Topic: I'm back! - page 8. (Read 12557 times)

Once evidence started pointing towards zhou, zhou himself said that an associate of zhou's stole the password and the bitcoins.  He provided this "friend's" name.  And claimed the friend was involved in organized crime and also a hunter of ancient antiquities and relics.  Then after outing the mysterious relic hunter, he can't or won't provide any more details about the 'real' thief's identity that would allow authorities to track him down.

I don't know about you, but I don't think it's wise to rat out a multi-millionaire organized criminal.  Such a person would be likely to do something to shut you up.  Not like bitcoiners who get scammed and complain and do nothing.

If you actually believe this ridiculous story, zhou knows the identity of the bitcoinia thief, inadvertently provided him with enough info to steal the passwords, and isn't doing anything to assist in catching the thief.

And if you don't, then zhou is like OJ Simpson, talking about the 'real' thief to deflect blame away from himself.

Either way, I wouldn't trust him.

Hi Greyhawk,

Sorry, I don't know much about this person. Catching up on things now.  But that was a quick lie (age being 18) that I caught, which led me to doubt everything else he was writing about.  Now learning that this person is a complete scammer.

Welcome to bitcointalk, you'll fit right in here.

Age is a minor issue. But if it's a lie (which I believe it is), then what else is a lie? If you're going to lie about something so simple, then what about the complicated/elaborate things that you're speaking of?

We know that. Everyone in this thread knows that. Well at least the one's talking about imaginary relic hunters.

Doesn't make him "not 18". That's about the most uninteresting part of all this. It's like trying to squeeze through a needlepin-pricky hole in his story while the rest of us are happily slaloming with a Humvee through the giant gaping maws in the story while swilling beer, singing rowdy songs and baring our asses at all the ladies.

Couldn't agree more..if it had something to do with anything. What does his age have to do with anything though?

Without going into details -- was a new sentence and referred to my profession.

In regards to his/her age actually being 18, I'm not the one that should be providing evidence, he/she (Zhou Tong) should be proving it.

Starting with proving who they are and everything else about them.  He/she obviously wants something now, otherwise they wouldn't be so bent on attempting to regain the trust of this board with their elaborate explanations.

..or evidence. Amirite?

Hi Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย,

This person (Zhou Tong) isn't 18.  Without going into details, in my profession (for the past 20 years) I have interviewed hundreds of individuals. One of the things that we look for is a slight inconsistency in their story which we then go after it.  Sometimes the inconsistency is due to something innocent (hiding an affair, minor theft) relative to what we're looking into.  But more often than not, it's a slip-up on their part because they're trying to hide something else (what we're actually interested in).  Once we get to that "something else", then we widen the hole in their story.  Further inconsistencies are developed by them to explain away the initial lie which leads to the hole in their story becoming wider and wider, with the final outcome either being them admitting to what occurred or requesting an attorney since their back is now against the wall with a mountain of lies on top of them.

Without know this Zhow Tong personally, I would say that he/she is "back" in an effort to perpetrate some new type of fraud.  His/her intent is to size up the audience and then build confidence, hence the elaborate explanations.  He/she will ultimately gain the trust of enough people to be able to pull one more scam.

Caveat emptor

WHAT IS THIS ? "He could easy find out if he used plain text password in any of his websites."
What website does he have ?

This was the email you were using regularly to exchange with peoples, How would some bogus "using plain text password in any of *? websites." give him access to it ?

That maybe exactly where the problem is? So did the corporation give all this information to you and ask you, a non-member to help with the investigation, or you just got access to the E-mail account? Sounds like quite a bit of mixup of personal/business affairs here.

I was not asking for trust. I will build something that requires little trust (such as open source app, for example).

There was a credit card of Bitcoinica's accountant in the LastPass account used to pay some bills. CJH used that card to purchase stuff on Amazon shipped to a freight forwarder with his real name. The confirmation email was sent to the sock puppet email account.

I explained it 11 months ago and no one read.

For the newcomers benefit, can someone give a brief account on who zhou tong is? And what was his role in the bitcoinica fiasco.


Thanks in advance.

"Innocent until proven guilty" only works when you are facing a possible prosecution, doesn't apply when you're trying to get people's trust for your business.


Okay you may not give him the password, but how did you figure out it was him who did the hack? Did you have any evidence against him?

The "password" to the LastPass account was found in the source code leaked by genjix. I didn't set it or leak the source code.

I have only heard of "innocent until proven guilty", not the other way round. Plus, how can innocence ever be proven? I can get a police clearance tomorrow, if you like.

EDIT: Clearly CJH is an outsider. Even I am not the member of the company. I sold Bitcoinica in 2011.

Let me say a few things, Zhou Tong. I don't know if Bitcoinica was properly registered and where, but if it was, then CJH should be a member of the company and we should be able to see his name on some documents, or otherwise he shouldn't get access to the password, which is the company's assets, right? If you are not careful with that, then you have to prepare for the consequences, which is what you're experiencing now:you are unable to prove your innocence. For another, providing that you told the truth about the hacking incident, you were still being irresponsible for not properly storing the company's funds in cold wallets.

Whatever maybe the case, try to stay low key, your return will not be something worth celebrating about as many people, especially victims of the hacking incident, will remain suspicious about you.

Hey, sometimes the age is not that obvious. You never know what you're talking to over the Internet. 

That said, welcome back Ryan. It's been so long since your hiatus from here.

I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age.  With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.

 

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