Topic: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them - page 12. (Read 2426 times)

First of all, rip off is not the right term to use because, I think you wanted to say how to get rid of an addict from your family. But I think get rid of is not the best case, how to help an addict is a better one.

Being harsh will only make that person feel sad and they'll only try to isolate, that will probably lead to suicide or a state of hopelessness but being very kind is not an option too because they won't be able to feel the responsibility on their shoulders and will most likely ignore what you say. You have to be both, kind and harsh, you have to decide the moment when it's better to act kind and when it's better to be harsh. An addict person should feel support and care from you but should also feel the pressure that something is going wrong in their life and they need to fix it ASAP and you are here to supper them.

Which method will be applied will depend on the situation of the addicted person. No. 2 would not be appropriate to apply as strict with gamblers may make them worse. Not all situations are safe for them if they are highly addicted. They should be well understood that it is not possible to do anything by force. It is better to treat them like a family and understand them about good and bad. It is not right to force anything.

It really depends on addicted person on how they cooperate since if they are in level where they are still controllable then provably they would listen to advice given to them.
But if they are resistant already maybe this approach would never be effective and we could try those methods listed or suggested by people since there's one of those should work since no people would stay addicted if they are properly guided or they see that someone is concern on their welfare.

But any of those will never work since the level of addiction is so high then I guess its time to seek professional help since for sure they have solid solution to help people to get aide on gambling addiction what they are experiencing.

          -   Of course, obviously, the one I choose is no. 1. If it's possible not to be harsh, that's what we should do, and besides, that person is still part of the family. The fact that his own family shows him love can be a tool for him to change; you know what that means.

As they say, good overcomes evil. If he has done something bad for himself, let's still show him a reminder of the love he will feel for the family, of course, when he sees that he will feel of self-shame or realization.

You have answered your question yourself, in other words it depends on the addicted person. If you know him personally, you know which method you should use to help him. Some people may use both to know which one will give more effects so I think there is no best between these 2 methods because soft method may work for some people but gentle method may work for some others.

The only solution here is constant persuasion because you cannot help someone that does not see the need for help. Try to make them see reasons why they should be helped.

 Some addictions makes one feel so excited and satisfied that they begin to see whatever they are addicted to as the only way. Any addicted gambler who is yet to realise that he is in trouble already will be too difficult to be helped because whatever solution you bring might not be followed duely by the gambler, you need the addicted gambler's cooperation for any help you intend to render to work.

Using a very harsh tone will not yield results, rather it would make them become even more secretive about their activities. If they won't change after a calm persuasion done out of love, I will leave them with the option of learning from their own mistakes themselves. Experience they say is the best teacher.

The second option should be kept aside as you can't force someone to do something, even if you manage to do that and if they do it because you are forcing them, they won't leave it and get out of the addiction because they will find a way to do that thing in your absence, so it isn't a permanent solution.

So I would say the best way is to talk to them with love and affection, let them know in calmness that gambling isn't good for them and they need to take a break and get out of the addiction as it will only ruin their life and future. I'm pretty sure that a normal person would understand if they were told something out of love instead of forcing something on them. So, I believe the first method will be the most effective one in this case.

Well first of all, an addict must admit that they have a problem. A lot of them are in denial, because they think it is under control and they can manage it by themselves.

You can only step into a supportive role, if you understand what you are dealing with. Some people have other issues that needs to be dealt with first, before the gambling addiction can be tackled.

A lot of people do not have the skills and the knowledge to support people with gambling problems, so they must equipt themselves first, before they step into that role. ( You might be part of the problem or your misguided attempts might make it worst)

Seek proffesional help, if you think that you are too emotionally involved or not equipt to help someone. There are people out there that are trained to handle people like this.

Good luck, with whatever path you decide to take.

it can be effective depending on how the involved will response because even how good or better
 we do to help yet its those addicted gamblers choice to make it happen so yeah it is always depending on them .
if they finally get to understand what is happening then that is the time to help because if not all our effort
will be nothing for them.

For me, it's a combination of both soft and hard way is what's going to make things work for that family member, you can't really force them all the way to recovery because when something is forced into someone, it will always be met with some resistance and on the other hand, being too soft would make it seem that what you're doing for them isn't serious and that they can just ignore you. Think of helping an addict relative like you're holding someone's hand, it should be gentle yet firm so basically you tell them with a strict voice that you are going to give them a limit and that if they will reach that, they'll have to consider rehabilitation and that they should change for the better, tell them how much it breaks your heart that they're like this and that they can't stand you being like this, play on their emotions, if they still have any then they'll be able to tap on to that and use that as an inspiration for change, giving them support on their rehab is going to be a big thing.

There's enough money alright, they just don't want to invest in it because they've got other things to do, remember that US could easily solve their homeless crisis with a small amount of funds from their military spending but they don't do it because there's no profit that they can get out of solving homelessness and it's the same thing with mental health, what would an influential and developing country can do with mentally clarified and healthy people anyway? They can just use that would be money for solving mental health crisis to fund their trading and increase their GDP. I wouldn't agree that there's a stigma in mental health anymore maybe back then there is but with the prevalence of suicide and a lot of mental health awareness I don't think that there's going to be a lot of people that are stigmatizing when it comes to mental health. Therapy is a helpful thing especially for mental traumas and damages, if applied correctly that person is going to be going back to what society perceives as normal and at the same time make it so that person that was healed through therapy wouldn't be of harm to others and themselves.

True, since I believe that treating a gambler addict like a family member as suggested by @2Pizza410000BTC would set them off, making them feel as though they are being attacked, criticized, or humiliated, which will make them more resistant to changing their ways. Naturally, as a family member, I agree with you that it is only normal for us to support a loved one who is battling a gambling addiction. Ultimately, though, the gambling-addicted family member must take responsibility for managing their addiction. In other words, we have a big part to play in helping the addict get well. For example, we can offer them emotional support and motivate them to make changes that will benefit them personally. Let's sometimes put aside our own feelings and actions to avoid making snap judgments or saying hurtful things that could exacerbate their behavior. Therefore, it is preferable that we should be cautious and deliberate before taking action.

IMO regardless of what you choose both can be effective. The point is, your goal is to keep this family member away from gambling so if it means you have to be harsh because that's more effective then so be it. Anyway, for me I prefer the number one, because gambling is not a sin. It's just that, this family member needs to learn his lesson to realize that what he's doing is not healthy anymore for himself and for his family. He needs support and guidance, someone that can understand the situation and will encourage him to change.

There are people who dont really like on being that forcibly having that type of approach on which it cant really be able to resolve out such possible addiction whether its outside or inside the family members on which it would really be just that depending whether on how you would really be able to assess and would be able to handle such situation or condition.
If one of the family members is suffering on such addiction then it would really be just that normal that you would really be having that kind of sense of responsibility on helping them out.
We do know the cons and problems that gambling addiction could cause into someones personal life and since its inside the family then it would affect the family as a whole.

Getting him a job only might not help him/her from being an addict. Although the job can keep him busy, thereby making him to have less time for gamble. I think talking to him about his addicted problem can go a long way to help him out.

I can't probably tell, i'm not an expert/professional person to advise something like that, especially for a gambling "addict" where he is already manipulated by the gambling and money.

If this is a person is a close of mine, probably, a short talk of what he can loss "more" and possible scenarios that will happen once he still won't stop, like providing him the news related to being gambling addict for them to realize what will be his future.

Addiction is something that Currently has many treatments, of course things are always going to be in favor of those who have one treatment, the things that can be achieved are many, a worse example in a thread here in the forum is He talks a lot about how to help them, because basically the treatments in some countries are quite Expensive , and that's true , it's a fact, for example where I live, a consultation with a psychologist is not that Expensive , it must be because there are so many, kla Competneic makes the demand because it is low and they are people who offer some free treatments, cases where they go for the First time People and see them, after that or if they charge them later, the important thing is to do Something , I have said Several times here in the forum things are different , because I think there are many who are Perhaps going through that bad moment , so one of the things they should avoid is that they follow Advice like staying Stuck or Something like that , as long as we can Help many Here, because I Consider it much better.

In another order of ideas , I have talked about a treatment that is good for those who cannot be controlled, it is with sleep cures, but nevertheless it is said that this is for patients who are too strong , who become aggressive or something So, once these things Are the ones that should be Avoided, we have to see all these possibilities, because the important thing is that we have many things to be able to avoid it, and I think one of the easiest ways is with control of our money. If there is good control of our budget, of our money, things will be done much better, and that is what is sought, for me the people who seek help are because they want to be cured, and this is something I Admire , not everyone has that mindset of thinking and accepting things, that's why I say that person Should be valued like that.

The most important thing is for the addict to understand that he is actually one. The second is to understand that there is no "control" and that things are going to be worse with time even if the addiction is not causing a problem here and now. The way you can communicate this to the person makes a lot of difference and their way of understanding a critic will mark their ability to react correctly.

For someone to being a gambling addict is a normal thing and we don't have to keep accusing the person or disrespecting them because of gambling. Sometimes we can keep asking questions of how far the person had been betting and what's there plan in the future.
We can always laugh and spend frequent time with the person. The love only can make the person comes closer and start gisting with us.
It's all about time and with friendship, helping the person gamble healthy without too thinking of what to bet on again.

That's clear, in my opinion what is called a family is that there is a bond of helping each other, when one family member has a problem then the other family members have to help to overcome the problem that occurs to one of the other members. That's true, even if a family helps, it won't be easy if the main perpetrator himself doesn't have the awareness that what he is doing is wrong, also in my opinion when someone is addicted they will most likely only think about gambling and tend not to care about other things.

I don't understand what you said about turning your back on someone who is my family.
However, if one of my own family members is addicted then I will also warn him, advise as best I can, but as I said before, if the main perpetrator doesn't change at all like my friend, then what I will do is leave it to him. realized for himself that what he did was wrong. because in my opinion advising people who won't change is just a waste of time.

To get rid of a gambling addict I have to be strict first because the gambling addict needs to understand that I am very strict about gambling. Then he should be treated politely and gently and gradually convince him that gambling is very bad and gambling should be used only for entertainment. He needs to be convinced in such a way that he gradually understands and gives up gambling. I think if a gambling addict can be properly explained in this way then surely he will get rid of gambling addiction.