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vip
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April 23, 2013, 03:48:03 AM
#30
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I know a lot of people are being hurt by the incident. So is me. I really hope that my previous compensation was valuable and useful to the people being hurt. 5000 BTC at peak Bitcoin price was several multiples of Bitcoinica's sale price but I had no regret for doing something I could to help people in need....[/size]

Answer me this please.

The main reason Bitcoinica fund haven't been returned yet is because the database of who is owed what has "vanished".

How have you managed to pay a fair share of 5000btc to creditors if nobody else can ?

I had made a claim to you very early but, Your form was poorly constructed to account for open positions You didn't read the note field. And proceeded to full payment the day later.

You've skipped over my claim in the same way you've paid bogus claims.

I hold you and your imaginary friend "Chen" as the only suspect to that last theft (With a mountain of evidences).

OK. The 5000 BTC is my personal funds, so I get to decide how to distribute and allocate. You are Bitcoinica's creditor, not mine.

At the beginning it was not meant to be a replacement of Bitcoinica's compensation claim. I just wanted to help, whether equitable or not. I assumed everyone was honest.

I didn't have the time to carefully examine each claim, so I went through very quickly to filter bonus ones. Since I believe it's better to pass a bonus claim rather than fail an honest claim, my standard was not strict.

I'm sorry if you think the process is unfair. But that's over 80% of my entire Bitcoin savings. Mt. Gox is currently withholding Bitcoinica's assets distributable to Bitcoinica creditors including at least 20000 BTC (I'm not sure of the exact numbers). That's where the money should come from. I was just making a donation to people who were affected.
hero member
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April 23, 2013, 03:43:42 AM
#29
Oh look who it is.

How is the Chinese relic hunter multi-billionaire triad boss über hacker?
hero member
Activity: 609
Merit: 501
peace
April 23, 2013, 03:13:32 AM
#28
You say that there is no place to short bitcoins but Bitfinex is up and running using your code from Bitcoinica.

Have you checked that out?

You can buy Put options through MPEX.
It's not quite the Addictive nature of margin trading ala bitcoinica but definitely has a place in a solid financial plan.
And dare I say that the security model inspires.
 
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
April 23, 2013, 01:23:37 AM
#27
You say that there is no place to short bitcoins but Bitfinex is up and running using your code from Bitcoinica.

Have you checked that out?
donator
Activity: 1731
Merit: 1008
April 23, 2013, 12:48:19 AM
#26
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I know a lot of people are being hurt by the incident. So is me. I really hope that my previous compensation was valuable and useful to the people being hurt. 5000 BTC at peak Bitcoin price was several multiples of Bitcoinica's sale price but I had no regret for doing something I could to help people in need....[/size]

Answer me this please.

The main reason Bitcoinica fund haven't been returned yet is because the database of who is owed what has "vanished".

How have you managed to pay a fair share of 5000btc to creditors if nobody else can ?

I had made a claim to you very early but, Your form was poorly constructed to account for open positions You didn't read the note field. And proceeded to full payment the day later.

You've skipped over my claim in the same way you've paid bogus claims.

I hold you and your imaginary friend "Chen" as the only suspect to that last theft (With a mountain of evidences).
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:58:40 PM
#25
hero member
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Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
April 22, 2013, 10:46:17 PM
#24
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:42:24 PM
#23
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?

I was doing a LR->USD exchange for a Singapore friend (total $100K, and $30K in XMLGold, $40K in AurumXChange, and the rest OTC). He paid me $100K in LR and I paid my friend $100K in full (taking a huge loss), so the $40K should be mine. It's a transfer from my LR account to my bank account. It's never a third-party transfer like some other said.

At that time, I told CJH (the Bitcoinica hacker) about AurumXChange's accusation (I had to tell). He decided to withhold $40K from the payment to Patrick Murck. I asked him not to, but he persisted. Later, he gave me a verified Alipay account with $40K equivalent in CNY. I didn't bother to touch the funds because AurumXChange was lying to me about their correspondence. (To date I still haven't received a single email from them, despite their false claims on the forum).

Now CJH is gone (phone: powered off, QQ: offline, email: no response) and the Alipay account got its password changed (most likely by him after withdrawing the funds).

So AurumXChange has succeeded in ripping off $40K by using the coincidence of Bitcoinica hack and my Singapore trip (I can even show anyone my passport stamps of leaving Australia during the hack, PM me). There was no AML investigation and I didn't receive anything.

I allowed them to send to Bitcoinica because I felt it's better in Bitcoinica creditors' hands rather than theirs. No matter how they feel about whether it's an insider job or not (it's not), they have my full consent to send money to Bitcoinica. (Even if it's really an insider job, the money should also be sent to Bitcoinica, with or without my consent). But they clearly didn't do anything and kept the funds for themselves.

I'm no longer mad at them but I still hope AurumXchange can do the right thing. I will take the reputation hit as a punishment for not choosing business partners carefully (the Bitcoinica Consultancy) and it's understandable that AurumXchange wanted to do good for the community by revealing suspects.

EDIT WITH PROOF:

Bitcoinica was hacked on July 13 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-mtgox-account-compromised-93074

Depart Australia:
(Passport Number blocked off)


Enter Australia:
(Passport Number blocked off)


Flight Ticket:
(Frequent Flyer number and Ticket number blocked off)
(Note that the original flight were oversold, so I travelled on the 14th of July instead of 13th.)
legendary
Activity: 2156
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
April 22, 2013, 10:40:20 PM
#22
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?

Roberto and the gang at AurumXchange are scummy pieces of crap. Would you honestly expect him to give back the funds or discuss his theft of the money?
hero member
Activity: 1652
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Catalog Websites
April 22, 2013, 10:31:43 PM
#21
welcome back!
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Hero VIP ultra official trusted super staff puppet
April 22, 2013, 10:28:11 PM
#20
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
April 22, 2013, 10:27:18 PM
#19
Just 2 years older than me, and you have more money than I ever will, unless of course I move to ASIC fast. Personally I wanted to start a Bitcoin service myself, but apparently nothing is hacker-proof, but unlike you, I would not have the money to repay anyone, and because I saw what people are capable here, they can easily send you(referring to myself) to jail...

If you have any tips regarding these hacks, which might be helpful, please do share.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:25:05 PM
#18
ZT, how do u feel about the funder of bitcoinica is now a funder of coinlab?

I have nothing but gratefulness for Tihan. Regardless of the result, he literally changed my life. I wouldn't ever call myself an entrepreneur without his support.

For the CoinLab thing, I really have no comment at the moment. I didn't follow this company very closely.
So, how old are you now, and how much coins do you currently hold, if it's no secret?

I'm 18 years old. I personally hold less than 100 BTC and I have given my family a 100 BTC gold-plated bar plus 28 Casascius Series I coins (so technically no longer mine).

I have sold the 1000 BTC during the recent price spike for some investment in a new company (unrelated to Bitcoin or domains). Another (minor) reason was that  I felt that Bitcoin was overpriced.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1011
Reverse engineer from time to time
April 22, 2013, 10:21:11 PM
#17
ZT, how do u feel about the funder of bitcoinica is now a funder of coinlab?

I have nothing but gratefulness for Tihan. Regardless of the result, he literally changed my life. I wouldn't ever call myself an entrepreneur without his support.

For the CoinLab thing, I really have no comment at the moment. I didn't follow this company very closely.
So, how old are you now, and how much coins do you currently hold, if it's no secret?
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:19:07 PM
#16
ZT, how do u feel about the funder of bitcoinica is now a funder of coinlab?

I have nothing but gratefulness for Tihan. Regardless of the result, he literally changed my life. I wouldn't ever call myself an entrepreneur without his support.

For the CoinLab thing, I really have no comment at the moment. I didn't follow this company very closely.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:16:39 PM
#15
Great to have you back. Thanks for the music videos in the meantime!
The videos were made by ZhouTonged. Completely different person.

I assumed the quoted reply was sarcasm. But if not, yeah, totally different.
legendary
Activity: 1304
Merit: 1015
April 22, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
#14
ZT, how do u feel about the funder of bitcoinica is now a funder of coinlab?
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
April 22, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
#13
Great to have you back. Thanks for the music videos in the meantime!
The videos were made by ZhouTonged. Completely different person.
vip
Activity: 490
Merit: 502
April 22, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
#12
Fascinating! It seems like no one can ever really stay away from this place. I guess the next thread will be started by Pirate or Clipse.

I'm a little disturbed by the fact that I'm being compared to users with scammer tags. But anyway, hope Satoshi will be back soon.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
April 22, 2013, 10:08:24 PM
#11
Great to have you back. Thanks for the music videos in the meantime!

I'm pretty sure that I don't deserve the attribution of the videos. I didn't have time to enjoy them but I will when I'm bored.
Well, you have a name in the community as you are well aware of. I am looking forward to your contributions.

Pretty much said it, OP'd better stay low key.
For the record, I have no problem with Zhou Tong. I was not involved in the bitcoinity problems and I have no strong opinions on the issue. And I am not sure this is the right place to discuss it.

Me too, I just think he needs a reminder as you have so implicitly put.
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