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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

It depends on the character of the person, there are persons you can persuade by being soft and understanding and there are people you can persuade by being harder on them so it's a case-to-case basis when dealing with a person who is addicted to gambling.

But it is better to let the professional do their things, some gamblers are deceptive they will say they are going to stop but when you're not looking they'll still play, and they are good at concealing their behavior and where and when they are playing.

So it is better that a real doctor who deals with gambling addiction deal with this person because they spent years of training to communicate with these compulsive gamblers, our responsibility is to lead them here and urge them to consult.

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Sometimes it is not easy to get out of an addiction problem as it is Believed , or as they say, yes, in part the Person who suffers from the Addiction has to put in his full Effort and will so that his things can see that addiction is a problem that It has to Affect that person and those around them, that one's own will to be cured is essential for that morale to be very high, but in part what must be done is that the people Around them can have a lot to do with it. What they can do for them , forExample a parent who goes to a psychologist can help a person a lot in that sense, not only can sometimes you get out of it, the people who are all the time looking for a way to Overcome this have to have help, sometimes they need someone's push to get out of what they are in , we as People who are intelligent, why should we see the niche of the rpobelma from every point of View , we Know that the will is Something that is must have , but its own to Review Everything that the treatment can generate.

People who are very Addicted lose their self-esteem , lose their security and Sometimes lose Sense of responsibility by indulging in addiction, who knows who is to blame? Is it the casinos fault? No, it's not the fault of the case or the game, that's primarily the addiction because the person allows it to happen, because they don't know how to stop themselves and put the most important things before their life, nor does a person who needs it have to do so much. your money in a casino, because it is something that is not viable, so in this order of ideas things should not be seen in that sense I was able to say that when we are looking for more ways to overcome things, an addicted Person sometimes needs good advice from a friend, good treatment, for the person to Recover psychologically from what they are suffering from, to get back to it,  his confidence and his way of solving problems.
It's never easy to get out, and we could even ask a question if there's a choice involved. When people are sick and have fever, we rarely blame them for being sick. Addiction is a sickness as well why would we treat them any different? But finding the blame is what humans tend to do, as they see this an issue with someone doing something wrong from their own free will. You are spot on that treatment is necessary, because these people need help. They obviously can't just snap out of it or they would have already done it. Reasoning addict can be very frustrating because they are not following same rules, and often have delusions of grandeur about their own capabilities and future.

Well, whenever it comes to doing things well, one knows that something as delicate as addiction must be treated quickly and urgently and without waiting too long, but with immediate attention, that is something that we should know, of course we What we will always think is that the best thing is to go to a psychologist and if the addiction is strong, then very big measures have to be taken, as has been done on other occasions, things must be treated urgently, it is not to be thought that this will be It heals alone, because the more time passes, the greater the degree of complexity there is, so when we are thinking about doing different things, we must be very clear that things are different, for me the best thing that can be done It is treating the addiction quickly, because the addiction not only takes away your money, it also leaves you without friends, without family, and with nothing, in truth that is one of the bears that have the most bad reaction, so no one with the addiction should treat it Immediately, do not think about what is going to happen, because the most important thing is to heal.

When we see a person who suffers from a gambling addiction, it is difficult, both for that person and the family. If the person does not have a family, we have to emphasize that things will always need to be treated quickly, there is no other way. , we are people who must always do the best possible for everything, in this order of days if we concentrate on doing any thing, it does not matter if the solution for an addicted person is for him to do sleep cures , when someone is very bad, well That can be a solution because it calms you down and takes away your Anxiety You shouldn't do anything unless you are clear about what you are suffering from, so any measure that is taken is good, of course without affecting the mental health of the person , always the integrity and growth of the person should not be affected.
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The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
But at least you are trying out to help them or give out advises but somewhat its true on what you have said that it would really be that still depending with their own self realizations.
We do know that there would really be that sense of responsibility on the time that they would really be doing gambling. Now that if its one of the family members had fall down into such addiction
then this is where they would really be making themselves that doing those impulsive things on which it would really be that become the result on messing up your life with.
As part of the family then it would really be just that right that you should really be helping them at least since its our family.

Helping others in anything that leads to goodness is always recommended especially in helping them to get out of the addiction zone, I understand that addiction is a very difficult disease to overcome because it involves a person's mindset that is wrong in viewing gambling, And of course as you said that even if you provide help to them in any way such as through a suggestion it is still very unlikely in the end that there will be a change for the better if it is very difficult for them to reach their level of awareness because as I said above that this disease lies in a person's mindset, even though in general according to normal people it is wrong but according to them it is normal and this is what makes it difficult for them to reach their awareness.

If this addiction is owned by one of your family then obviously the family is the first to help them to get out of this bad addiction phase, and on the other hand because usually the closest people especially family have a considerable influence on them and I think at least with this they will be more able to listen and consider various suggestions that come from their family members to be able to achieve awareness and change mindset.
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So not seeing this from a negative point of view, I think trying to change one's mindset and perspective towards gambling might help them get away from the addiction, and when it comes to verbal techniques, it isn't the same as forcing someone to get away from gambling physically or using forceful words.
I think this method can also be another alternative by providing good suggestions and input to change their mindset to be healthier. Sometimes we actually know that the problem of people who are addicted to gambling lies in their mindset, most of them think that gambling is a place to seek wealth online. instant, therefore they continue to pursue consciously to gain victory and wealth, but because the level of difficulty is very high they are trapped and become addicted to gambling.

If that happened to my family, of course this method can be done because in a gentle way it will definitely be successful in changing their mindset. If you suppress it with force, it is also not completely successful, although there are a few that are successful, but it will definitely leave a mark on their mentality, this method is actually more useful to me. I also recommend it because mindset is important, as I usually use the mindset that gambling is a place to look for fun and entertainment, nothing more than that, that's why I don't get addicted to gambling easily because I play responsibly. One thing that must be understood is that playing gambling responsibly will not make people addicted to gambling.
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If I have an addict that stays around me and I want to help him, i will first attack his mentality towards and about gambling.

There are obvious stories about gambling that he might not have heard about, I will even create negative imaginations about the downsides of gambling and next will be to engage him as a form of distraction from the regular gambling activities.
It's definitely not as simple as you think. Your approach could drive them into a frenzy making matters worse which is why this isn't the most efficient strategy and I am speaking from experience.

A calm and patient approach is required to deal with such addicts in my opinion. Think!
I don't think there is anything wrong with that approach. Most of the time, you can play with people's minds with words and stories which might change their perspective towards certain things because human psychology can be changed by someone who understands these things. People who study human psychology can easily change your mind with their words and verbal techniques and you won't even realize that they have just tricked you.

So not seeing this from a negative point of view, I think trying to change one's mindset and perspective towards gambling might help them get away from the addiction, and when it comes to verbal techniques, it isn't the same as forcing someone to get away from gambling physically or using forceful words.
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The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
But at least you are trying out to help them or give out advises but somewhat its true on what you have said that it would really be that still depending with their own self realizations.
We do know that there would really be that sense of responsibility on the time that they would really be doing gambling. Now that if its one of the family members had fall down into such addiction
then this is where they would really be making themselves that doing those impulsive things on which it would really be that become the result on messing up your life with.
As part of the family then it would really be just that right that you should really be helping them at least since its our family.
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None of it will work unless the addict himself wants to change himself. Even if there is a professional that will lead him to do this but if he is not trying both will fail.

Just like smoking habits, the person will not stop until something happens and he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit. Even the person who willingly wants to get rid of the habit will have a hard time, sometimes they will sneak around because old habits die hard.
Only the gambling addict himself really wants to change himself to want to cure himself of his gambling addiction. If not, he will still be a gambling addict without anyone being able to get him out of his gambling addiction. And he will also get deeper into gambling, and it could even get worse.

But when he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit, he will admit his gambling addiction and will ask for help from the people around him to help him cure his gambling addiction. He would really do a lot of things so that he could cure his gambling addiction. And even though they will encounter difficulties, they will not give up because they already have the desire to cure their gambling addiction.
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The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
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You can't be too gentle because that will make the guy feel like you're giving him suggestions, but don't be too harsh or you'll make an enemy out of him. If you push an addict, at some point the addict will feel like you don't want what's best for him and will start to ignore you or fight back. You want the person to realize that you're not doing it for yourself but want what's best for him.

What I'd do would depend on how damaging the person would be to themselves and people around them. You should have a different approach to a person who lies to you and steals from you, than you'd have towards someone who gambles to problems of life. There's so many types of gamblers and many levels of addiction so I can't give you a general advice that would fit them all.
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If we advise a gambling addict sarcastically, then it is like putting out a fire with kerosene. Where instead of the fire being extinguished, it only got bigger. And if that's the way to give advice, then what's the difference between us and them, who are just as stubborn, don't want to give in and are easily provoked by emotions?

When we are faced with a gambling addict and intend to advise him to recover from this addiction, then we are required to have extra patience. Because as I said earlier, they are stubborn, don't want to give in, are easily provoked by emotions, are temperamental, always feel they are right and don't want to accept the truth. To be able to make them aware of their bad behavior, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, where we have to do it slowly. We cannot at our initial meeting immediately advise him, where as much as possible we must create a feeling of comfort for him towards us until there is no longer any awkwardness between the two of them and slowly we must be able to enter his subconscious. And when we succeed at that point, then without being asked, the gambling addict will slowly talk about his problems in gambling.

I think the word persistent would be good for qualifying an addict instead of stubbornness. They're actually persisting to keep up with their habit. It then looks like stubbornness to people around him, as he'd hardly adhere to their advice or instruction to him. However, when in the midst of an addict, it's crucial to help out using any strategy available, other than being aggressive. Carefully, offering out some gambling tips and ways he could manage his funds helps the addict a lot. Building rapport with him is key. He faces trouble in gambling every day and would want to discuss with someone he can trust, who wouldn't yell or talk against his habit. Being there for him as a close friend, will open up a space for sharing of ideas and techniques that can change the thoughts of the gambler. However, it's a long-term process and the addict also need to be as comfortable as possible with the person. If not, he may not release relevant information about the level of his gambling addiction.
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If the heart asks, it is better to use it in a gentle way without any violence. It is better to understand the character of a gambling addict before starting, because both methods have good and bad sides. If the gambling addict is short-tempered, it is better to use it in a gentle way. If the addict tends to keep quiet, use rather harsh methods, don't be fooled by the gambler, usually they are very clever at hiding things and tend to lie.
That means we have to look for ways to approach gambling addicts by trying to recognize their character. We cannot directly express our desire to help them cure their gambling addiction because that could offend them and they will say that they are still fine. Gamblers who are addicted to gambling are very good at hiding it from many people so we have to keep looking for ways to get them to admit their gambling addiction. Once he is willing to admit it, we can invite him to visit a rehabilitation center to cure his gambling addiction. We still have to try to continue to support him so that he can be enthusiastic about curing his gambling addiction because he really needs support from his immediate family.
why do you have to go to rehabilitation, why not try to take him to go and relax, it will make him enjoy it more, besides, we as a family have to have a special approach to show affection for him, that we really care about him, if you take him to rehabilitation it seems not very good, building harmonious family relationships will show real results
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teaching them in a gentle way is much better in a rough way, usually gambling addicts usually have unstable temperaments, they get emotional easily, so why fight if we want to advise them, taking them to a place of worship to do physical activity together will much better help them to stop When playing gambling, keep an eye on it and gently prohibit it
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Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.
Yes, understanding and sensitivity are important, but let's face addiction's facts. Not just a poor habit, but a complex brain disorder. You say to take little steps and be companionable, but are we reaching the mark? People, addiction rewires the brain. It's about dopamine, reward circuits, and other neuroscience that doesn't disappear with handholding. No need to be a dictator, but too subtle a nudge is like speaking into the wind. A good plan and systematic support are needed. We shouldn't vilify all gambling while supporting it. Responsible recreational gambling exists. Joy should be refocused, not taken away. We should be clear-eyed about our situation. It's not just about being there; it's about being there effectively
He probably based on the two options mentioned by OP. Of course if it is being objective then best thing to do is to let professionals do their thing about the case and the rest will be on the procedures and 'treatments' to be done in order for the main subject to escape from addiction. Given that there are conditions such as being a family member, then things should be specified with the coping his family members would do. Choices are to be harsh or to be soft speaking to the addicted member if the family and practically viewing, no addiction will be aided completely with just being strict of how things should be done even if they/he already knows it but still became a victim of gambling addiction.

On my end, I would be preferring a strict or harsh way to help me quit gambling but to other gamblers who are suffering as well with the obsession, being or showing more empathy on them. Quite of a matter between reward and reinforcement and how things should be really done.
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Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.
Yes, understanding and sensitivity are important, but let's face addiction's facts. Not just a poor habit, but a complex brain disorder. You say to take little steps and be companionable, but are we reaching the mark? People, addiction rewires the brain. It's about dopamine, reward circuits, and other neuroscience that doesn't disappear with handholding. No need to be a dictator, but too subtle a nudge is like speaking into the wind. A good plan and systematic support are needed. We shouldn't vilify all gambling while supporting it. Responsible recreational gambling exists. Joy should be refocused, not taken away. We should be clear-eyed about our situation. It's not just about being there; it's about being there effectively
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If we advise a gambling addict sarcastically, then it is like putting out a fire with kerosene. Where instead of the fire being extinguished, it only got bigger. And if that's the way to give advice, then what's the difference between us and them, who are just as stubborn, don't want to give in and are easily provoked by emotions?

When we are faced with a gambling addict and intend to advise him to recover from this addiction, then we are required to have extra patience. Because as I said earlier, they are stubborn, don't want to give in, are easily provoked by emotions, are temperamental, always feel they are right and don't want to accept the truth. To be able to make them aware of their bad behavior, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, where we have to do it slowly. We cannot at our initial meeting immediately advise him, where as much as possible we must create a feeling of comfort for him towards us until there is no longer any awkwardness between the two of them and slowly we must be able to enter his subconscious. And when we succeed at that point, then without being asked, the gambling addict will slowly talk about his problems in gambling.
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Depends on his/her personality. To some people being authoritarian would work more but to some it would be better to be gentle with them. But in most instances, it would be better not to push things givej that addiction is the concern with the mentioned subject or family member. Given that it is addiction, being harsh and forcing them to quit won't solve the problem. It will just possibly result to another conflict which is between the two of you. What you need to do is to understand the situation of him and not on your perspective alone. Things are not easy for people who are suffering from addiction. Of course everyone knows it is bad to gambling too much so they won't be in such state for nothing and that's what you need to understand.

Take it with small steps. Isolate and give companion on his end to enjoy time and eventually forgot the drive he was having with gambling. Things won't happen in an instant. Keep in mind that it is a family member to you which means you need to consider more of his well-being than to be too subjective of what is right and what is wrong that they have done.
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
The two methods will work depending on the person. But the less likely to work out of the two methods is the second. I believe that we cannot achieve much when trying to help someone change a habit by use of force or harsh method. If you want to help them, get them professional help, so they can see reason why the habit they are picking up will be bad for them.

If you are harsh about correcting some kind of habits like this, your family or friend that you are trying to correct may react obstructively to your correction, pretend like they have taken correction and continue the habit in secret. Correction has to be carefully and decisively done.

None of it will work unless the addict himself wants to change himself. Even if there is a professional that will lead him to do this but if he is not trying both will fail.

Just like smoking habits, the person will not stop until something happens and he voluntarily wants to get rid of this habit. Even the person who willingly wants to get rid of the habit will have a hard time, sometimes they will sneak around because old habits die hard.
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.
The two methods will work depending on the person. But the less likely to work out of the two methods is the second. I believe that we cannot achieve much when trying to help someone change a habit by use of force or harsh method. If you want to help them, get them professional help, so they can see reason why the habit they are picking up will be bad for them.

If you are harsh about correcting some kind of habits like this, your family or friend that you are trying to correct may react obstructively to your correction, pretend like they have taken correction and continue the habit in secret. Correction has to be carefully and decisively done.
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Calm will also result for them to think that they can go over you and in time you might not know that you are already following them into being a gambler lol.
most of addicted people does not know calmness instead they are looking for things that can easily supply them what they need and what they can earn from that addiction.
There is no perfect approach here, but the calm approach seems to produce better results when compared to the aggressive approach which makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

Helping the addict to meet a psychologist is even better than both of these strategies in my honest opinion.
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For me it's little bit hard and challenging if we will help one of our family members away from gambling cause there's a chance that they will get angry with us but it won't happen if we slowly teach them how to leave in addiction we should have them a good and true happiness outside in gambling world. Cause addiction is very serious illness  its too hard to handle it self so we need some people to help out in a gambling world.
I think it is impossible to advise those who have experienced gambling addiction and we tell them to stop gambling that they will scold us and will never listen to what we tell them about the gambling they have done has had a bad impact on themselves. If they want to leave their own gambling addiction then other people can suggest to stop and give them advice because if they don't want to stop then other people will not be able to stop their gambling activities.

No mate I think you can still advise an addict who has been very deep in gambling to stop depending on how well you understand such person, they can actually get angry when you approach them with the topic but once you are able to talk to them politely with good reasons, not being too proud or hurtful in your words ro them they csn listen to you.


I get your point, and it is valid. Depending on how close you are to the person and how well you know the situation, you can still talk and open it up and try to take your advice in a polite way that the person will be able to adopt, though don't expect that it will be easily taken as knowing most of those gambling addicted person mostly have that a kind of attitude that they are denying their addiction,

Unless they are accepting it already and just like what you said, depending on the situation still.
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