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legendary
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October 08, 2024, 06:24:36 AM
#52
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I think that is just one way of keeping your composure while gambling. It is important that you won't lose your cool and be in control with your emotion all the time, to avoid getting frustrated and place bets recklessly. We might call it an illusion, but it somehow helps us manage the risks in gambling. We tend to get good results when we are in a good mood for gambling. Even if you're not winning, being in a good mood will definitely keep you away from any emotional and mental stress related in gambling. But hey, a lot of people believes in it though. Every single person in a casino has a way of how they throw the dice in. Well, except for those multi millionaires who's only there for pure fun, they could always carelessly throw the dice in lol.

Really that hard on such situation on which specially if you are already that winning. You would really be pushing up yourself to play even more because of having the hopes that you could be able to make more.
When we do gamble then this is where things becomes that having a hard situation specially when you do hinder whether you do make out some withdrawal or would really be playing up further because you've been hoping on something that you do have wish in mind. Its true that there would really be moments that no matter how aware we are on such condition but still there would really be that urge that you should really be playing even more and having those kind of intuition or guts that you might be winning on the next bet. This is the main reason on why gambling is really that a profitable business into its owners because into its known
flaws on which a human being do have, on the time or moment that they will be making out such engagement. There are people who are really that good when it comes to self control and discipline but majority
will really be able to forget on the time or moment that they will experience those times where greed into its peak. Honestly, we arent that perfect on which no matter how old or veteran you are in gambling field
but since we are just humans then there would really be those times or moments that you will really be able to feel out these things along the way. This is why it will really be that recommended that you should be
careful and mindful on the actions that you would really be taking.
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October 08, 2024, 06:17:29 AM
#51
Isn't the chance of winning same as chance of losing, so I do not understand why there would be any sort of illusions. And if you are aware of your chances, you would never be under control of someone. Also, if you are a gambler and trying to find out a pattern which might be the most beneficial, you are just wrong. The chances of a trick/pattern to work is just as same as a monkey rolling the dice.
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 06:09:40 AM
#50
It can happen sometimes, I guess if we are playing too much of the same game, that's when it will trigger. We think we are professionals in playing that game but the truth is there's no such thing as gambling.
If you are talking about physical dice, it is true that we cannot control it except we are cheating and we put something on the dice that will make us control it. But when it is just normal dice, there's no telling what number will come out.
The same with online gambling dice, actually it's worse, we don't see dice rolling anymore and it's not us throwing the dice because everything is just an image that we see on the monitor. We cannot expect the gambling sites to give us profits like it is a charity, it's always business first so must lose.
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 05:43:15 AM
#49
So let's discuss about it.
Everyone knows that we often see gambling and from the experiences that occur, someone who is involved in the game, their brain continues to create or perceive what they see, In fact, the things that will happen are not yet real or their position is not clear, this does not only happen in dice games, almost all types of games have the same view.

For this reason, it is not surprising that we all often apply the Illusion property in our brains in all bets and often think about if I play like this, this way or why I don't do it this way to win, Even though we do that, the final result still doesn't match what we want and in the end it appears to us that gambling looks like cheating in all types of games, So gamble as much as you can, don't overdo it or it will create uncontrollable illusions.
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October 08, 2024, 05:28:44 AM
#48
When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill.
This is not true for card games as long as you are gambling against the house or the gambling site.

If you are playing Blackjack or Baccarat in a way that you are gambling against the house, it is not different from when you are playing non card games like roulettes and dices.

Even if it is poker and you are gambling against the house and not other gamblers, it is also still not different.

Sport can be different but also very risky.
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October 08, 2024, 05:15:57 AM
#47
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

Its funny you know, how some gamblers think they can actually beat the algorithm used in programming gambling’s random results generation. They all still arrive at the same end which is regret to have not conceived the thought in the first place. I have friends who actually thought they can master pattern in aviator game after lossing for a while all in the name of mastering the algorithm, they still ending up losing more even after they thought they have known it all. Gambling isn’t just like every other random game, if it was that easy I believe many person would have amounted millionaires by just gambling. With the example you gave it’s clear to everyone how gambling operate, the dice is indeed the best explanation to how gambling works.
This is familiar about me. I had a comrade who for a long time and stubbornly tried to play the dice according to the Martingale system. It took a lot of time to understand that the system is good only at short distances and in general it was not viable. If this scheme would have been casino for a long time. If it worked, but not everyone wants to understand this.
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October 08, 2024, 04:54:12 AM
#46
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I think that is just one way of keeping your composure while gambling. It is important that you won't lose your cool and be in control with your emotion all the time, to avoid getting frustrated and place bets recklessly. We might call it an illusion, but it somehow helps us manage the risks in gambling. We tend to get good results when we are in a good mood for gambling. Even if you're not winning, being in a good mood will definitely keep you away from any emotional and mental stress related in gambling. But hey, a lot of people believes in it though. Every single person in a casino has a way of how they throw the dice in. Well, except for those multi millionaires who's only there for pure fun, they could always carelessly throw the dice in lol.
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 04:40:42 AM
#45
If they think like that, they will never see the reality from gambling which they can lose much money. They can not control the games but they can control themselves not to lose big. Playing dice game can makes us lose control because we can feels the games is exciting and gives pleasure to us. We will difficult to recognize the pattern from gambling games so that will not easy to win. We must handle our brain so that will not assume that we can control the games. No matters how hard we do, we will still lose as gambling is only for have fun.
I think it helps a lot to understand the processes in gambling when we know a lot about how it works. For example, how a casino makes money, what are the features of each game, be it poker, betting or slots. For example, slots are not very interesting to me, because I don’t want to mindlessly press one button, I want to conduct at least a small analysis of the bets and apply mental effort, for me it’s interesting. I can’t understand those who bet on luck, it’s not interesting to me at all. Although I understand that all players are different and some just want to press a button and have cash fall at their feet.
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October 08, 2024, 04:30:20 AM
#44
If they think like that, they will never see the reality from gambling which they can lose much money. They can not control the games but they can control themselves not to lose big. Playing dice game can makes us lose control because we can feels the games is exciting and gives pleasure to us. We will difficult to recognize the pattern from gambling games so that will not easy to win. We must handle our brain so that will not assume that we can control the games. No matters how hard we do, we will still lose as gambling is only for have fun.
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October 08, 2024, 03:35:48 AM
#43
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

When playing dice, people have no control over anything. When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill. For example, if a person decides to play a slot machine, that person puts money in the machine and presses the button and waits for the result. That person has no control over anything. There is no strategy that that person can use to change the result. But when a person is playing a card game or betting on sports, that person has time to analyze the games and create a strategy that allows him to win. So in my opinion, games of chance that do not depend on luck allow people to be in control.

Of course, to some extent, but it could vary from the idea of Op, he is mainly referring to players who think they can control no skill games due to their experience and the period of time they've spent on the game. Which is common amongst slot players. A times when playing  roulettes I imagine my next prediction to fall on red, but it ends up being false.

Perhaps such thoughts is what retains most players to continue losing in slots, because nobody would want to stay with what they can't control. Hence, the illusion of control created within the player drives him to assume that the results are dependent on his decision. Though risky, but most players prefer being in that mode than accepting the truth that they can't manipulate any results in slots.
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October 08, 2024, 03:33:56 AM
#42
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

If we are going to discuss dice games, I remember when I was new to crypto casino, these dice games are often used as gambling bets, and I even use them as a martingale because I read something here on the forum that says that when you lose, the next time you lose, double your bet.

As long as you're losing, you double it. At first, it was effective, but the longer you play, it doesn't become effective because, in the end, I still lose because I experienced it before; I was able to roll 15x and I still didn't win. So in short, the martingale method is not effective in dice games.
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 03:11:03 AM
#41
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

When playing dice, people have no control over anything. When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill. For example, if a person decides to play a slot machine, that person puts money in the machine and presses the button and waits for the result. That person has no control over anything. There is no strategy that that person can use to change the result. But when a person is playing a card game or betting on sports, that person has time to analyze the games and create a strategy that allows him to win. So in my opinion, games of chance that do not depend on luck allow people to be in control.
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October 08, 2024, 03:01:03 AM
#40
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

If you check on Youtube and google with a dice strategy you will see many people claiming the same thing, that they have found out a strategy that works and they maybe right for a short time, enough time to post a video on Youtube claiming their winnings there. There is only one problem, over the long run this is an illusion as it will not work over the long term. I tried some of the so called strategies and they eat my money so fast. Only one strategy works, 98% win chance which serves for wagering to increase VIP levels and this is a losing strategy over the long run, it only works for increasing your VIP ranks.
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October 08, 2024, 02:44:31 AM
#39
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

Yes, that's what casinos try to use in their advantage.

They offer things like copying the strategy of "experts" or make you think that you are closer to win than what really is the actual odd of it.

It's all an illusion as OP described, it's all in the mind of the gambler, who usually gets addicted with this fantasy and then loses all their money to it.

Gambling can be fun, but you need to be in control of it, otherwise it becomes in control of you.
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October 08, 2024, 02:35:28 AM
#38
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved.

The illusion of control has a sunk deep into the mindset of individuals such that when they are involved in certain games like the dice and they are getting a good outcome they then feel they are the one's controlling their win which us quite unusual to think of, but then having such mindset it's also great as your setting a pace for positivity in the game which will amounts to a win in general but mind you this illusion of control over games it's bent on lucks and a little strategies of how you throw the dice. But thinking you have control over your bets it's impossible because the scenario of throwing of dice it's totally different from betting.
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October 08, 2024, 02:25:55 AM
#37
Sometimes such illusions really do give us the victory we expect. But for me such things are just luck because if we talk about this about a game based on luck, it is certainly not the impetus of the illusion.
Like when playing slot games, sometimes we use the spin method 2x 10x and so on. For some gamblers, such things can provide victory but in fact such illusions do not guarantee victory.
But such illusions seem to have become a habit that cannot be removed.
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 02:20:16 AM
#36
there is always a chance that makes betting difficult to predict.
you always have to take this possibility into account until the end of the game.
I believe that every strategy must always take this aspect into account. That's why I'm one of those who always suggests cashout instead of waiting for the result until the end Roll Eyes
legendary
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October 08, 2024, 02:13:08 AM
#35
I have to says this is similar just like illusion in gambling because people feel they have a power to influence the results of every rolls when playing dice so that's why confidently some people always look for the strategies to win from playing dice such as using martingale strategy or using bots because people thought with using different strategies during playing dice they can predict and control the outcome of every rolls but in fact playing dice is only rely on our luck so there was no special skill which can boosted your luck or increase the winning chances and any strategies will not working well to playing this game because it is impossible to beat the algorithm of gambling for online casinos
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October 08, 2024, 12:17:18 AM
#34
It's really stupid if someone think throwing softer or harder would affect the outcome, similar like believing in superstition, patience etc.

They're worse compared to someone who use martingale strategy etc which they've calculated there's a possibility their strategy will beat the house edge. At least you have a proof or something that can prove if you're not wrong, however believing in something that didn't exist is like an idiot.
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October 07, 2024, 11:11:47 PM
#33
That is normal because they think that they will wins in the next rounds. Their brain learns the pattern and will say to themselves that the next rounds will be the same pattern so they can place bigger money to win. But the reality is not the same as they think because gambling is difficult to predicts especially for gambling games based on the luck. They should not trying to do that if they don't want to lose their money because that can makes them curious with the results.
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