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Quote from: moneystery on February 22, 2024, 12:12:33 PM

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.

Approaching someone with a forceful move in order to stop them from gambling is a very wrong move to ever start with because asides gambling, generally if you want to stop someone from doing something, using force will literally do more harm than good as some of such person will become very defensive or turn it into a challenge to see what you are capable of doing to them if they don't quit gambling or anything which you are trying to get them to stop doing.

Approach is a very important factor when it comes to helping someone quit that which you see and feel is doing them more harm than good, if you have got the best approach, I'm very sure you can get them to quit that which you intend they quit with like little or no stress because such person will give a listening ear and some taughts if the approach is such that they can real relate with well enough , applying empathy just like did mentioned is actually very effective,. because by such, the person understands that you are very much concerned about their well being and that's why you had brought up the fact that you would want the to quit and then they can put into consideration your suggestions to quitting but a wrong approach will give wrong results a d that which you intended cannot be achieved.

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

I think this is just the best approach to tackle that, you have to tell them the disadvantages of gambling addiction and give them reasons why they should stop it. Tell them things that will make them lose interest in gambling, but if you are planning to force them, then you won’t be able to achieve any result. All that will happen is that they will be gambling, but they will make it hidden, which is not going to solve the problem. If you want to stop an addicted gambler from gambling, first you should make them lose interest in gambling, they should have the mindset to stop gambling, then make sure you start doing things that will shift their attention away from gambling, spend time with them, and do things that will always make them happy.

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

Before taking action, we should determine first the overall status of that person.

Is he still in his normal self when being talked with?
Is he responding politely and kindly to your statements?
Is he still acting like the person you know from the start?

Giving harsh advice should only be considered depending on how close you are to that person.

Not all relatives are close to each other and open on any issues to discuss.

Those things wont be hard if the addicted person would be inside the family on which it has been mentioned but if not then it would really be needing up to assess those questions first beforehand.
If it turns out that you would really be having a friend that have some gambling problems then it would be something that normal as a friend on giving out those advises of course
but it wont really be that enough if that certain person wont really be that realizing his mistakes because this is where things turns out to be hard when that someone
doesnt really have the plans on quitting on the first place and this is something that you should really be considering out first whether you should continue on reaching on him or not.

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It is very difficult to fight game addiction. In my opinion, it is necessary to find some alternative for a person - for example, you need to take him out to nature, where there is no access to the Internet, at least for 2-3 weeks. It is also necessary to offer sports activities, trips to cultural events, blogging (if a gamer starts blogging, his addiction will even pay off).

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

Before taking action, we should determine first the overall status of that person.

Is he still in his normal self when being talked with?
Is he responding politely and kindly to your statements?
Is he still acting like the person you know from the start?

Giving harsh advice should only be considered depending on how close you are to that person.

Not all relatives are close to each other and open on any issues to discuss.

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A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling

Even if he lose, he will hard to pass the gambling because he wants to retur to the gambling to recover his losses. Other family members need to get closer to that gambling addict and try to show their good intention to help the addict. If the addict can see that their family member really wants to help the addicts, he will try to open himself and grab their hands. Together, they will try to solve his gambling addiction without hesitant because they are one big family that want to help each other.

If his family members can show their empathy to the addict, he will want to listen what his family members tell and follow it because that gives a good for him. Yes, it needs patience to help the addict to solve his problem but it's worth doing that as the addict will see how strong their bonds and not thinking about what he already did because his family wants to help him to solve his gambling addiction.

Love can many problems and the kind of love we receive from our closed ones forces us to obey what they say.
If a gambler is becoming addicted to gambling then only their loved ones can solve this problem.
Going to rehabs can help but staying with family heals better.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on February 17, 2024, 06:18:44 AM

There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

i also think that forcing someone not to gamble is the same as making them even angrier and will actually fight us. the approach taken should be with understanding and empathy, where we should be able to advise them face to face. if they still resist in the process, give him more advice and don't allow him to gamble more than he can afford. because stones that are dripped with water will also change shape, like people who are addicted, if we continue to give advice and empathize with them, maybe it will help them to soften and reduce the intensity of their gambling.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 22, 2024, 06:14:33 AM

Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.

Yes,it wouldnt really be that still on the sense that it on alerting but its not that bad to make out those kind of advises or telling them about possibilities of addiction. Yes, they might get that
offended whenever you might be saying up those words but at least you had made out some warnings and advises on which they cant blame you out that you didnt tell them specially if the said person is really that
inside the family then it would really be that just right that you should really be in concern with your loved ones situation since we know that gambling addiction could really give out such impact.

For other people who arent close to us then for sure we wont really be showing any care for them but for those who are close to us or loved ones then its normal that we would really be
having a different approach. There are ones who are really that too in concern with other peoples conditions and there are ones who dont really care.
So its up to you in the end of the day on how you would really be telling them up.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 22, 2024, 06:14:33 AM

Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.

I like your point as there's a need to use reverse psychology to get their attention. Since you are living in the same place, you might have the idea of what kind of attitude the person has, you can take the type of approach according to how you believe the person will comply, and by that same concept, depending on the level of addiction, if you feel that the person already in deep place of his addiction and an immediate help to stop him a help from an expert may work after you talk and explain if how you can help and what are the possibilities to move away from this kind of vices.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on February 16, 2024, 01:12:23 PM

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yes that's right, to help or make them realize their gambling addiction there are indeed many ways, including as you said by showing love and affection to them, that's right. but what must be considered is that someone who is addicted to gambling they can be from someone who tends to be more stubborn, therefore they will not easily accept input, advice from others even with their own family. because with them addicted to gambling they only think about gambling and how they can make money to gamble.

We have to be patient with someone who is addicted to gambling, because in reality they (gambling addicts) often disappoint their loved ones and the people around them. And it is not easy for a gambling addict to accept the advice we try to give him. Because what he is looking for is not the truth, but justification for his bad actions in gambling. Sometimes they like to distort the true facts and continue to maintain their bad behavior. So when we are not patient enough to face it, maybe everything will end in dispute.

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If indeed to be able to help them realize I think it can be by letting them until they themselves experience one thing that really slaps their awareness. because I myself advised someone who was so addicted that he dared to use the money of the shop where he worked that he was tired of advising him because it was like that someone who was addicted would not easily accept advice from others, so therefore I was better off letting him as long as it didn't harm me.

Don't let things get worse, if we can prevent it why not do it. Even though gambling addicts often disappoint the people around them, to be aware of their bad behavior and the various losses they experience, they really need the role of someone who continues to motivate them and help them to recover from their addiction. .

It is true that we must be patient in dealing with an addict who has to change his habits, because indeed someone who is addicted must be cured, especially if the addicted to gambling is a relative or brother. It is true that you said it is not easy to accept advice from others for the addict because their thoughts only think about gambling so they might ignore other things that they think are not important But have you ever thought about someone who advises him that will be upset because his advice is not responded well?

The fact is that gambling can harm yourself and others because if you do excessive gambling it can harm a person's life and can lead to bad things it is true that you say they need the role of someone who continues to provide advice and motivation but to be aware of it must be in themselves first. Because in my opinion even though they get encouragement to recover from gambling it is difficult for them to be aware if they do not have awareness themselves.

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Quote from: Solidized on February 22, 2024, 02:22:23 AM

A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling

Even if he lose, he will hard to pass the gambling because he wants to retur to the gambling to recover his losses. Other family members need to get closer to that gambling addict and try to show their good intention to help the addict. If the addict can see that their family member really wants to help the addicts, he will try to open himself and grab their hands. Together, they will try to solve his gambling addiction without hesitant because they are one big family that want to help each other.

If his family members can show their empathy to the addict, he will want to listen what his family members tell and follow it because that gives a good for him. Yes, it needs patience to help the addict to solve his problem but it's worth doing that as the addict will see how strong their bonds and not thinking about what he already did because his family wants to help him to solve his gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

It depends on the level of addiction that a gambler is currently experiencing with.

If you think that a person's addiction is still on the level of being tolerable and manageable, you can consider being harsh as they will still understand and realize what's going on after being pounded with a harsh action towards their gambling addiction.

But if you think that a person is currently in a state that you can consider as critical level and needs immediate help, talk to them softly and nicely as much as you can. Putting harsh action on those people on that critical level state might trigger their eagerness to just continue gambling since they will feel they are left out.

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

What do you think?

The both will play an important role in moulding and shaping the person back again,you use both tactics in this situation because firstly,it's not a thing to joke cause it's pertaining funds and all of that .
When you use the number 1,most times they will just be playing with your effort cause it looking like your pampering them and giving them what they wants so they might not have a u turn.

But paradventure this one doesn't work,so a tendency you use the number 2,by being harsh and brutal to them so as for them to see the efficacy of what they are doing ,that way it will give then an enlightened mind that yeah you mean business with this.
So if it doesn't work the calm way,you apply the reverse and it will surely be effective and of good use.
So I think the two should be put into consideration and action as regarding this issue of gambling addiction.

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A gambling addict always think he would make it through gambling despite his or her loses, the idea is that one day will be their day. so to help such people as a member I think is to draw them closer show them some love so they will have interest to what ever ought to say to them. let them know that it's not as they think, give them a constructive reason why they have to leave it because gambling is a thing of 50/50 chance. many people are in mess today because of gambling

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Quote from: Outhue on January 30, 2024, 05:20:31 AM

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.

What do you think?

I think we should combine both, being soft in words and tough in actions. People are often easily hurt and counteraction when receiving harsh advice or criticism. Instead, we should talk and advise them gently, slowly helping them understand what they do how impact on their family? Being tough in action means being determined not to sponsor money and taking specific actions to cut off his gambling connections from friends or people who invite him to gamble. We must be flexible in how we advise others, especially those who are addicted and disoriented, because their minds are not in the best state to receive opinions from others.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on February 17, 2024, 05:05:46 AM

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Do you think that giving money and talking with gambling addict will be more useful? If someone ill we call doctor and the treatment mostly at least unpleasant but we have to suffer a bit to get result and become healthy. Why do think that such way is ineffective? The same decision for the same problems.

Going hard on a gambling addict will only make things worse. This is where a whole lot of people get it wrong. If you isolate yourself from an addict that loves you they will be hurt more and sometimes become idle which can even make them become more inclined in wrong gambling activities and practices. Yes it is easier to abandon them than help them but if we really love someone that is caught up in addiction we will definitely find a way to help them out of it.
And of course helping them out by talking to them and Expressing the hurt they cause you is difficult but it is worth helping them also out of an Addiction.

I don`t believe in it. I saw several situations with people i knew - love never helped. The only positive result i saw the all time was stable punishment for every mistake, every try of returning to his habits. It isn`t guarantee method too, but it gives more chances for addict to stop it. May be someone else has another stats, but i can say about what i see. There is no place for love when you heal someone. Just do what you have to do.

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Being harsh to a gambling addict will only inflict pain on both the loved ones and the addict. Staying caring and lovely with the addicted person helps to bring back the thoughts of the gambler to feel as though human and try to interact politely with people around him. I understand that we are not the cause of the addicted person's problem. But it's fine to say that gambling addiction takes a long time to heal and not everyone would be able to get hold of being kind for that long without losing it. Whatever method a person, loved one, or friend, wants to apply on his addicted friend, being harsh should be a part of it. They are only humans like us, and when they get better the person can be aggressive in the sense that when he was down bad for help, nobody, not even his close friends and family stood there for him. Instead, they applied a harsh method on him. Those attitudes will register on his brain. And he'll never suffer addiction forever. So, how good you treat them matters, because they'll remember it when their mental health gets better.

Punishing a gambler is ineffective. Like you, I value compassion and understanding. Both the addict and their support network are on a journey. Keep in mind the narrow line between support and enabling. I think balance is key. Being kind doesnt imply ignoring bad behavior. Be there, support without judgment, and encourage accountability.

I understand how difficult it is to stay compassionate. Frustration and overwhelm are normal. But thats when support really matters, I say. Set boundaries to safeguard the addict and their family. Supporting pleasurable gambling within limitations emphasizes addiction's complexity. Not vilifying gambling, but encouraging responsible fun. Our treatment of the needy shows our humanity. Every positive connection gives hope in recovery, which is a marathon.

The marathon continues as far as after recovery, it's a very long one. But the load of stress reduces as the journey gets closer to an end. It's all a collective effort and everyone need to accept their responsibility on such problems. Be it a friend or family, he's to be taken good care of and handled as he was, when his health was in order. That's enough of therapy for the victim, so that he wouldn't be bothered about the pains and troubles he's undergoing. At least the people he most love, are with him and also award him their advice and loving kindness. Such a good live helps to reduce the trouble and help them get used to the problem. Why most people who don't care about the health of their addicted friend do so, is because of the difficulty in interpersonal relationship. They blame and criticize the addict, thereby breaking the friendship bond between them.

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Quote from: retreat on February 16, 2024, 01:54:28 AM

What gambling addicts need is a personal approach that is relaxed and does not corner them. Because if you force a gambling addict to stop gambling in a harsh way, they will fight you and might leave the house. So a personal approach is probably the best way to convince gambling addicts to stop gambling. But if that method doesn't work, maybe the second method can be used.

The second method shouldn't be used because it's useless, you can't force someone to stop doing something unless they are willing to leave it themselves because, by force, they might show that they have left it, but once they have no one around, they will do the thing again because they were forced for it and they didn't do it themselves. So realization is the main thing in this matter, which is why one should try and make them realize that they are doing it the wrong way.

If the gambler doesn't realize that they are getting in trouble because of gambling and that they need to stop or at least reduce their gambling activities, they will never stop no matter what they do. So, sitting with them and explaining things in a proper way with love and affection might work, force won't work in this situation.

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Quote from: piebeyb on February 17, 2024, 07:12:15 AM

What if it was your own house, would you buy a new house only to leave your house and be left with a gambler who could sell your house because you are still related, unless you directly take action as discussed in the thread, yes even if there is It's true that we can get away from him by avoiding him, but he is part of the family, it's best if we can help him get out of his gambling addiction. I'm sure that with gentle methods, gambling addicts can be cured even though it takes a lot of time.

That's even better, I can force him to completely stop gambling, but if he can't accept my rules, I can kick him because my house my rules.

If he use my house as his collateral when he take out a loan, then I won't forgive him entire of my life, the problem isn't the amount, but he's already a bad person and will do anything bad regardless how good you treated him.

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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

There are a lot of options you can do but not this. Forcing a person to quit gambling where they are addicted will never make you achieve the goal of stopping them. There should be the right process to conduct to make them stop without forcing them. The right thing to do is to help them by making them realize the important things they need to do or prioritize instead of spending all their time being addicted to gambling. Forcing them will only make them think to spend more time gambling and make them more addicted than their current situation until they are no longer able to help.

When they are not children, how do we expect force to work on a grown up adult, that is not a good method enough to use in controlling them from gambling addiction, if using force had been effective, then i don't think anyone else will be see being addicted with gambling because as soon as we see them going outrageous in gambling, we will try to apply force and then they will change but things are not going the way we sometimes thought, so as you've also pointed out, we can't apply force on anyone to stop o quit gambling all because of addiction.

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