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greyhawk

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Quote from: bitcoinminer on April 23, 2013, 09:08:41 AM

I think your next project should be investing. Take in funds, which go into a completely opaque investment, and promise astronomical returns, and use new investments to pay out the old investors.

That Charles Ponzi really had a good thing going for awhile.

Me personally, I can't wait for the ZhouMiner 3000.

I can see the taglines already:
- "It runs fast like zhou when he found noone believed his fairy tale."
- "Delivers bitcoins to your pockets quicker than a hacked exchange."

001sonkit

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Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou

Welcome back Ryan. Thou haven't touch upon much with Bitcoinica or others and havent heard much about you by the time i started using Bitcoin. But at least, i got my domain from you.

bitcoinminer

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I think your next project should be investing. Take in funds, which go into a completely opaque investment, and promise astronomical returns, and use new investments to pay out the old investors.

That Charles Ponzi really had a good thing going for awhile.

zhoutong

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Quote from: bitclown on April 23, 2013, 07:22:51 AM

Lesson for aspiring Bitcoin scammers: When caught red-handed, just make up bizarre fairytales with shakespearean characters and amazing coincidences. You'll get a free pass and will be praised by the community.

It's a scam made up (fairly successfully) by AurumXchange. Look at who has the money right now: AurumXchange has my $40K and Mt. Gox has Bitcoinica creditors' over $2 million worth of Bitcoins. (I'm not saying Mt. Gox is wrong or anything. It's merely a fact.) I have nothing (and 5000 BTC LESS in my pocket).

Thank you for your sarcasm. I believe the free pass and praise will be more valuable if you identify the real scammer correctly.

If you are the victim who is the real scammer? Your made up friend in china?

You answered your own question. If you are not believing me, there's no way I can answer your questions. Both of your posts are phrased similar to:

"Is Goat the hacker? Or is Goat too afraid to admit it?"

CJH is a real person. I shopped at his Taobao store before. He hacked Bitcoinica and admitted it and returned majority of the funds. I don't think he's living with any gains from the hack now. But he can no longer be contacted regardless.

How did your friend get your password? Did he hack you or use vilonce? Or did you give it to him?

The password was heavily re-used. He could easy find out if he used plain text password in any of his websites.

EDIT: It seems that you have almost zero knowledge for the entire incident. I'm back in this forum to contribute, not arguing things that were already clarified long ago. If you really have that many questions to ask, please email [email protected]. I will try my best to entertain your request. Thanks!

EDIT 2: CJH is not my friend. I don't have a friend like him. He gave me advice on anti-fraud payment systems on QQ and I paid him. He wouldn't help out of friendship.

greyhawk

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I hope he used violins.

zhoutong

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Quote from: zhoutong on April 23, 2013, 07:56:01 AM

Quote from: bitclown on April 23, 2013, 07:22:51 AM

Lesson for aspiring Bitcoin scammers: When caught red-handed, just make up bizarre fairytales with shakespearean characters and amazing coincidences. You'll get a free pass and will be praised by the community.

It's a scam made up (fairly successfully) by AurumXchange. Look at who has the money right now: AurumXchange has my $40K and Mt. Gox has Bitcoinica creditors' over $2 million worth of Bitcoins. (I'm not saying Mt. Gox is wrong or anything. It's merely a fact.) I have nothing (and 5000 BTC LESS in my pocket).

Thank you for your sarcasm. I believe the free pass and praise will be more valuable if you identify the real scammer correctly.

If you are the victim who is the real scammer? Your made up friend in china?

You answered your own question. If you are not believing me, there's no way I can answer your questions. Both of your posts are phrased similar to:

"Is Goat the hacker? Or is Goat too afraid to admit it?"

CJH is a real person. I shopped at his Taobao store before. He hacked Bitcoinica and admitted it and returned majority of the funds. I don't think he's living with any gains from the hack now. But he can no longer be contacted regardless.

zhoutong

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Quote from: meowmeowbrowncow on April 23, 2013, 08:02:17 AM

Yeah, zhoutong isn't a bad guy. Maybe a few holes in the original code, then followed up by new ownership that were more careless and - boom - shit storm.

Still, zhoutong made a valuable contribution to the bitcoin community with good intentions.

welcome back.

The code may be bad (a lot better now), but that's not the direct cause of the hacks. The infrastructure is a bigger problem. As I was the only guy building infrastructure, I will take the responsibility.

Objectives for my next project:
- Test code ratio: 1.5 : 1
- LOC/M: 5-6
- Leave infrastructure to a more experienced sysadmin/security professional that I personally know

Thanks for the trust and support!

meowmeowbrowncow

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Yeah, zhoutong isn't a bad guy. Maybe a few holes in the original code, then followed up by new ownership that were more careless and - boom - shit storm.

Still, zhoutong made a valuable contribution to the bitcoin community with good intentions.

welcome back.

zhoutong

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Quote from: bitclown on April 23, 2013, 07:22:51 AM

Lesson for aspiring Bitcoin scammers: When caught red-handed, just make up bizarre fairytales with shakespearean characters and amazing coincidences. You'll get a free pass and will be praised by the community.

It's a scam made up (fairly successfully) by AurumXchange. Look at who has the money right now: AurumXchange has my $40K and Mt. Gox has Bitcoinica creditors' over $2 million worth of Bitcoins. (I'm not saying Mt. Gox is wrong or anything. It's merely a fact.) I have nothing (and 5000 BTC LESS in my pocket).

Thank you for your sarcasm. I believe the free pass and praise will be more valuable if you identify the real scammer correctly.

zhoutong

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Quote from: greyhawk on April 23, 2013, 03:43:42 AM

Oh look who it is.

How is the Chinese relic hunter multi-billionaire triad boss über hacker?

Unfortunately he can't be reached any more. It's always easy to just go offline forever.

He did return majority of the funds, just not in the right combination of USD and BTC. I don't think he enjoys the incident. He is/was living in Heilongjiang Province, which is too cold for me to even travel there (I go to China only during fall or winter). I don't think the address is where he lives though.

I believe he was referring to you, could be wrong though.

Made up people often live in cold places. Just look at Santa.

Matthew the two time scammer tag troll you paid trying to make you look like the victim in all of this is not going to work out too well.

It would be best to assist in cleaning up your first mess (bitcoinica and its "hack") before you make a new project.

I'm pragmatic - I want to maximize my value for the community. Unfortunately there's really nothing much I can do to accelerate Bitcoinica's liquidation. I wasn't even a shareholder or creditor (so I can't sue them for compensation or anything).

So instead of hoping for the best with something I really don't have the capacity to do, I'm thinking of doing something that's 1) good for Bitcoin and 2) not requiring much trust.

bitclown

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Lesson for aspiring Bitcoin scammers: When caught red-handed, just make up bizarre fairytales with shakespearean characters and amazing coincidences. You'll get a free pass and will be praised by the community.

bennett616

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http://www.freebitcointips.co.uk/

Welcome back

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El Cabron

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Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on April 23, 2013, 04:59:28 AM

Quote from: zhoutong on April 23, 2013, 03:56:40 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on April 23, 2013, 03:43:42 AM

Oh look who it is.

How is the Chinese relic hunter multi-billionaire triad boss über hacker?

Unfortunately he can't be reached any more. It's always easy to just go offline forever.

He did return majority of the funds, just not in the right combination of USD and BTC. I don't think he enjoys the incident. He is/was living in Heilongjiang Province, which is too cold for me to even travel there (I go to China only during fall or winter). I don't think the address is where he lives though.

I believe he was referring to you, could be wrong though.

Made up people often live in cold places. Just look at Santa.

Matthew the two time scammer tag troll you paid trying to make you look like the victim in all of this is not going to work out too well.

It would be best to assist in cleaning up your first mess (bitcoinica and its "hack") before you make a new project.

cnbtcnews

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Welcome back

Remember remember the 5th of November

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Reverse engineer from time to time

Quote from: zhoutong on April 23, 2013, 03:56:40 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on April 23, 2013, 03:43:42 AM

Oh look who it is.

How is the Chinese relic hunter multi-billionaire triad boss über hacker?

Unfortunately he can't be reached any more. It's always easy to just go offline forever.

He did return majority of the funds, just not in the right combination of USD and BTC. I don't think he enjoys the incident. He is/was living in Heilongjiang Province, which is too cold for me to even travel there (I go to China only during fall or winter). I don't think the address is where he lives though.

I believe he was referring to you, could be wrong though.

greyhawk

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Yeah history has shown it to be extremely difficult sometimes to contact imaginary people.

zhoutong

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Quote from: greyhawk on April 23, 2013, 03:43:42 AM

Oh look who it is.

How is the Chinese relic hunter multi-billionaire triad boss über hacker?

Unfortunately he can't be reached any more. It's always easy to just go offline forever.

He did return majority of the funds, just not in the right combination of USD and BTC. I don't think he enjoys the incident. He is/was living in Heilongjiang Province, which is too cold for me to even travel there (I go to China only during fall or winter). I don't think the address is where he lives though.

zhoutong

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Quote from: bitdragon on April 23, 2013, 03:13:32 AM

Quote from: Elwar on April 23, 2013, 01:23:37 AM

You say that there is no place to short bitcoins but Bitfinex is up and running using your code from Bitcoinica.

Have you checked that out?

You can buy Put options through MPEX.
It's not quite the Addictive nature of margin trading ala bitcoinica but definitely has a place in a solid financial plan.
And dare I say that the security model inspires.

Yeah, I like MPEX's model. I think it'll inspire me a lot if I'm going to start another Bitcoin venture (IF).

zhoutong

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Quote from: Elwar on April 23, 2013, 01:23:37 AM

You say that there is no place to short bitcoins but Bitfinex is up and running using your code from Bitcoinica.

Have you checked that out?

Yes. I'm not so sure whether the code is based on Bitcoinica. Anyway, I think there's still no trading venue that has the amount of trades that Bitcoinica had. At its peak Bitcoinica had 150000 BTC open interest. That's what I mean by "viable way of shorting".

zhoutong

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Quote from: Transisto on April 23, 2013, 12:48:19 AM

Quote from: zhoutong on April 22, 2013, 09:55:08 PM

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I know a lot of people are being hurt by the incident. So is me. I really hope that my previous compensation was valuable and useful to the people being hurt. 5000 BTC at peak Bitcoin price was several multiples of Bitcoinica's sale price but I had no regret for doing something I could to help people in need....[/size]

Answer me this please.

The main reason Bitcoinica fund haven't been returned yet is because the database of who is owed what has "vanished".

How have you managed to pay a fair share of 5000btc to creditors if nobody else can ?

I had made a claim to you very early but, Your form was poorly constructed to account for open positions You didn't read the note field. And proceeded to full payment the day later.

You've skipped over my claim in the same way you've paid bogus claims.

I hold you and your imaginary friend "Chen" as the only suspect to that last theft (With a mountain of evidences).

Zhou can you please post a copy of your police report of your charges against Chen? Or did you not file a report because he is not a real person?

Neither. I didn't because I was not a victim. I didn't assume the obligation to do this as a former developer of Bitcoinica.

Also, he did return majority of the hacked funds, but in the wrong form of assets unfortunately (he sold some Bitcoins). In any case, almost all distributable assets are with Mt. Gox now. I'm not here to judge whether they should withhold the funds or not, as I don't know anything about the liquidator.

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