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Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

Now that you mentioned developing countries, another problem that they should face would be that not everybody has enough money to pay a specialist to help him/her, so I suppose that the problem is harder to solve there because of poverty, not to mention social stigma linked to believing that only insane people need therapy.

In such cases, family and friends should prioritize and save the money to pay for the therapy. The good thing is that a consultation is often cheaper there than in other regions of the world, but tools and attention might be worse too.
Well, though I am not doubting it's possibility, but I've not seen or heard of a stage of gambling addiction that will require therapy before the victim of the addiction will be able to come out free from it, if actually such level of addiction in gambling exists, then it must be very rare.

I've had a couple of friends who were gambling addicts, they were addicts and gambled for years, but at a particular point in their respective lives, each of them began to see reasons why he needs to stop gambling asap, so as to get free from the addiction, one was having issues with his wife on daily basis because of his excessive gambling activity, another at another time started having issues with finance which also later started affecting his presents at his work place, since  he spends money on transportation on daily basis to and from work.

This guys never went do any doctor or specialist, they did partake in any form of therapy to get free from  their gambling addiction, they both got free from it when they both on their respective times, decide to quit, and made of their minds to discipline themselves and stand firm to that decision to never gamble again, atleast, until they are sure they are no longer controlled by gambling, and surly, it did worked out for them..
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As for me - only the second way. It is difficult to make an addict to change his life and if you will be soft with him - he will be only happy that someone cares of him. But if you make him to work hard, to change the life - he willn`t like it, but it will help him to win this battle.
As one more moment - he must understand himself, that there is another life - without gambling. Help him to find a job, give advice - that`s all, until he begin change his life himself.
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Anyway, I can only agree: whenever you have an important problem you can't solve yourself it is usually advisable to look for help, and with addictions is not any different (in fact, seeking help is specially important to avoid derailing if you see the first symthoms). This way you(or your relative) will save much more money in the long term than the price of the consultation, and prevent further problems linked to impulsiveness.
True. Problem here is that many people especially the ones living in 3rd world countries feel that trying to treat mental issues like gambling addiction could affect their reputation in society negatively which is why they avoid going to psychologists.

They end up making things worse for themselves usually due to those silly reasons.

Now that you mentioned developing countries, another problem that they should face would be that not everybody has enough money to pay a specialist to help him/her, so I suppose that the problem is harder to solve there because of poverty, not to mention social stigma linked to believing that only insane people need therapy.

In such cases, family and friends should prioritize and save the money to pay for the therapy. The good thing is that a consultation is often cheaper there than in other regions of the world, but tools and attention might be worse too.
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1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.
This is a good way to ease them into getting professional help, they need the tenderness and that's how they should be treated first so they don't resist the idea of therapy or rehab. But if we really want things to work, love and tender care for them should be combined with a stern talking and an ultimatum in regards to their addiction should also be addressed so they know that you're serious about them changing for the better and that it's the best for both of you, addiction is a disease and I believe that the combination of the addict's determination for change towards a new life and the care of their family will make the fight against that disease a bit more winnable than not having one of them.
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I guess, it’s better to stop them providing money for gambling. If they won’t have money to gamble, then how come they will gamble? In this manner, their addiction might decrease. Moreover you can also show them additional love and ask them to spend time with the family. Addiction won’t be gone in a single day, but if you keep him busy with other work, then definitely the addiction level will decrease and a day will come when the gambling addiction will be gone forever.
This is supposed to be the best type of intervention but the problem is that it's a bad idea to actually do it because cutting off their supply of money would lead them to desperate actions like kleptomania and at the same time make them commit crime just to get by with their addiction, for me, it's the total forcing of them to go to rehab or a forceful intervention that they can't find other way around besides complying with the intervention to get to the rehab, this is one of the times that tough love is actually a permissible thing to do to that person because they're not going to go anywhere if you just let their behavior because of their addiction towards you slide time and time again.
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I guess, it’s better to stop them providing money for gambling. If they won’t have money to gamble, then how come they will gamble? In this manner, their addiction might decrease. Moreover you can also show them additional love and ask them to spend time with the family. Addiction won’t be gone in a single day, but if you keep him busy with other work, then definitely the addiction level will decrease and a day will come when the gambling addiction will be gone forever.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

I don't think being a little harsh is a bad thing to help our family members quit gambling because everyone has a different way of being educated.
Being strict with families who are found to be active gamblers is the perfect attitude, and always give good encouragement so that they can leave their gambling activities because gambling actively for too long will only make them change uncontrollably and will definitely continue to gamble without stopping.
Gambling is not a dangerous activity, but for those who are still young, they are prone to becoming gambling addicts, their school years will be threatened.
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The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.
When it comes to colleagues or friends then i dont really that having that kind of sense of responsibility on trying out to help but as much as i do and possible then i might giving off those kind of advises on which based up with my own understanding of course on which it would really be giving out that positive rather than on negative but as speaking about family members then it would really be just that automatically that you would really be giving your very best on trying to help out- thats your own family and it would really be just that normal that you would really be helping him/her.
We do know ton what gambling addiction could bring and it is really just that normal that you should really be setting out yourself on helping that someone whose really that in need trouble.
Gambling addiction could really give out that negative effect on someones life and as a family then it would be common sense on what you should gonna do.


I am the person to see that if someone needs my help in the process to improve the addiction, then I would do it, whether it be words, advice, or something that can lift their spirits, that is something that we must do so that they can overcome the problems. improve things and obviously do something so that I can generate the best possible in making a difference, the people are addicted, in the majority because they can have a family, they can have a person who hurts them because they are like this, it is something normal, I don't go out to judging them, I know that sometimes facing this problem is not easy, but it is very good to attack it when it should be done, I would have everything to be able to help a person, what you know is that sometimes they need attention from a psychologist and that's not what I am .

A person when he is addicted, sometimes his family needs to help him get out of where he is, it is difficult, but it is not impossible, he has to do it quickly, because the consequences are catastrophic when it is not done quickly.
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The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.
When it comes to colleagues or friends then i dont really that having that kind of sense of responsibility on trying out to help but as much as i do and possible then i might giving off those kind of advises on which based up with my own understanding of course on which it would really be giving out that positive rather than on negative but as speaking about family members then it would really be just that automatically that you would really be giving your very best on trying to help out- thats your own family and it would really be just that normal that you would really be helping him/her.
We do know ton what gambling addiction could bring and it is really just that normal that you should really be setting out yourself on helping that someone whose really that in need trouble.
Gambling addiction could really give out that negative effect on someones life and as a family then it would be common sense on what you should gonna do.
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The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

if the person is a family member, then, it means, you already know how to approach the person. but of course, you still need to give him privacy and just involve with his life if you think he is ready to open up himself and has the signs that he needs help. because you will see it if he is struggling to help himself but there is the will to change. but if he is in denial and seems angry to the world, i guess, pause your approach and just wait for the right time. because you will be the bad person in the scenario if you insist your help and he doesn't want it yet.

The best form of support for an addict is to talk them out of it, but in doing so, you must avoid getting overly involved to the point that it becomes an immersive imposition on them because if you allow it to downgrade to that stage, it becomes highly risky for you as family members to lose their trust of confidentiality which is a vital tool to helping them get out of the huck of addictions.
To avoid such occurrences one needs to hold every in high esteem and also make sure to draw them closer instead of pushing them away which will result in a more negative future for the addicts, family is file support and at that stage, the individual needs all the support they can get.

that's why give him space and just wait for the appropriate time to enter his life. as a family member, you will know the signs that he needs help from other people. if you see that he is not yet ready, better not be so aggressive because he will just shy away from potential help.
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The best form of support for an addict is to talk them out of it, but in doing so, you must avoid getting overly involved to the point that it becomes an immersive imposition on them because if you allow it to downgrade to that stage, it becomes highly risky for you as family members to lose their trust of confidentiality which is a vital tool to helping them get out of the huck of addictions.
To avoid such occurrences one needs to hold every in high esteem and also make sure to draw them closer instead of pushing them away which will result in a more negative future for the addicts, family is file support and at that stage, the individual needs all the support they can get.
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The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.

We need to make ourse available in cases where our fiends or brothers needed our help and shoulders to lean on, some couldn't afford doing this on their own without other's influence in their decision, this is not us being totally dependent for them to use us the way they want  because we are not responsible for their actions, we are only committed to helping them on our own way as we could best engage doing.
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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

This one will not end well if you use this approach. A gambler is supposed to be 18+ which means you are going to be talking to an adult and I don't think you have the right to speak to an adult harshly, not even your own brother you can treat like that, he might not entertain it the way you view it and you are the one that see them as addicted person, they don't see addiction as you see them.

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Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

If money join me and that person together, I will make sure the first thing I do is to cut anything that supply him money so he doesn't get access to money to gamble, no Bankroll no gambling for him. I can also talk to the person calmly in the best way he can understand that he is not doing well in life and I will back it up with evidence. If the person is a good thinker, he will come to his senses and take correction and will even appreciate your support for trying to leave gambling.
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gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.
Yes, you're right it's not easy to get rid of that addiction and others efforts can't do much if the individual isn't willing to leave the addiction himself. It's ones own will power that can stop reduce the intensity of this addiction but sometimes a good advice is very needed to awaken someone's will power and that's why I think it's better to peacefully tell such addicts that how dangerous this addiction is and how much harm it can provide.

In the end it's someone's own will power that can help that person to get rid of the addiction. Getting rid of gambling addiction isn't a child's play because it requires a lot of effort and hard work. The addicts can get rid of it if they develop their own will power and self discipline otherwise it's not easy at all.
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The thing is that, having an addict as a family member doesn't mean that you can hup into their private life and sometimes it takes an intense pressure before I get involved in other people affairs, this is because gambling addiction is a strong hold and to get out of it requeirs alot from the individual involved who is the victim, because it is his willingness that will grant him the will power to beat the addictions.

For that we have to wait for them to make of their mind to be willing to over come they addictions because that is the only way to get out of that problem at some points.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
At the very end it still boils down to the decision of the person with the addiction, because I have seen cases where the gambler in questions get all the above therapy but at the very end of everything he still succumbed to the habit and this is because he lacks the very determination to actually fight against the addicted habits of his and this is very common among many humans but still same I think the both method 1&2 are effective but that's if the person in question too works hard.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

This method may work if the addict is willing to be helped in the first place.

Majority of these addicts are also individuals who have lost their cause but this may be regained by constant reassurance and support from their immediate family members. If these people believe that the addict can change, then the latter may be more inclined to change in the process.

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2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

The result can go either way with this kind of method.

Naturally, addicts use their addiction as an escape to reality. With this on mind, it is essential to first know on why they are addicted in the first place. If they are addicted to gambling due to the sake of making a profit, then this method MAY work. But if the addict uses gambling as a way to escape reality, then this method may not work as effectively.

CONCLUSION:

At the end of the day, there is no iron-rule when it comes to knowing which method to use as this can vary depending on the reason on why these gamblers are addicted to it in the first place.

Understanding them and knowing their situation are key factors into knowing on how you approach them so you could employ methods that can be effective and helpful at the same time.
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?

You have already mentioned 2 ways to try them out and obviously number 1 would be the first preference for anybody.
If the person recovers from the addiction then well and good and otherwise we can try out the 2nd option.
There's no harm in doing anything to recover your close one from gambling addiction.
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A combination of 1 and 2 is best in my opinion.

First of all, you can't cure someone from any addiction as long as the person doesn't believe they have a problem. They have to realize what they are doing is wrong and self-destructive before they can receive help. I would introduce a professional into the mix. Someone who knows how to treat gambling addiction and has perfected their methods to cure it. The person should be around family and people that love them. Their days should be filled with work and responsibilities that doesn't give them too much time to think about gambling. Normal hobbies and spending your past-time in a quality way is also essential for successful recovery. 

In the end, it's all about how strong the person is mentally. Gambling addiction is nothing compared to the addictions and sicknesses in this world. If they realize how lucky they are to have friends and family who wish only the best for them, they will do everything necessary to recover. If not...
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As a member of a family and there is a gambling addict within, which method do you think it's the best to rip off the addict from your family member?

1. Talk to them and don't leave their side for too long, show them some love and make sure they don't have anything to do with gambling ever again, be soft and gentle with them.

2. Be harsh about it, force them to quit, let them know that gambling isn't this safe, bounce on them all the time because you love them, don't go any soft on them, because been soft won't make them see reasons why it's bad to be a gambling addict.

Which do you think it's best? Some people do think that been soft and gentle will be more effective and some people think that been harder on them is the real love here, they need to make them stop by force.
 
What do you think?
The first solution, if you plan to be by side all the time with a gambling addict, keep in mind that it's only helpful if you have a lot of time and can dedicate the whole day to being with them. However, if you stay on their side for too long, it might irritate them.

The second solution may seem harsh, but sometimes it's more effective to show someone that there are consequences for their gambling behavior. Being firm and setting boundaries can be more impactful than trying to persuade them with kind words, as they may simply ignore you.
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