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October 08, 2024, 04:29:52 PM
#72
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

We do not have control when gambling and we need to realize this so that we do not hope too much and our hearts gets broken when how we thought the way the game was going to play out does not happen. The house have more control than we. We can only have control on few types of games that gives us the control like poker games because when you are good at playing poker, you can determine how the games turn out but for games that are based on luck like casino games, you can never be in control regardless of how you think you have figured out a strategy to use in winning. Unless when there is a glitch in the system and it favours you although it would not last long before it gets discovered and corrected. In sport betting, you might have some little control but still you need luck to win.
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October 08, 2024, 04:11:58 PM
#71
lol, op is very right sometimes we are too crazy doing useless things when we start betting, starting from crazy and stupid expressions as if we can determine the final result, but everything has been randomized by the casino system, but I think that is the art of betting and that is what makes us addicted
Addiction is what makes a gambler have the illusion that he can control the outcome of his bet by coming up with some funny practices which will end up disappointing him. It might work at first, but later it will not. Gambling is based on lucky and if you are not on your lucky moment, whatever you do will not change the outcome of the game. Initially when I started gambling, I thought all those stuff works but when I lost big, I refrain from such illusions.
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October 08, 2024, 04:04:45 PM
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Just like you said it's really an illusion,  gambling addiction can make you do unreasonable things... it's not possible to be in control of gambling outcomes, there are no ways to tap your screen or tilt your mobile phone to alter the outcome of the game..if you ever find yourself in this position just know that you are losing yourself gradually and if you don't recover from that mental trap you are going to put yourself in a lot of trouble..you can't be in control that's the simple truth just stake responsibly and enjoy the game so you don't become a mindless addict.

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October 08, 2024, 04:01:23 PM
#69
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
It’s always certain 99% of gamblers trust the process and that’s normal personally when I started gambling I had this thought I can win every game unknowingly gambling is not for the weak. I will not consider a confident gambler as a controversial gambler, there’s no doubt we can win always likewise lose it’s just unpredictable but, let’s not allow the emotions get to our mental health whereby we feel in charge. Dice game is always like that and it has favored a lot of people who practice daily, strategy is needed for most games I think that’s where the control comes from.
Its just a human feeling and the guts works so i don't see anything wrong in it. Being confident is like having a strong will and most times it works for us. The only mistake many gamblers do is that they let the confidence take full control of them. It make them take decisions in gambling believing that they are in the right position to always win but get disappointed when they don't win. No one is immune to lose. We all will lose and win in gambling so if we win then we are most likely lucky in that bet and when we lose its unfortunate that we did.
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October 08, 2024, 03:55:06 PM
#68
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
Even gamblers that deep down know the reason they are losing is simply because of their luck may eventually fall into that kind of magical thinking, and this is because as humans, it can be very difficult to accept that there are things that are outside our control and there is nothing we can do to change them, and this is even more true today than what it was on the past, as now humans as a species are so powerful, it can be difficult to imagine something that cannot be influenced by us.
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October 08, 2024, 03:36:38 PM
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It’s always certain 99% of gamblers trust the process and that’s normal personally when I started gambling I had this thought I can win every game unknowingly gambling is not for the weak. I will not consider a confident gambler as a controversial gambler, there’s no doubt we can win always likewise lose it’s just unpredictable but, let’s not allow the emotions get to our mental health whereby we feel in charge. Dice game is always like that and it has favored a lot of people who practice daily, strategy is needed for most games I think that’s where the control comes from.

Gambling results works differently, and everyone who knows this, tend to fix up a personal strategy that'll improve their performance and outcomes. Yet, it's not quite effective if the methods are centered on controls, especially on games like dice. However, the area gamblers get things wrong, is when they try to master a means of enhancing winnings on luck based games.

Such endeavors puts players under a terrible mood or feelings during losing streaks, and they'll want to coin out new beneficial forms of wagering money, instead of watching their expenses, and controlling themselves.
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October 08, 2024, 03:31:02 PM
#66
lol, op is very right sometimes we are too crazy doing useless things when we start betting, starting from crazy and stupid expressions as if we can determine the final result, but everything has been randomized by the casino system, but I think that is the art of betting and that is what makes us addicted
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October 08, 2024, 03:24:03 PM
#65
It is worth pointing out, that illusion of control usually appears when the gambler is having a winning spree and good luck in on his side, to the point they are able to withdraw a significant amount of money before continuing to gamble for the rest of their session.As we know, the illusion will sooner or later be broken by the laws of chances kicking in and making the gambler to start losing money at a very fast pace, leading to losses.
I hate to admit that I used to have this kind of delusion in the past when I am experiencing a winning streak, what comes along with it is that I get so cocky that I'd increase my bet and be more reckless which would usually end on me quickly losing my balance and trying to chase the loses back. luckily it was all in the past and I realised how stupid I was with that kind of mindset.

It is pretty much a common mindset among new gamblers, I think. That is probably why newbies and casuals are specially profitable for casinos, because of the lack of experience and self-control.
And it is nothing to be ashamed of, I believe, most of gamblers have passed through such stage in their journey, the important thing to do is straightening one's path and learn how to manage bankroll properly, instead of getting fooled by the illusion of making money off gambling in the long term.

I have myself passed through such stage, and I can say I have overcome the urges to chase after whatever I have thrown into casinos.
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October 08, 2024, 03:14:14 PM
#64
It is worth pointing out, that illusion of control usually appears when the gambler is having a winning spree and good luck in on his side, to the point they are able to withdraw a significant amount of money before continuing to gamble for the rest of their session.As we know, the illusion will sooner or later be broken by the laws of chances kicking in and making the gambler to start losing money at a very fast pace, leading to losses.
I hate to admit that I used to have this kind of delusion in the past when I am experiencing a winning streak, what comes along with it is that I get so cocky that I'd increase my bet and be more reckless which would usually end on me quickly losing my balance and trying to chase the loses back. luckily it was all in the past and I realised how stupid I was with that kind of mindset.
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October 08, 2024, 02:58:12 PM
#63
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

The illusion of control does exist and yes, they do some ways by considering it as a skill that they have. But unfortunately, they also do not always win with the way they think is a control that they apply in gambling. There are so many gambling games and for me, all of these games basically  require luck to be able to win, because if you think you can win with skill and control then you should be able to get rich from gambling, but in reality more gamblers experience defeat and worse makes their social life bad too.
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October 08, 2024, 01:02:32 PM
#62
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I used to know a croupier and he told me that they were taught special methods of shuffling the cards to maximize the probability of a good deal for the casino. He also said that they were trained to throw the ball into the right sector on roulette. I do not know if this is all true, but I admit that this is possible in some land-based casinos. By the way, many croupiers are forbidden to gamble in casinos where they work. Maybe they really have more skills than the average gambler so for them control is not an illusion? And if so, that experience can be passed on to someone else.
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October 08, 2024, 12:39:48 PM
#61
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
It’s always certain 99% of gamblers trust the process and that’s normal personally when I started gambling I had this thought I can win every game unknowingly gambling is not for the weak. I will not consider a confident gambler as a controversial gambler, there’s no doubt we can win always likewise lose it’s just unpredictable but, let’s not allow the emotions get to our mental health whereby we feel in charge. Dice game is always like that and it has favored a lot of people who practice daily, strategy is needed for most games I think that’s where the control comes from.
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October 08, 2024, 12:04:54 PM
#60
Maybe he is too confident that he can do the same thing on every roll of the dice, or on the game of Roulette Spin to get the right number or the planned win.
It's funny enough when someone can control it, even though it only depends on luck, because anyone who does a dice roll or a game that will be entirely based on luck will not be able to control their roll.

Getting a win at the beginning does not mean that you will continue to be lucky,
but there will be several series of advantages and disadvantages that will arise together.

Maybe someone who feels that they can control their luck, it is like the God of gambling that appears a lot in movies,
with the power of his mind, then the numbers will change as desired.
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October 08, 2024, 11:47:37 AM
#59
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

Its funny you know, how some gamblers think they can actually beat the algorithm used in programming gambling’s random results generation. They all still arrive at the same end which is regret to have not conceived the thought in the first place. I have friends who actually thought they can master pattern in aviator game after lossing for a while all in the name of mastering the algorithm, they still ending up losing more even after they thought they have known it all. Gambling isn’t just like every other random game, if it was that easy I believe many person would have amounted millionaires by just gambling. With the example you gave it’s clear to everyone how gambling operate, the dice is indeed the best explanation to how gambling works.
This is familiar about me. I had a comrade who for a long time and stubbornly tried to play the dice according to the Martingale system. It took a lot of time to understand that the system is good only at short distances and in general it was not viable. If this scheme would have been casino for a long time. If it worked, but not everyone wants to understand this.

To be honest, gambling  entirely depends on luck, so trying to study the algorithm is a waist of time. Because at the end it will all come to realization that the system cannot be learnt or studied. If you’re lucky it might seem as though you have cracked a code but it's all luck. And I believe  that's the major reason some persons go ahead to try to study the game by gambling more. As a gambler the best advice i can give is that, bettors should be contented with what ever the result turns out to be, and the easiest way to do that is by gambling with what you can afford to lose, usually  with small stakes.
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October 08, 2024, 11:39:27 AM
#58
There is no such thing as being in control, you can only apply calculations and strategies which doesn't work at the long run, there are no ways to control what has already being programmed. Most people think because they did something at a certain time that worked out in gambling believe that it's a pattern they can repeatedly do to make more profit. Gambling especially casinos is all about how lucky you are and meeting the right timing don't be deceived by irrational ideas that don't work, you must realize that this is real life and not a fiction.
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October 08, 2024, 10:49:00 AM
#57
I have a friend that thinks that if he taps his phone in a certain way when he's playing aviator games the plane will continue to fly higher till he is ready to cash out, it makes no sense logically but due to how obsessed he is with gambling he doesn't know how stupid it is. You can't be in control over luck based games, you must realize that these games involve no skill or patterns everything is programmed in favour of the house, but whenever you get lucky don't get carried away thinking that you have something you do that makes you win, that's a delusional thought.
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October 08, 2024, 09:04:27 AM
#56
Luck-based games like dice are usually the type of games where you don't have control of the outcome as it's purely based on your luck but still it's fun if things are going into your favor and continue winning.

When you think you are in control, or that the results you are getting in a game of chance like craps are due to what you are doing, you are not really in control at all. It happens not only in luck games, but also in games of skill, and not only in gambling. There are many sportsmen who make gestures thinking that they bring them luck. I guess we humans find it hard to detach ourselves from the belief in the supernatural.

If we make a rational and scientific analysis, there is no control.
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October 08, 2024, 08:49:22 AM
#55
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved.
It depends on what type of game you are playing on, that's why there are usually two categories for gambling games such as luck-based and skill-based. Skill based games are the type of game where you can determine the outcome of the game like poker, whereas you may have a bad card but you can fold to limit loses or continue playing by tricking other player that have a good card and turn it into a win.
Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
Luck-based games like dice are usually the type of games where you don't have control of the outcome as it's purely based on your luck but still it's fun if things are going into your favor and continue winning.
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October 08, 2024, 06:29:51 AM
#54
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
Well I will still say that skills also involved because in games there's is always experience, and experience is what turns out to be skills. In gaming there is always a knowledge behind it and If that knowledge is undermine or didn't follow up how it works it would also ends up losing big time even though we say is chance based game then we can't do away with the experience each players has from their regularly involvement in playing any of these games be it dice or slot, roulette or sports betting.
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October 08, 2024, 06:26:01 AM
#53
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I agree with that. Often, it happens that I hit 99 twice, and I think the next bet is safe. I can go all in, and then the next bet can come another 99 as well. It's possible to hit multiple 1.01x in a row, and it's not impossible. But once we get a couple of low payouts in a row, we think the next bet will be safe, and we can place a big amount now. But we end up getting another red.

Sometimes, this confidence works as well. But most of the time, we end up losing our entire balance. I usually love to play Mines and Dice with low payouts, but as we know, it's the dangerous payout. Too easy to get multiple reds in a row which can drain entire wallet.
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