03:56:21 PM
#16
But make it clear that this guy dislike me

All has been forgotten and forgiven. I don't hold any hostility towards anyone here any longer.

Are you in rehab? I hope this sudden insight comes from rehab.

I am in the process of rehabilitating, but not in the sense I think you mean (prison? hospital?), just months of hearing other people's points of view on life and realizing how blind, uneducated and self destructive I've been. As a result, I am finding it harder to argue my significance to myself (read: learning humility), but I posted here tonight to insure that that did not become an excuse for my previous actions.

Quite the opposite, they were hedging by buying passthrough bonds and also betting. If anything, he influenced them to lose more. That's of course their own fault for trusting him as a longtime community member, but it doesn't make it any less of a scumbag move on his part.

This is true. My original defensiveness held for a few weeks, but after that I could no longer deny to myself that I had caused real damage. The only question then was how to approach resolution. I knew I couldn't do that without changing my attitude and some of my personality in the process, so I began to read. In reading, I have come to understand a bit more about why bitcoin is useful, not just as a tool, but as a political wedge for the future. I have never believed the governments are inherently wrong, evil and against us, but the more I see corruption and deceit around me, and the more I stumble myself, the more I realize that man himself is fallible and the future of mankind should be one that relies on science, not emotions. Bitcoin, even if it is not perfect, is a great example of a proof of concept to use science to handle financial transactions. It doesn't fit currently popular ideals for economics, and it may never at that, but I would never be able to live with myself if I let a movement like bitcoin suffer because I was too embarrassed of my own mistakes. I don't want to be someone everyone depends on, I make mistakes. I want to be useful though, and I can't do that if I'm not learning and fixing my mistakes.
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 03:53:17 PM
#15
Is possible that at the end he did a favor to those who "lost" money because of his bet, since I think that the majority was for selling their shares in glbse to meet bet, then shortly after glbse died.

But make it clear that this guy dislike me
Quite the opposite, they were hedging by buying passthrough bonds and also betting. If anything, he influenced them to lose more. That's of course their own fault for trusting him as a longtime community member, but it doesn't make it any less of a scumbag move on his part.

You're right and now I just realized that is MY CASE Angry
KWH
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 03:47:03 PM
#14
At least give us something Dank to be amused over. Come on, do the Dank for the community.
hero member
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January 16, 2013, 03:44:25 PM
#13
Is possible that at the end he did a favor to those who "lost" money because of his bet, since I think that the majority was for selling their shares in glbse to meet bet, then shortly after glbse died.

But make it clear that this guy dislike me
Quite the opposite, they were hedging by buying passthrough bonds and also betting. If anything, he influenced them to lose more. That's of course their own fault for trusting him as a longtime community member, but it doesn't make it any less of a scumbag move on his part.
legendary
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January 16, 2013, 03:38:47 PM
#12
Is possible that at the end he did a favor to those who "lost" money because of his bet, since I think that the majority was for selling their shares in glbse to meet bet, then shortly after glbse died.

But make it clear that this guy dislike me
hero member
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January 16, 2013, 03:37:18 PM
#11
Are you in rehab? I hope this sudden insight comes from rehab.
hero member
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January 16, 2013, 03:31:08 PM
#10
Why is this guy have a scamer tag?

What bets where you involved in?

Also, with that scammer tag, you're not going to get much sympathy here.

I've been very well known in bitcoin as both a  troll and a developer and made a public stunt bet that something wasn't a ponzi that turned out to be a ponzi, but so many people had gotten involved into it that the heat normally intended for the ponzi operator came crashing on to me partially as well. Lots of anger. I was known as someone who was energetic, but I didn't know when to stop and went way too far into an area I had no experience in (finances) and it's something I want to correct. I'm here to try and make things right directly with the individuals whom I have wronged with my bad behavior.
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January 16, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
#9
Oh, wow, fuck this guy and his sob story.
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