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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
The best is to show them love and care so that they would know that they are not left behind. This is a practical way to deal with something that is addictive to gamble. We don't need to do what we make them to be angry or provoke their spirit and if things get worse, they might decide to move out of the house if the fund is available to they can play more bets and try their luck. If we found out that such methof is myt yielding any positive results, inviting more people to help in this situation would be another approach maybe to be very harsh as such person with strict hands so they can adapt to new chances.
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Nice idea! Showing them a someone who ruined by gambling might give them an intrusive thoughts once they are alone, or maybe it will help them to think and to admit that they are a gambling addict. Usually, An addict person always deny to theirselves that they are having an addiction because they knew in themselves that before they started gambling, they told themselves that they would not be like other people whose lives were ruined by gambling. They are usually indenial but if you ever show them or give them an example, that will really make them think.
Nice idea indeed! It is like showing a chain smoker a pack of cigarette where they drew and wrote horrible things about smoking, he will laugh at you and told you that he saw and read those things before opening the packet to take a stick. That is how strong addiction can be. Until an addicted gambler come to the realization that the addiction is a problem that he need to solve, all efforts at stopping him will not produce the desired result. One of the fastest way out of addiction is sense of responsibilities. One way of achieving this is if the gambler is single, advice him or her to get married, this way responsibility can lead to a slow down in gambling. Apart from this, my effort will go more into making the gambler know that there is a problem and when that is established, we can start looking for solutions. 
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In as much as option 2 wouldn’t work, I think you could improve option 1 to work better.
same as what I am thinking and we can conjoin those 2 for better outcome.

If you say conjoin then I don’t think we have the like thoughts on this. I clearly don’t agree with option 2 because you don’t force people out of an addiction. It is never done anywhere that I know of. In health, when it comes to people who smoke, they slowly reduce their consumption till it’s all gone. Asides that, I personally don’t like harsh approaches to such things. People would listen and understand better if you are subtle while explaining the effects they could face in the long run.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly,  an addicted gambler can also trick you while trying tricking them, they have all the lies inside them  as the only thing matters is to gamble,  and the way you are trying attempt helping them will be seen as option that will allow them to continue what they want, still gamble even the condition is not do so, at the end of the time frame in case they managed to win they can just take your money and go back to whatever type of gambling that they involve,  as simple as that since they knew that you are serious in giving them the reward else, they will not agree if they know that you don't have that seriousness inside you 😉
And it is really that hard to detect out if ever they would really be tending up to lie something or trying out to deny even if you have noticed it out. This is why on the time that they would really be doing it
then they would really be trying their best on not to be caught or something that could be seeing their odd movement or behavior or whatever it would be.We do only see those things
when its already too late on which the damage has already been done and this is something that should really be stopped. It would be a normal act or approach that you would really be helping
them as much as possible specially if its a family member.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly,  an addicted gambler can also trick you while trying tricking them, they have all the lies inside them  as the only thing matters is to gamble,  and the way you are trying attempt helping them will be seen as option that will allow them to continue what they want, still gamble even the condition is not do so, at the end of the time frame in case they managed to win they can just take your money and go back to whatever type of gambling that they involve,  as simple as that since they knew that you are serious in giving them the reward else, they will not agree if they know that you don't have that seriousness inside you 😉
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I already had relatives who were addicts and the method we used was to take them to the hospital, of course at the beginning when we told my addicted relative that he needed to go to the hospital because he was sick and it was very serious, he refused to admit that he was sick, That's because in his mind, being sick meant having some physical pain, so we explained to him that he was addicted to alcohol and drugs and that he needed treatment to be cured, but he refused, he wasn't thinking about the future. unfortunately when people are possessed by addiction they become blind, no matter what words you use they will ignore and pretend they are not listening, so we constantly insisted to my addicted relative that he needed to go for treatment but he continued to refuse

Time passed until a moment came when he became very ill in a serious condition, that's when he asked for help and made himself available so that after being physically cured, he went for treatment with doctors specializing in addictions, and he was cured physically and was admitted to the clinic for treatment of addicts and he was cured, it was months in hospital and in a clinic without access to visitors, but after a long time he started to live with people who were not well behaved and this led him to addiction again and we had He had to use the same method to cure him again, but after he was cured he returned to the addiction thanks to bad friendships, and this time he died. Unfortunately, curing addiction is something bad
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You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.


Exactly, I have a grandfather(my grandma brother) like this that is addicted to gambling on cards. Back then, gambling is still being done on the houses here in my country. He leaves with us since he doesn’t have family. He keeps using his pension on gambling even if we try to trick him that he will not be welcome to leave us when he keeps gambling.

He promised my grandma that he already stopped gambling and just watching in there to kill time but later on we found out that he keeps gambling when we interview one of his playmate.  Cheesy

There’s no way to stop an addicted gambler as long as they have the source of income to fund their addiction. We become tired on reminding him so we just let him do whatever he wants since he is already old. He died due to heart attack on his way after gambling. Until the end he still playing gambling even though he keeps losing.

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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
You may try to trick him with such challenge but he can trick you back by pretending to not gambling at all but in fact he is still gambling because you cant monitor him 24/7 even for a day.
How will you know that he is not gambling at all, because it is impossible if you can control his money as it is something personal/privacy.
Addicted gamblers will not care about such challenge unless you offer something really huge (an amount that he never own/won before) if he can do the challenge.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
This seems like a good idea to try and implement if you live with a gambling addict. But I also agree that it's too long and I don't think they would be able to agree to do it, because their urge to gamble every day would be stronger. I would probably start with a month first, I don't think that's a long time, nor is it a short time, although it might be a very long time in their mind. But I'm also sure they'll steal the time when they're not with us, because we can't be with them 24/7, right?
Apart from this, I also have other approaches such as showing them someone who was ruined by gambling. I'm sure they will also be evasive with this approach, including denying that they are an addict. But on the other hand I'm sure it will slowly enter into their thinking, yes they might be a little disturbed by the image of a person ruined by gambling. I try to play with their psychology, although the risk at the beginning is that they might think we are judging them about their gambling activities.

Nice idea! Showing them a someone who ruined by gambling might give them an intrusive thoughts once they are alone, or maybe it will help them to think and to admit that they are a gambling addict. Usually, An addict person always deny to theirselves that they are having an addiction because they knew in themselves that before they started gambling, they told themselves that they would not be like other people whose lives were ruined by gambling. They are usually indenial but if you ever show them or give them an example, that will really make them think.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

All possible comfort is the best, even if we say that they decide to play gambling and they are willing to let go of this kind of habit there's nothing wrong with supporting them and seeking other ways to let them change their perspective in life that is not just only circulating in the gambling.  Theres is nothing wrong with gambling but excessive playing is too much. If you can handle them good but if you cannot there's nothing wrong seeking a medical assistance to professionals, so they can give a suggestions, medicine if needed and therapy of course.
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It is not easy to cure gambling addiction, especially since he is a member of our family. But the most important thing is don't give up easily and don't walk away, don't be hated. However, we should show the same love and affection as we treat other family members, gather together to joke and laugh together, and invite them to go for a walk or see something positive and inspiring.
And the most important thing is to invite him to positive things, especially getting closer to God. And there is the right time and moment to be invited to talk face to face with heart, seriousness and also a little firmness.
Actually, it is not the addict who needs professional help, but rather us or all family members to find the best way with the help of people we consider reliable and who provide good advice to help us in the healing process.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
This seems like a good idea to try and implement if you live with a gambling addict. But I also agree that it's too long and I don't think they would be able to agree to do it, because their urge to gamble every day would be stronger. I would probably start with a month first, I don't think that's a long time, nor is it a short time, although it might be a very long time in their mind. But I'm also sure they'll steal the time when they're not with us, because we can't be with them 24/7, right?
Apart from this, I also have other approaches such as showing them someone who was ruined by gambling. I'm sure they will also be evasive with this approach, including denying that they are an addict. But on the other hand I'm sure it will slowly enter into their thinking, yes they might be a little disturbed by the image of a person ruined by gambling. I try to play with their psychology, although the risk at the beginning is that they might think we are judging them about their gambling activities.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
you're absolutely right,if an addict lives within first I will advice him never to gamble anymore, that if only him can stop this gambling I promise to provide all his need. though when someone is addicted to gambling they find it so difficult to withdraw from it, reason been that  whenever time they remember the money they lost ever since they started gambling till date,I think they can use the money to establish a very big business, considering all this lost they won't have the remise to change either.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
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There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.
It should come as no surprise that forcing someone to stop gambling against their will can backfire, resulting in increased frustration and resentment. Taking the time to speak with them face to face and offer advise and support is far more likely to have a positive impact. And an analogy of the stone being shaped by water over time is extremely powerful; it implies that change is possible, but it requires patience and persistence.
An introverted lifestyle shows a less communicative personality and even if we talk more to them, the story is just our presentation, it does not condense any other thoughts for them when they are just an emotional trash can and only know how to listen to a story and experience advice, they are not connected by such stories, their world is too special and prevents anyone from entering. Helping them can only lead them to experience the outside world more, like they need to find the rope to overcome difficult emotions inside without needing others to give them a clear path.
How is introvert the problem? Because I am, and I take advises very serious, especially about my well being and the decisions that I am about to make, been introvert doesn't mean we are all stone-cold at heart, as if we don't listen to people, that's a big lie about introverts.

Less communications doesn't mean we don't take advice, we are all different, even those who talks a lot still don't follow all advises, we all have the right to choose from the advice we are given and leave the rest.

Also, not all advises are good, you are the one to make your pick out of all the advices you are given, I will like to ask, is all advice a good one? I believe the answer is a no, either extrovert or introvert it's wiser to use your own brain and not just go with all the advice that people give you.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.

To me this is not silly at all although an addicted person will never agree to 6 months without gambling even if the price is huge if he can fulfill this promise.I think a more realistic approach would be starting with 2 weeks or something along these lines which is more doable even for an avid gambler.Even this short amount of time can help achieve some sort of self control to the addicted person,of course is not going to help since the first try but the more tries the more patience gained.
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If an addict lives with me, I would make him a bet he cant fulfil or win Cheesy I will try to trick him with "I bet you will able not to gamble for half a year" (actually any long period would do, but the longer the better). Will announce a solid price and wait to see how he will try to self cure. This might sound silly, but I think this might be helpful and do the trick. And I will repeat that few times. The effect will be unnoticeable from first glance, but it will at least train that person for self control.
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but I think that you should talk to the person and know their reason for gambling. You can’t solve a problem without knowing what the problem is. If the person says it’s because they don’t have money, then finding them a job will help them stop gambling because then they have Enough to not have a need to gamble.
I believe some people fall into addiction because they don't have money, or want to make easy money quickly as mentioned above. If he's already addicted, it would be difficult to solve it simply by giving them money or jobs. I'm pretty sure you've heard a story where a successful businessman falls into bankruptcy because he keeps gambling, or somebody falls into gambling debt even though he has a decent job because he can't stop gambling, etc. Even if he is not yet an addict, you'd need to change the environment to be as restrictive as possible to prevent him builds another habit of doing his gambling activity every day. Basically, whether the strategy will be effective will depend on each person.

the problem with addict people is that they don't want to look for regular job instead easy money in gambling.
While this is true for some people, not everyone fees into that category. Problem gamblers or people with addiction can be self-aware about it and try to find a solution but fail to work on it for various reasons. There is a reason why any addiction help sometimes refers to the reader as people with the addiction itself. I've also heard many stories on social media from people telling their experiences with various addictions from gambling to porn. It is a good thing if we don't generalize them and call them lazy just because some of them are like that. CMIIW.
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In as much as option 2 wouldn’t work, I think you could improve option 1 to work better.
same as what I am thinking and we can conjoin those 2 for better outcome.
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I’m not sure what you mean by not leaving their side for too long but I think that you should talk to the person and know their reason for gambling.
Maybe he means to never stay with them longer because they will find comfort from us.
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You can’t solve a problem without knowing what the problem is.
The problem is addiction and that is the only reason why we are talking here.
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If the person says it’s because they don’t have money, then finding them a job will help them stop gambling because then they have Enough to not have a need to gamble.
the problem with addict people is that they don't want to look for regular job instead easy money in gambling.
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most gamblers are not kids you sweet talk into stoping an addictive behaviour whenever they become addicted into gambling or try to become tough towards them as a remedy to curing Thier addictive behaviour. Most addict don't even know that they've become addicted to an act and before it becomes obvious in Thier eyes it must have eaten deep into Thier vains amd in most cases they are the ones that can easily liberate themselves off Thier addictive lifestyle.

It's good to attempt bringing them out of Thier addiction through whatever strategy you have thought of but the reality is that at the end of the day they are always the ones in yy best position to liberating themselves off Thier current situation. Although engaging them in conversation that guides them into reducing Thier rate of gambling could help but if you're trying to be tough on them, they will just like at you as someone who wouldn't understand what they are going through and might probably not open up how tough what they are facing is really disturbing them.
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I know your struggle is real. Family gambling addiction treatment needs patience, perseverance, and empathy. I've witnessed it. The secret? Communication, but its easier said than done. Yes, they may first ignore you. They may not acknowledge an issue. Addiction is like that. Be gentle but firm. Discuss their feelings and experiences, not simply gambling. Human connection comes first. Remember, it's process. Small, sustained efforts can lead to breakthroughs.

Also consider professional aid. Gambling addiction therapists and support groups exist. They provide help and strategies you may not be able to deliver. Its improving your support, not giving up.
Yes, you are right to mention communication. But we know it will never be easy to communicate with someone who is addicted to gambling.
They will not easily listen to other people's suggestions or words because they have closed their eyes and ears and think they are right. But we must not ignore them because they are one of our family members who we must look after and help if they are experiencing difficulties.
Gambling addiction is really difficult for everyone, but we have to be sure that we will definitely be given a way to help family members who are experiencing difficulties. If we really have difficulty dealing with gambling addicts, we can ask for help from other people, in this case, professional help, as you said. After all, those who are addicted to gambling are our family members who we must help.
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