Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
That's actually quite simple. We've seen pictures, how about you do a Q&A session on Ustream now?
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That's actually quite simple. We've seen pictures, how about you do a Q&A session on Ustream now?
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
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Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
Welcome back Zhou.
Look forward to seeing your contributions.
I will raise hell though if you are ever in a position of receiving funds.
But then again, I'm sure you know better and are or would be using another
name and invented identity to run a "bitcon" business
Good Luck! I really do hope the best for you. I'll give you a second chance on
everything except trust.
Look forward to seeing your contributions.
I will raise hell though if you are ever in a position of receiving funds.
But then again, I'm sure you know better and are or would be using another
name and invented identity to run a "bitcon" business
Good Luck! I really do hope the best for you. I'll give you a second chance on
everything except trust.
Thanks. I have been using my real name to do business for my whole life and it's really inconvenient to invent a new identity. So I won't do it.
Trust is not a problem. If I make something that accepts deposits I will most likely impose a small "balance upper limit" (e.g. 10 BTC) that's sufficient to enjoy the services. Since it won't be another exchange, there should be no reason to leave a large amount of balance for a long period of time.
Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.
Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
That's a lie told by AurumXchange. I've never worked for Microsoft. (I didn't even use any Microsoft product at that time.)
Very few people have met me so far, but I'm going to be more open as part of the "comeback". I'll try to attend as many Bitcoiner events as possible.
I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age. With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.
My thoughts exactly. He can't be 18, that's ridiculous. And if I remember correctly he was "18" about 1.5 years ago when I first heard about Bitcoinica, and already I had my doubts about his age. So he should update his legend and suddenly grow up to at least 19.
So you know for a fact what his real date of birth is? Please, if you do in fact know that, then post it here along with proof.
Seems like it, right? But no, he's still 18 for a few more months.
Well, that's maybe what it says on his profile, but he sure sounds like an adult. If he worked for Microsoft, they probably wouldn't hire a 17-years old, would they? And for pictures he could use his son.
Did anybody actually met him in person? Melbourne is a big city, there should be plenty of bitcoiners there.
I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age. With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.
My thoughts exactly. He can't be 18, that's ridiculous. And if I remember correctly he was "18" about 1.5 years ago when I first heard about Bitcoinica, and already I had my doubts about his age. So he should update his legend and suddenly grow up to at least 19.
This thread just reminded me that I forgot to send in my info for the liquidation claims process. I think the deadline was sometime in January. Oops. But, the odds of getting those 150BTC back, or anything remotely close to that amount, seemed, and still seemed, so remote that it just wasn't on my mind. I guess somebody's got them, will get them, so you're welcome zou, or Amir, or liquidators, or whoever ends up with them. I've just been counting that as the cost of learning the value of offline security.
Welcom back Zhou!
I'm an outsider that can only speculate, but my personal opinion is you are not a scammer. That's my own opinion.
I do think you should be open to another financial services platform. You're clearly good at it and I see a way it can help the community. People would be rightfully wary of any Bitcoinica 2 from you and keep only minimum balances in their accounts. That's a healthy attitude with Bitcoin, and people need to be trained that way. I've often said people should not keep more funds or coins in any online Bitcoin account than they are prepared to lose completely. If people followed that advice the impact of things like Bitcoinica and mybitcoin.com would not be so great.
Bitcoin is still small so developing healthy practices now is better in the long run.
I'm an outsider that can only speculate, but my personal opinion is you are not a scammer. That's my own opinion.
I do think you should be open to another financial services platform. You're clearly good at it and I see a way it can help the community. People would be rightfully wary of any Bitcoinica 2 from you and keep only minimum balances in their accounts. That's a healthy attitude with Bitcoin, and people need to be trained that way. I've often said people should not keep more funds or coins in any online Bitcoin account than they are prepared to lose completely. If people followed that advice the impact of things like Bitcoinica and mybitcoin.com would not be so great.
Bitcoin is still small so developing healthy practices now is better in the long run.
Zhoutong, where is your collector friend? 
You better stay low. Your name is already tainted. We're not stupid. Good luck with the rest of your life, you need it
You better stay low. Your name is already tainted. We're not stupid. Good luck with the rest of your life, you need it
For those that don't want to read everything - here is a short summary.
Zhou Tong used to run bitcoinica. Using inside information, he stole bitcoins at least two times from that company.
The last theft was traced directly back to him.
With no way to defend himself, he made up a fictional character that NO PERSON ever met, or spoke to, other than Zhou Tong himself. He blamed everything on this other person, therefore making himself look innocent. Of course, ZERO evidence was ever presented that this person is real.
We're now told this imaginary person cannot be contacted - so Zhou hopes we will all just forget about his theft. He still owes the community 5,000 btc. Religious (aka gullible) people may believe his story, but the rest of us know he is a thief.
WHY NO SCAMMER TAG? He donated a lot of money to the forum.
To read the entire story:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
Zhou Tong used to run bitcoinica. Using inside information, he stole bitcoins at least two times from that company.
The last theft was traced directly back to him.
With no way to defend himself, he made up a fictional character that NO PERSON ever met, or spoke to, other than Zhou Tong himself. He blamed everything on this other person, therefore making himself look innocent. Of course, ZERO evidence was ever presented that this person is real.
We're now told this imaginary person cannot be contacted - so Zhou hopes we will all just forget about his theft. He still owes the community 5,000 btc. Religious (aka gullible) people may believe his story, but the rest of us know he is a thief.
WHY NO SCAMMER TAG? He donated a lot of money to the forum.
To read the entire story:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
Good point. I wonder why no tag has been given?
Welcome back Zhou.
Look forward to seeing your contributions.
I will raise hell though if you are ever in a position of receiving funds.
But then again, I'm sure you know better and are or would be using another
name and invented identity to run a "bitcon" business
Good Luck! I really do hope the best for you. I'll give you a second chance on
everything except trust.
Look forward to seeing your contributions.
I will raise hell though if you are ever in a position of receiving funds.
But then again, I'm sure you know better and are or would be using another
name and invented identity to run a "bitcon" business
Good Luck! I really do hope the best for you. I'll give you a second chance on
everything except trust.
I guess, he spent all what he scammed and now wants more 
For those that don't want to read everything - here is a short summary.
Zhou Tong used to run bitcoinica. Using inside information, he stole bitcoins at least two times from that company.
The last theft was traced directly back to him.
With no way to defend himself, he made up a fictional character that NO PERSON ever met, or spoke to, other than Zhou Tong himself. He blamed everything on this other person, therefore making himself look innocent. Of course, ZERO evidence was ever presented that this person is real.
We're now told this imaginary person cannot be contacted - so Zhou hopes we will all just forget about his theft. He still owes the community 5,000 btc. Religious (aka gullible) people may believe his story, but the rest of us know he is a thief.
WHY NO SCAMMER TAG? He donated a lot of money to the forum.
To read the entire story:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
Zhou Tong used to run bitcoinica. Using inside information, he stole bitcoins at least two times from that company.
The last theft was traced directly back to him.
With no way to defend himself, he made up a fictional character that NO PERSON ever met, or spoke to, other than Zhou Tong himself. He blamed everything on this other person, therefore making himself look innocent. Of course, ZERO evidence was ever presented that this person is real.
We're now told this imaginary person cannot be contacted - so Zhou hopes we will all just forget about his theft. He still owes the community 5,000 btc. Religious (aka gullible) people may believe his story, but the rest of us know he is a thief.
WHY NO SCAMMER TAG? He donated a lot of money to the forum.
To read the entire story:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
I know very little about you, but I have read all of your responses in the thread and I can say with the utmost certainty that you are NOT 18 years of age. With that said, if you're lying about that simple fact, then I have significant doubts about everything else you're saying.
My thoughts exactly. He can't be 18, that's ridiculous. And if I remember correctly he was "18" about 1.5 years ago when I first heard about Bitcoinica, and already I had my doubts about his age. So he should update his legend and suddenly grow up to at least 19.
Welcome back! lol
Nothing really has changed, except the soaring prices (it doesn't have a lot to do with me other than seeing my out-of-pocket 5,000 BTC personal compensation is valued at >$1 million at peak, that was over 80% of my entire Bitcoin savings and I didn't purchase more after the incident). Bitcoinica LP is still not liquidated with zero progress of the fund return.
And nothing of value was lost, right?
First: Are you up for a /r/bitcoin IAMA?
Regarding Bitcoinica: What, if anything, would you have done differently?
(Refresher: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2973301)
In your opinion, what happened to Bitcoinica?
Are you a party in the civil litigation against Bitcoinica?
What is your opinion on the (recent) death of instawallet?
What is your opinion of the Bitcoin Consultancy trio?
How is your registrar business doing?
How is your sleep?
Yeah, zhoutong isn't a bad guy. Maybe a few holes in the original code, then followed up by new ownership that were more careless and - boom - shit storm.
Still, zhoutong made a valuable contribution to the bitcoin community with good intentions.
welcome back.
Once evidence started pointing towards zhou, zhou himself said that an associate of zhou's stole the password and the bitcoins. He provided this "friend's" name. And claimed the friend was involved in organized crime and also a hunter of ancient antiquities and relics. Then after outing the mysterious relic hunter, he can't or won't provide any more details about the 'real' thief's identity that would allow authorities to track him down.
I don't know about you, but I don't think it's wise to rat out a multi-millionaire organized criminal. Such a person would be likely to do something to shut you up. Not like bitcoiners who get scammed and complain and do nothing.
If you actually believe this ridiculous story, zhou knows the identity of the bitcoinia thief, inadvertently provided him with enough info to steal the passwords, and isn't doing anything to assist in catching the thief.
And if you don't, then zhou is like OJ Simpson, talking about the 'real' thief to deflect blame away from himself.
Either way, I wouldn't trust him.
WOW! Classic con-man.
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