Topic: Illusion of control - page 7. (Read 1366 times)

If you check on Youtube and google with a dice strategy you will see many people claiming the same thing, that they have found out a strategy that works and they maybe right for a short time, enough time to post a video on Youtube claiming their winnings there. There is only one problem, over the long run this is an illusion as it will not work over the long term. I tried some of the so called strategies and they eat my money so fast. Only one strategy works, 98% win chance which serves for wagering to increase VIP levels and this is a losing strategy over the long run, it only works for increasing your VIP ranks.

Yes, that's what casinos try to use in their advantage.

They offer things like copying the strategy of "experts" or make you think that you are closer to win than what really is the actual odd of it.

It's all an illusion as OP described, it's all in the mind of the gambler, who usually gets addicted with this fantasy and then loses all their money to it.

Gambling can be fun, but you need to be in control of it, otherwise it becomes in control of you.

The illusion of control has a sunk deep into the mindset of individuals such that when they are involved in certain games like the dice and they are getting a good outcome they then feel they are the one's controlling their win which us quite unusual to think of, but then having such mindset it's also great as your setting a pace for positivity in the game which will amounts to a win in general but mind you this illusion of control over games it's bent on lucks and a little strategies of how you throw the dice. But thinking you have control over your bets it's impossible because the scenario of throwing of dice it's totally different from betting.

Sometimes such illusions really do give us the victory we expect. But for me such things are just luck because if we talk about this about a game based on luck, it is certainly not the impetus of the illusion.
Like when playing slot games, sometimes we use the spin method 2x 10x and so on. For some gamblers, such things can provide victory but in fact such illusions do not guarantee victory.
But such illusions seem to have become a habit that cannot be removed.

there is always a chance that makes betting difficult to predict.
you always have to take this possibility into account until the end of the game.
I believe that every strategy must always take this aspect into account. That's why I'm one of those who always suggests cashout instead of waiting for the result until the end

I have to says this is similar just like illusion in gambling because people feel they have a power to influence the results of every rolls when playing dice so that's why confidently some people always look for the strategies to win from playing dice such as using martingale strategy or using bots because people thought with using different strategies during playing dice they can predict and control the outcome of every rolls but in fact playing dice is only rely on our luck so there was no special skill which can boosted your luck or increase the winning chances and any strategies will not working well to playing this game because it is impossible to beat the algorithm of gambling for online casinos

It's really stupid if someone think throwing softer or harder would affect the outcome, similar like believing in superstition, patience etc.

They're worse compared to someone who use martingale strategy etc which they've calculated there's a possibility their strategy will beat the house edge. At least you have a proof or something that can prove if you're not wrong, however believing in something that didn't exist is like an idiot.

That is normal because they think that they will wins in the next rounds. Their brain learns the pattern and will say to themselves that the next rounds will be the same pattern so they can place bigger money to win. But the reality is not the same as they think because gambling is difficult to predicts especially for gambling games based on the luck. They should not trying to do that if they don't want to lose their money because that can makes them curious with the results.

Game of luck, indeed there will be no skill whatsoever to be able to truly control the results and also be able to obtain much more certain results in all types of games of luck, any method or strategy only makes someone more confident not to increase the chances of winning more guaranteed.
Like the example mentioned by OP saying about playing dice and throwing dice softer or harder in order to get satisfactory results and increase the chances of winning, actually this is just suggestion and also way for someone to be braver to play and risk money, believe that all types of games like this dpriove special way or trick that can be done by gamblers to be able to achieve victory.

But even more so here in online gambling we will all have much more difficulty because everything runs according to the existing system, every game we only see it on the screen and cannot see directly or play directly so that all suggestions like that will never be able to apply here.
This is why now I really prioritize sports betting over luck-based games, but everyone has their own choices, they have certain approaches and also beliefs about the way or strategy of playing that they rely on.

I totally agree with the illusion word. After a long losing streak we have the illusion that things will change and a winning streak will come, but as you mention, it is just an illusion because the bad streaks can be really long. It is hard to understand that we must change our betting method or do something different because if we stay on the same track the outcome will not change.

You mentioned dice as a good example, in the past i had a good method to win on dice, but when i tried my method with another account (the site allowed multiple accounts), it didn't work at all and i only got on a deep hole with a crazy losing streak.

Anyone who believes this has no understanding of anything. If they were on the other side, the side that owns a casino, or at least invests in casino bankrolls, they would start to see things differently.

The person who rolls the dice in a certain way and believes that it brings him luck is because at some point he happened to win by doing so, and when that doesn't happen he minimises it or tends to think that it is an exception. But the casino owner knows that he wins money because there is no control on the part of the player that allows him to beat the house, no matter what he does.

This phenomenon leads to superstitions and bizarre rituals. Gamblers, I think, purposefully loses their mind when something goes wrong. For example if they have a superstition that they will win every time they are wearing a specific watch the moment they lose this watch they will immediately think that they are going to lose and usually that is what happens because they unconsciously not perform. They are not motivated anymore and not making the right decisions. This usually applies to card games not luck based games. But the more the results coincides with their beliefs the more they will believe it no matter how unrealistic it is.

Indeed, most gamblers do under the illusion of freedom. The ways the brain convinces itself to handle randomness are amazing. This is particularly so after repeated exposure. This is a well-known effect of psychology and often leads to gambling behavior. One of the underlying reasons why people keep betting even if they're losing is that belief in "it's different this time," or "I have a pattern." It was almost like a sort of hallucination. Belief in personal power obscures the fact that the game is random-not that the consequences are uncontrollable.

This can be seen not only with chests. But also in games like roulette, slot machines or card games. When in fact everything depends on the algorithm as chance. Just like in sports betting, people convince themselves that in-depth knowledge of a team will lead to victory. But in unexpected situations it can easily lead to losses.

This illusion frequently fosters dissatisfaction and risky behavior. Since people continue the run after losses Thinking they can "outrun" the system, it is very important to remember this and remember that although luck plays a role, But they can neither predict nor influence the experimental experience. Find them out of order.


You're to the point! It's really interesting. Where people can convince themselves that they have “coded” or mastered algorithms for games like Aviator, slots, or other forms of gambling. But in the end It was just a coincidence. And it is not something that can be overcome or surpassed by genius. No matter how long you spend trying to figure it out. There is always interest in the room.

What's interesting is how gamblers use human artificial intelligence to keep people playing. Concepts like the "near miss" effect and different prizes make players feel like they are very close to winning and encourage them to keep trying it tricks the mind into thinking “Try one more time and I'll get it,” even if the end result is a little random.

Gambling gives sufficient "wins" to keep anyone interested in the business but loses on time in the process. This is why it is so hazardous for those who believe they can find a pattern or beat the system. If it were as easy as we say, there would be more millionaires!

If we are talking about casino games with absolute randomness, then of course there is no control. The illusion can only arise within the Martingale strategy. For example, when you have lost 19 times and it seems to you that you should be lucky the 20th time. But the same losing result can fall out unusually long. Do you think that roulette cannot fall out on black 40 times? This is quite possible. The peculiarity of Martingale is that luck can also accompany you unusually long. This attracts many players and they think that they have found a method that will allow them to get rich. But the casino has limits on the maximum win.

Its funny you know, how some gamblers think they can actually beat the algorithm used in programming gambling’s random results generation. They all still arrive at the same end which is regret to have not conceived the thought in the first place. I have friends who actually thought they can master pattern in aviator game after lossing for a while all in the name of mastering the algorithm, they still ending up losing more even after they thought they have known it all. Gambling isn’t just like every other random game, if it was that easy I believe many person would have amounted millionaires by just gambling. With the example you gave it’s clear to everyone how gambling operate, the dice is indeed the best explanation to how gambling works.

When we say the number that should come out and what happens is the number we thought before, I think it's just luck, maybe it will work in one or two tries but in the future it is very rare for our predictions to always be right, with a game that depends on luck there is no skill that will ensure you can win. And I think with a game that does depend on luck it indicates that skill will not produce clear results, maybe it's just a way to encourage yourself. A game that depends entirely on luck is a game that we don't really need to treat excessively, I'm sure out there there are those who have done gambling based on luck in a haphazard way but the results actually make them win and vice versa with those who try their hardest by thinking of many ways to win actually experience consecutive defeats.

Yes, that's actually an illusion that plays on our mind. Our minds do tell us that it's doable, playable and winnable at most times even if we're already losing.

But the right end of it, you'd see that there's something wrong when results are the same and we keep on losing it. With that, you have to change your coarse and realize that it's no longer beyond your control with the results.

By having that realization, you have to stop immediately or else, it's going to be a long results of negativity that will affect you mentally and emotionally.

When it comes to dice I believe that there is a level of connection that we get when we often throw the dice. These patterns work out most times, repeatedly that make us believe there is a pattern to it. It's not a complete fallacy. I have witnessed it when I was very fond of dice games. I dont know about other games but when it comes to dice a gambler can easily recognize a pattern, stick to it and it will keep working for them.

Gambling cannot be manipulated not even with spiritual activities. I have heard news about people who say they do see visions of games that they should bet on and when they do they win the bet. That's a big lie. There are other things we can do when gambling that will increase our chances of winning the game its not luck. If we are not prepared or we dont do the right thing we cant get lucky. So dont forget about the process that brings about the luck too.

I often call it the illusion of luck and hope that if we perform some kind of "ritual" before placing our bets and starting the game we would win some good amount. This could have been caused by a repeated occurrence in the past where we did something random and won and so we developed that thinking "illusion" that we can control the outcome of our bets if we repeat that behaviour. In slots it may be tapping faster or slower. It may even be betting on some particular days or even a particular time of the day. Anyways, I wouldn't blame anyone because humans have been coded to see patterns and we need something to hang unto in a game of uncertainty.

I personally do not that the skill based in gambling is an exercise on the dice games because when thrown the dice, can always revolve around and whatever number that comes up is literally a luck.

Although I still do believe that there are skill games which your experiences can build your minds up for you to defend possibilities of victory such as the card and cheese games etc.

Gambling is almost full of assumptions games that do still requires those tips of knowledges even though it is based on lucks.