Topic: Illusion of control - page 7. (Read 2719 times)

At this point I would like to ask if being optimistic has some benefits to the side of a gambler anytime he gambles because since gambling is a game of unknown and a complete game of luck. Yet, there are a lot of people that are still gambling and getting it right at any time they place their gambles, could we say that it is embedded in their power of being optimistic of what they are gambling? Aside from just being knowledgeable and having experience in gambling.

At this point, is it OK to say that having gambling strategies usually gives a gambler an edge over someone who's just gambling with their thoughts of being optimistic about the stakes and not necessarily having the knowledge or understanding or even experience so to say, in the game that they are gambling on.

But gambling is the unknown per definition, so if you don't like it, then better not gamble because for sure you will be emotionally damage specially if you don't know how to get over when you lose.

So it's better to start accepting that, when you gamble, you are betting on the unknown, and it's not always 50:50 unknown or it will be on our favor. That's why we keep coming back for more, as we thought that we might have the code to win, but in the end, it's not and we will lose money here. And with that, it's a learning experience, have self control and knows when to stop.

Lol dude, you make me crack my ribs  . To be honest this is absolutely correct. Even after a single win, the idea using same strategy you employed would always tend to pop up you your head. And the only reason we keep gambling even after so many loses is because  of the hope of wining. Hope is the reason gamblers keep gambling even when we know for sure that winning is based on luck.those who might have have a series of wins would always try to mentain the strategy they employed but at the long run, they'll  eventually understand that gamble doest follow a single pattern, and that is why casino are always on the wining side irrespective  of how much a gambler wins.

On the moment that we have decided on trying up gambling just because of some influence by other people/friends/exposure then you will really be thinking that there might be some ways or methods on which it might
really causing up for a certain gambler to be able to win up specially into those fast pace games on casinos. It will really be just that normal that you will really be having those impressions that strategies will really be something relevant and thats what make someone do make out some strategies on their own and trying to push themselves for it to work despite of the tons of loses that they had been able to obtain on such gambling run. We humans are natural greedy deep inside on which if  you cant be able to make out those early realizations then it will really be that something that makes you pile up tons of loses.

Always set those realistic approach at least on which on the moment or time that you wont really be having such mindset and being that delusional or having those imaginary that strategies do really work then
it will really be giving out that potential problem on which you would really be having thoughts that it will really be that working but its not. Regrets do always come at the end and dont wait up for yourself
into such situation and made out realizations when the damage has already been done.

For sports, some gamblers have a favourable betting option that works for them and they would never change that winning strategy. Some bet few games like 3-5 games, some maximum of 5 odds, some bet only on ov goals or under goals and I think that is a reasonable control in their bet.



Most players who won at some point especially few times and ran away feel they have control of those games because they were having a lucky straight win at the time. I have had someone who boosted to be a champ on certain table game but couldn't hold his ground when it mattered most.


Cards like chess depends on the IQ of the other player, yes they are intellectual games but I prefer chess more to have the illusion of a reasonable control than dice whose goal is either to roll harder or slower and the outcome is still not controlled by the player

I noticed we humans don’t like the unknown.

We don’t like randomness. We want explanations and logic. It is freaky to not be able to explain something and it’s frustrating when you have nothing to blame because everything falls under coincidence or chance. Nothing we can do about it but we still fool ourselves into thinking so otherwise why play? Each player probably believes that he’s the lucky one or he has something strategic plan that no one has ever thought of before. But in reality, none of that is true.

Yes, I agree with that so gamblers must think that they must control their obsession not making them forget that gambling is just a fun activity. They can not wins easily in gambling and if they just follow what the influencer did, they can lose their money without winning any money.

If they play dice game, must realize that game is based on the luck and if they don't have luck, they will difficult to win. They only waste their money if they lose control and many people have a bad experience for that.

The illusion of control keeps many gamblers engaged. In games like cards, to some extent, I believe you can control the outcome when you calculate properly, play your cards well, and have experience with the game. Similarly, in poker games that require strategic thinking, I think you can exert some control.

However, when it comes to games like dice, slots, and sports betting, I don't think gamblers have the level of control they think they do. These games are unpredictable, and the outcomes are often future events or chance.

In sports betting, for instance, you're predicting a future event, which is uncertain. Similarly, with dice, the outcome is determined by a random roll, and you have no control over the result.

I think the illusion of control comes from gamblers' past experiences, where they may have had success in certain games or at specific times. This can create a false sense of control, leading them to believe they can influence the outcome of games that are largely determined by chance.

So, while you may have some control in intellectual games like cards, you have little to no control in games that rely on chance or future events like dice.

Gambling is very dependent on luck, in a game like dice or slots, almost nothing depends on the player. You can think that this is not so and try, as you say, to roll the dice more gently, or I don’t know, maybe put on your favorite shirt, or a bracelet that you think brings you luck, but all this does not matter and will only create the illusion of luck for the player. But if this happens one day so that the player is lucky to win, then he will use this the next time he plays.

In my opinion, this illusion occurs because of the obsession in a gambler towards winning, it makes sense considering that when someone is obsessed with something, they will usually always think of various ways that they feel can influence the results, such as the scenario of throwing the dice more gently as you said, even though it is clear that in a type of luck-based game there is no way to control the results in the game, the point is that it is very simple to say that victory will only come or will only happen when luck comes even if you gamble blindly.

When we do play gambling then it cant really be avoided that we will really be molding up those kind of strategies and patterns that we do have in mind. This is the time that we will really trying out to make
those things happen and thats why on the moment that you do keep on failing or losing then you will really be that keeping on trying to hit up that winning that you've been hoping for.

There's no way that you could be able to beat up the house on which its really that wrong that you will really be having that kind of goal on which you are really that impossible.
Somehow there would really be that moments that you will really be that lucky on which it could give out those winning times too but the chance is really that less.

In some games, there is a bit less luck involved, for example poker. Yes, there is still a huge element of luck, but you can maximize your earning potentials if you know how to play, whereas in other games there's no way to maximize your odds with skill.

Human brains are great at making up explanations, and that's one of the reasons why gamblers are so full of myths and superstitions.

Something just happened when they won, and they lock that as something positive. Or something else happened when they lost, and that also gets locked in their minds as something that brings bad luck.

In the end, it's all made up in the mind.

Gamblers don't have control in the outcome of their prediction, just an assumption due to regular win. I could remember when playing a dice game I would literarily called a number before rolling or throwing my dice and the desired number will come up as if I had a super power, but was just a coincidence. Those are purely illusion and can be misleeding expecially when gambling with such strategy and hoping to get the Desired outcome, you may feel so disappointed when it turns out that you illusion control only works out during a usual game but fails when gambling to make money.

That illusion accumulates once we experience winning runs. Like a newbie who is unaware of the method of martingale and believe that doubling up is a way to go and reality hits him when he finds out the ruth about martingale.
Many gamblers experience this, and its a wake-up call when they finally learn the facts about gambling: it's not a way to make money, and enjoyment should come first and foremost, and only think of making money when you have a chance to do so.

Some players doesn't even realise that they are enriching the casino more as they keep engaging in revengeful betting habit thinking they can regain their losses by continuously wagering. Normally, one is bound to loses in gambling, that's why it's wise to have a good bankroll management that you might only risk what you can afford to lose. But the problem is that some people doesn't know all those things.

That comes from confidence, a false one and casinos tend to induce that sense of confidence in the players, added to it the myriad of promos and bonuses they add in, only makes the player think like they are the king of the casino, while in reality they are pauper. Also the sense of competition of having to win the game and not lose is another driving factor.

People dont want to lose, as soon as they do, they try to make it back. In gambling losses does not someone is a bad player it shows that the casino wins in the long run and that is how they run their business but players mistake this and think they are a bad player and thus they should play more to "improve" their odds - these biases run commonly among addicted gamblers.

Those who let their emotions make the gambling decisions for them all arrived at the same point, and that is losing to the point of regret. Letting you emotions decide for you only proves that you are not responsible. Luck comes when it chooses to, and no matter how much we try to make that come true for us, its not moved by our action, the best way to gamble happily is when you accept  every result just the way it is. Gambling under pressure  would only worsen the situation and that could lead to possessing the traits of a gamble addict. Well there is no guarantee that we will work out of the casino happy all the time, the casino is the favorite to win oftentimes.

Another issue is that even if the gambler got lucky and they obtained a big win that was enough to compensate all their previous losses, now they have gotten used to gamble and it has become part of their daily lives, making incredibly difficult for them to stop gambling as soon as they get that win, eventually gambling again and losing whatever profits they may have gotten, in light of this gamblers need to change the way they approach gambling or they risk developing a dependency to it.

The truth is, no body can just predict their lucky day in gambling, that's is why some players will become illusiona, they might think that if they stop gambling, they have lose their chance of winning at that moment they just stopped, because they believe that since they done know when they will be lucky, they should just keep playing till the luck comes. I have had such mind set before and I ended up to spend all my money and didn't win anything.

That I agree with but only if there's no cheating that is happening. Although it's different in online games right now, the cards are probably controlled by a system and algorithm so the gambling sites are in control with this. I think it's just live poker or physical poker where no one is in control of the cards but a player can literally control the pace of the game especially those who are really talented in it.
But with every other card game out there, there's no way we can say that the next one will be a winning result because it's not within our grasp on how the game will end up. Slots are actually the worst when it comes to discussion about control, the algorithms are made to make a gambler lose and it's basically chance when you end up with a high multiplier at the start of your game.