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Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.
That's right, I agree with you, forcing someone to be a little harsh will only cause debates which will lead to fights or arguments which will make the chemistry between families no longer harmonious. So it's better to advise them to remain gentle even though it doesn't work for those who have stubborn nature but still over time they will melt. Like a stone that continues to be dripped with water over time the stone will become punctured due to the drops so advising an addict we really have to be patient especially if they are our family and we love them by continuing to advise them, if things This still doesn't work. You can leave it to those who are experts in handling cases like this. Curing an addict is indeed difficult and won't work just because of advice or being rude.

Well, the main factor that can encourage a person to stop is only himself who has the determination to recover with the encouragement within himself to recover then he will be easy to stop but if there is a coercion factor and he has no intention to stop himself then it will be difficult to get rid of it will continue to think of ways to continue gambling even when everyone has forbidden it, they will still make every effort to fulfill their desires.
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It all depends on your relationship with this family member.  Is it a brother or sister, or perhaps a mother or father? There's obviously going to be a big difference in how you would handle these types of situations depending on your exact relationship with the "addict".  An important thing to remember is that many people will be unwilling to change their ways until they hit "rock bottom".  Just something to always keep in mind.
Doesnt matter whether your father or your sister as long it would really be that inside the family then each member does have the rights on trying out to help someone whose at in trouble but of course it would really be that something that depends if its already that too obvious or already that asking for some help. There are no other things in life on which you could really be able to get help from but first will be your family and as a family member then you would really be doing your very best to help on whose at having those addiction problems. We do know that if it becomes even more worst then the family would really be that
still affected with that and we cant really be able to afford on letting them suffer and we would really be helping out as much as we could. So proper explanation and helping them out to get rid of gambling
on what are the possible things that you could really be able to help on.
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It all depends on your relationship with this family member.  Is it a brother or sister, or perhaps a mother or father? There's obviously going to be a big difference in how you would handle these types of situations depending on your exact relationship with the "addict".  An important thing to remember is that many people will be unwilling to change their ways until they hit "rock bottom".  Just something to always keep in mind.
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Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

Closeness doesn't make helping and addicted gamblersl difficult, the problem lies in the affected person, if the addicted gambler is so deep, it will be difficult to help the person out but if the person is not deep into gambling, you might have your way out of him if you try harder.

A friend that you are actually closer to will likely listen to you no matter how deep the person is in gambling, if you talk to them and they never listen to you for once, the you guys are never close in the first place. A friend does listen to another person in all situation.

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As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

When you said approach, I laugh because you are making gambling addiction looks like a person that is running mad. An addiction is just when someone who loves gambling don't behave as a regular person, like consistently borrowing money to gamble, ready to place money everyday, these things are just things you discuss with mouth and nothing serious, just know that you can't force adult to your will.
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That's why it's really better to refer them to consult with professionals because those medical allied are always there to help them recover from whatever they are going through and at the same time, extending emotional support from their family will also help them more because people under the influence of addiction, their minds and awareness are divided, they still have the feeling that they want to get out of the situation so they also have to help themselves.

Indeed, some gamblers have the strength and energy to help themselves escape gambling addiction. But it's only possible if the gambler later realizes he's no longer living his real lifestyle. Gambling could redirect the thoughts of a player to think he's still on the right track. Those players who still have themselves on check despite suffering addiction can escape addiction with lesser help from friends. But a player who is still glued and enjoys his addiction will hardly comply with his helpers. As he is still in love with the problem such that he hardly thinks of something else.

However, they still get to realize that their lifestyle is not orderly, but it's easily forgotten when the addict feels like to gamble. Such gamblers need to be allowed enough time to have a rethink before taking them to a therapist. If he's not interested in getting better they'll be no therapy. Hence, I'll refer an addict who actually wants to change to therapy. And try as much as possible to get the countervailing addict to focus on something else which could make him have some distractions whenever he wants to gamble. He could be participating in two other activities which he loves. Thereby, cutting short the time he invest on gambling.
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.

It is a personal perception I have on gambling addiction, if the person who is addicted to gambling has not get involved with drugs and other illegal substances, then I still there is a good percentage, a good chance for that person to fully recover from their situation and start again to live a healthy life with no addictions.
I say it because I have seen stories of people who were pretty much addicted to hard drugs like Cocaine and crack cocaine and some of them managed to recover and stay clean for a long time until reaching a healthy and productive life again. So that could be a signal of hope for anyone who is dealing with problem gambling and no drugs.

Also, keep in mind, while it is true one is supposed to find professional help to treat gambling addiction, that professional help is not always at the reach of people, mostly because the economical situation of the family/household and the costs of those healthcare programs. It would be better for people going through it to have some subsidized help from the government, instead on going for quacks and purely religious help.
Yes, i do agree with this approach on which there's still really that chance that it would really be resolved out considering that he/she's really not that still involved with other forms of addiction on which this could really be simply means that they would really be having that kind of chance on having such recovery in terms of this one on where we do know that their mind is really that only focus on gambling addiction and not on having others like drugs or any forms of addiction on which this would really be making more the situation even gets tougher. This is why it would really be best that when helping out someone whose inside the family then a better approach on that #1 on which it will really be that recommended on trying out to be calm and something that more chill to explain about its cons and its something that should really be needing up to stop
rather than on trying out to scold them up for them to quit. Getting harshs approach wouldnt really be leading you nowhere but somehow if that #1 wont work then you would be going for #2 of course.
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.

It is a personal perception I have on gambling addiction, if the person who is addicted to gambling has not get involved with drugs and other illegal substances, then I still there is a good percentage, a good chance for that person to fully recover from their situation and start again to live a healthy life with no addictions.
I say it because I have seen stories of people who were pretty much addicted to hard drugs like Cocaine and crack cocaine and some of them managed to recover and stay clean for a long time until reaching a healthy and productive life again. So that could be a signal of hope for anyone who is dealing with problem gambling and no drugs.

Also, keep in mind, while it is true one is supposed to find professional help to treat gambling addiction, that professional help is not always at the reach of people, mostly because the economical situation of the family/household and the costs of those healthcare programs. It would be better for people going through it to have some subsidized help from the government, instead on going for quacks and purely religious help.
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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Number one would probably be better because forcing the person to stop will take them away from us so that we can no longer monitor them or approach them to give them advice and resuscitate them.
However, of all this, in my opinion, the most appropriate thing is to take him to a professional to get the right treatment because an expert has the right method to apply and help the person, although it cannot be denied that success also depends on the person's willingness to get out of the addiction they are experiencing, so no matter how hard we try to help him, it won't work if he refuses to recover from addiction.
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I would choose to tell them harshly to come to their senses and tell them real facts and truths on what's happening but sometimes being harsh doesn't help at all and staying and sticking to the person too. It still depends on the individual but the best and the effective way to help them is not by talking or staying beside them but seeking professional help as you will not know the effect of what you are doing to them. Sometimes when you are trying to help, they become more aggressive and be more addictive to gambling than helping them out but this is case to case scenario.
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

That's true , because being mean to them won't change anything And it might even endup making things worse, so is better to be gentle and nice to them , and always keep them busy with other activities that will remove Their kind from gambling for sometime, and try be patient with them , because it took alot of gambling sections before being addicted to gambling, so it may take time before that individual can limit the urge of gambling regularly.
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Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

Kicking them out is risky on its own. Because if he's family, nothing will make you forget about him. They'll always be on your mind and if they eventually get into trouble, it'll bother you as well. I think working alongside their emotional problem will help the person have a rethink. Sometimes argument won't help, in cases like addiction. Because the player doesn't think he's wrong with his actions. Hence, taking care of the person seem to be the right option and more effective. It's quite difficult, but it's worth doing.

Helping other people out of their trouble also helps in building a better society. Doing it the tough ways hurts both the helper and the recipient. Thereby, increasing the anger on seeing one another. That's why therapists don't engage into argument with their clients. They focus more on building strong relationship with the person, making them smile, remind them of their past and change their perspectives of life. Some approaches with kindness is more effective to invite a positive self thought on the addict. When the player gets better, it's a fine idea to refer them to a therapist for some finishing touches.

That's why it's really better to refer them to consult with professionals because those medical allied are always there to help them recover from whatever they are going through and at the same time, extending emotional support from their family will also help them more because people under the influence of addiction, their minds and awareness are divided, they still have the feeling that they want to get out of the situation so they also have to help themselves.
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Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.

Kicking them out is risky on its own. Because if he's family, nothing will make you forget about him. They'll always be on your mind and if they eventually get into trouble, it'll bother you as well. I think working alongside their emotional problem will help the person have a rethink. Sometimes argument won't help, in cases like addiction. Because the player doesn't think he's wrong with his actions. Hence, taking care of the person seem to be the right option and more effective. It's quite difficult, but it's worth doing.

Helping other people out of their trouble also helps in building a better society. Doing it the tough ways hurts both the helper and the recipient. Thereby, increasing the anger on seeing one another. That's why therapists don't engage into argument with their clients. They focus more on building strong relationship with the person, making them smile, remind them of their past and change their perspectives of life. Some approaches with kindness is more effective to invite a positive self thought on the addict. When the player gets better, it's a fine idea to refer them to a therapist for some finishing touches.
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Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.

Helping a person going through such an experience is never easy, and it is even more difficult if that person is living with you, however there is not really an approach that works best over the other, and instead we must adjust our actions based on the circumstances.

As if we see that this person is reacting positively to our suggestions, then taking a soft approach is the best option, but if that person begins to refuse our advice and they even steal money or other stuff from us, then that is the time to take a hard stand, and if things do not improve, it may be even necessary to kick them out of your house before you lose everything due to their addiction.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
Op your first option is quite advisable, talking to them and also try to encourage them. But looking at your second option, i guess it is not nice to shout at them, there is this adage that says the only way to stop a criminal from stealing is by keeping those items that he steals to be in his custody but that can not apply to all the criminals because some of them will also steal those items.

talking about the best way to assist an addictive gambler, i will suggest 'ABSTAINANCE' , when you make the person to abstain from everything that has to do with gambling, keeping him or her away from his or gambling friends, do not allow him to get close to any betting shop or casino house, distance him or her from traditional gamblers, and also regulate his mobile phones and keep his mind busy with something else that is interesting more than gambling.

lastly being gentle and soft will make them learn easier, because when you shout at them or beat them, they will still gamble believing that you can either beat them or shout at them. however, being gentle and soft will make them realize their mistakes because your soft advice will weaken their emotions and they will be reflecting on the words till they change or stop gambling.
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People who are addicted to something usually want some distance from normal life. They try to keep their distance from those of us who live normal lives and prefer to spend time with people who are in their nature. If it's someone I know or a family member of course I will try to help him but if someone I don't know does this then it's hard for me to help him. Whenever I go to help him with these things, he will come and try to follow my ways without giving importance to my issues. If my friendly neighbor lives like this, I will try to do what I need to do to bring him back to a normal life. I will try to bag the free time with him and try to keep him busy in various sports besides taking him for walks so that he will slowly forget his bad deeds from his brain.

I have noticed, not in most cases, rarely, that an addict gets better when he encounters a painful event. An addict who slept in his room, and woke up, the next morning, in a sick bed will have a rethink. And accept to visit a therapist or get help. Addiction is a sickness, and requires consistent, adequate treatment. The addict undergoes series of pains, best known to him, but can't share his problems, due to stigma, probably. They are not getting the deserved love a sick person is entitled to get.

However, the society careless about such sicknesses, mental illness, and blame the victim. But forget that it could happen to anybody. Nobody is too good, or too bad. Hence, paying visits and assisting an addicted friend by any means possible does a great change to the player's health. Although, as you said, they conceal the pains and make everything look normal. Only a close fellow will understand the difference in his lifestyle.
They don`t know what the love means. They just will use it for their own purposes. You are right - it is illness, and the treatment usually hurts. Don`t spend resources trying to care about addict - the best way to show your love is to make him work with the problem. He willn`t do anything with his life as long as you cares about him, he don`t need it.
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People who are addicted to something usually want some distance from normal life. They try to keep their distance from those of us who live normal lives and prefer to spend time with people who are in their nature. If it's someone I know or a family member of course I will try to help him but if someone I don't know does this then it's hard for me to help him. Whenever I go to help him with these things, he will come and try to follow my ways without giving importance to my issues. If my friendly neighbor lives like this, I will try to do what I need to do to bring him back to a normal life. I will try to bag the free time with him and try to keep him busy in various sports besides taking him for walks so that he will slowly forget his bad deeds from his brain.

I have noticed, not in most cases, rarely, that an addict gets better when he encounters a painful event. An addict who slept in his room, and woke up, the next morning, in a sick bed will have a rethink. And accept to visit a therapist or get help. Addiction is a sickness, and requires consistent, adequate treatment. The addict undergoes series of pains, best known to him, but can't share his problems, due to stigma, probably. They are not getting the deserved love a sick person is entitled to get.

However, the society careless about such sicknesses, mental illness, and blame the victim. But forget that it could happen to anybody. Nobody is too good, or too bad. Hence, paying visits and assisting an addicted friend by any means possible does a great change to the player's health. Although, as you said, they conceal the pains and make everything look normal. Only a close fellow will understand the difference in his lifestyle.
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Forget yelling and finger-pointing. Instead, have a chill conversation. Let them know you care and want to help them beat this gambling thing. Try to see things from their perspective. What's pushing them to gamble? Maybe they're stressed, bored, or something else is going on. By understanding them better, you can offer support without the judgment.

Loving someone doesn't mean letting them keep digging a hole. Set some clear ground rules, like not lending them cash or rescuing them from gambling debts. It's tough love, but it shows you care and want them to get back on their feet. You can't fix everything yourself. A therapist can help them unpack the reasons behind the gambling and teach them how to deal with cravings. Find some treatment options and nudge them towards getting professional help. Getting better isn't always a straight line. There might be bumps in the road. Don't freak out! Be there for them, remind them of the progress they've made, and help them get back on track.
Our approach will be really sensible. Tough love is involved. Showing care by setting boundaries is important, not cutting them off. No gambling debt bailouts or monetary aid. Its firm and tough, but it demonstrates you want to help them win in life, not slots.

Professional help? An absolute must. I know the best individuals, including therapists. They're experts at decoding these complex habits and getting to the root cause. Its not defeatist to suggest therapy - its planning a huge comeback. Remember, slips happen. Dont panic when they do. Show them their progress. Sometimes you take two steps forward and one step back when negotiating a huge deal. But you persevere. Thats wining.
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with those who are addicted to gambling, maybe they underestimate gambling so much that they experience unwanted situations such as losing a lot of money while gambling. also maybe they don't see the bad side of gambling, because they only think about winning so they don't care about the impact that will happen, it's true what you said, after they are addicted to gambling and experience losing large amounts of money then they need help but it's possible , because someone who has gambled is unlikely to be able to realize it easily, of course they will only gamble continuously even if it only ends in defeat. If they can come to their senses then they will do their best to leave their addiction, whether it's exercising as you said or doing other things that are more beneficial.

Of course, if they really want to leave their gambling addiction, they must be disciplined in carrying out their daily activities, so that they are not easily attracted to gambling again. because currently there is a lot of online gambling going on, of course there are people in their environment who are also addicted to gambling, and when they win, this is the test, they have to be able to restrain themselves so as not to be attracted by other people who win from gambling. If they are interested in gambling again, it is likely that their efforts will fail and they will return to gambling even more aggressively. For those who are addicted, it won't be easy to get out of this detrimental cycle, because they only think about winning so they probably won't be able to get out of it easily.

Yes, basically the active player only thinks about winning and winning, sometimes he does not care about what he can lose, he is only interested in playing to win and win back, then that becomes a vicious circle because the player will only focus on playing. and win as it is, therefore sometimes that is not possible, and if it is not possible, other things have to be done, what is recommended is to leave it, but since it will not leave that, what you have to do is take urgent measures One of them is that the person who bets a lot will try to get him to entertain himself in another activity, make him leave the casino a little so that he can dedicate himself to something else, like playing sports, so that he gets tired, so that his body gets tired. , but that is difficult, also the fact that you accept that you have an orbelm that can sometimes be the most difficult, as long as you do not accept it, the person will continue to spend, become decapitated and lose as time passes.

So that's the kind of disorder that an addict can make, but what can be the chances of being cured? The first thing to do is to accept that you have the problem , to be able to act, as long as you do not accept it, you will be lost, the same person has to realize that they are falling into a difficult hole to get out of, at the moment they know From that problem, it is simple, you start taking measures, the best thing is to go to a psychologist, or psychiatrist, depending on what the person has, if they are addicted in an advanced way, then other things can be done to help, but the first thing is professional help.

In my opinion, people who are addicted to gambling will of course only think about gambling and winning, they tend not to care about what happens, in the end of winning or losing they will continue to gamble, because thinking about gambling is a must because they are addicted to gambling. What you say is correct, of course what you have to do is leave it, that can reduce the problem, but you also have to look at whether or not the main perpetrators are able to accept suggestions and directions from us, of course we as friends or even family want the best, when When a problem comes and befalls it must be resolved. forcing them to do other things that are more useful and more reasonable might be possible, but returning to the main actor, he must be able to receive direction from us, and in my opinion the key is in awareness, they must have their own awareness first, with I think they can receive direction from other people. because someone who is addicted to gambling will of course not be able to easily accept advice and input as well as direction from other people, even their family.

As I have said, the main perpetrator must first be able to realize on their own that they already have a serious problem, and only then can we take action to encourage and support them so they can recover from their addiction. If indeed they have self-awareness, it is possible that they will also try to recover in their own way, as you said, by consulting a psychologist, that might be one way that can be done so that they can recover. In my opinion, even if you get help from a professional, it's useless if they don't have their own awareness. but what you say makes sense too.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.
I think even a large stake wouldn't make them self-cure and as you said, they will most probably trick you instead by gambling when there is no one around using accounts that they hide and no one can know whether they did it or not. So I agree that such tricks or challenges would barely work on addicted gamblers. Such a thing might work like a charm on someone who is just getting addicted and isn't completely in it yet.

If one offers a huge sum to an addicted gambler not to gamble for a certain amount of time, they will surely find a way to cheat the challenger unless the person challenging them finds a way to have some surveillance over the gambler at all times so that they don't get to cheat.
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Breaking the addiction hinges on the gambler themself recognizing the problem.  We can offer guidance, but ultimately, the desire to change has to come from within.  It's like that moment you realize you've been mindlessly scrolling social media for hours – that spark of awareness is crucial.

Lectures and ultimatums rarely work with addiction.  Imagine yelling at someone to stop eating cake when they're in the throes of a sugar rush.  Not effective.  Instead, compassionate support can be a powerful tool.  Listen without judgment, offer resources, and be a source of strength, not shame.

We can't control the addict's choices, but we can be a safety net.  Maybe it's helping them set limits on spending, accompanying them to therapy sessions, or simply being a listening ear.  Every bit of support makes a difference.
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