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Not only FUD :)
April 24, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
I had a question that repentance had answered previously, but I wanted to get clarification.

When AurumXChange locked up your funds (was it like $50,000?), you said they never gave it back (even to this day), but repentance said it wasn't your funds but your friends, so there is no way to get it back. Can you clarify?

Honestly, I don't care about those funds or your friend, I just don't like the idea of MtGox, AurumXChange, etc jacking funds from people whenever they personally feel it's legitimate to do so (without any legal request to do so) and then never answering questions about it later.

Where did that money even go?

I was doing a LR->USD exchange for a Singapore friend (total $100K, and $30K in XMLGold, $40K in AurumXChange, and the rest OTC). He paid me $100K in LR and I paid my friend $100K in full (taking a huge loss), so the $40K should be mine. It's a transfer from my LR account to my bank account. It's never a third-party transfer like some other said.

At that time, I told CJH (the Bitcoinica hacker) about AurumXChange's accusation (I had to tell). He decided to withhold $40K from the payment to Patrick Murck. I asked him not to, but he persisted. Later, he gave me a verified Alipay account with $40K equivalent in CNY. I didn't bother to touch the funds because AurumXChange was lying to me about their correspondence. (To date I still haven't received a single email from them, despite their false claims on the forum).

Now CJH is gone (phone: powered off, QQ: offline, email: no response) and the Alipay account got its password changed (most likely by him after withdrawing the funds).

So AurumXChange has succeeded in ripping off $40K by using the coincidence of Bitcoinica hack and my Singapore trip (I can even show anyone my passport stamps of leaving Australia during the hack, PM me). There was no AML investigation and I didn't receive anything.

I allowed them to send to Bitcoinica because I felt it's better in Bitcoinica creditors' hands rather than theirs. No matter how they feel about whether it's an insider job or not (it's not), they have my full consent to send money to Bitcoinica. (Even if it's really an insider job, the money should also be sent to Bitcoinica, with or without my consent). But they clearly didn't do anything and kept the funds for themselves.

I'm no longer mad at them but I still hope AurumXchange can do the right thing. I will take the reputation hit as a punishment for not choosing business partners carefully (the Bitcoinica Consultancy) and it's understandable that AurumXchange wanted to do good for the community by revealing suspects.

EDIT WITH PROOF:

Bitcoinica was hacked on July 13 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-mtgox-account-compromised-93074

Depart Australia:
(Passport Number blocked off)


Enter Australia:
(Passport Number blocked off)


Flight Ticket:
(Frequent Flyer number and Ticket number blocked off)
(Note that the original flight were oversold, so I travelled on the 14th of July instead of 13th.)



Everything you say will be used in the court.
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April 24, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
One thing I would say, if you are for real, Zhou, you picked a wrong company type to start over - domain registration requires twice as much trust.

First, to trust you with money and then to trust you with the domain name itself. And for purely online services, domain name is a crucial asset. So maybe you should start with something that involves tiny amounts of money and less trust.
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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
April 24, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
Good job on the age distraction, everyone. The documented multi-million dollar thefts are back under the rug again.

The age issue is definitely a distraction but not an intentional one.

No need for pitchforks and torches yet  Grin
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April 24, 2013, 07:35:42 AM
Good job on the age distraction, everyone. The documented multi-million dollar thefts are back under the rug again.
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April 24, 2013, 07:18:27 AM
Did I not say it wouldn't change a thing?  Grin

Well, my initial proposition was Ustream Q&A session precisely so we could "tap" his mighty brain in real time and make sure there's no other person Smiley

But this video is a good start.
vip
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April 24, 2013, 07:11:23 AM
Also, this article from The Business Times may be helpful:

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/premium/top-stories/epic-spore-tale-bitcoinica-20130423

Most of the content is behind the paywall, but the excerpt is good enough to get an idea of my identity, at least. You are welcome.
vip
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April 24, 2013, 07:09:47 AM
Neither. You just lost your bet.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-am-who-i-am-186261

Wait... What was your wager?

I didn't (carefully Smiley ) make any specific wagers, but Ok, $5 worth of bitcoins are coming your way, just for posting this video. It was worth it Smiley

Thanks for the coins. I really appreciate it and I promise will put it into good use, for Bitcoin.

I did it mostly for entertainment though. I just don't have the habit of recording myself and sharing with everyone. If I ever launch another Bitcoin product, I will definitely be happy to do a Skype video interview with Bitcoin Magazine or whatever Bitcoin-related media.
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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
April 24, 2013, 07:08:07 AM
That's a nice start. You've just got some partial credibility in my book now.

lol - I'm sure he'll be over the moon to hear that Wink


Of course, there is still a chance that your dad does all the writing and you only do "public appearances", but that sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory... Smiley

Did I not say it wouldn't change a thing?  Grin

Maybe you are who you claim to be, and there indeed exists that relic millionaire collector. Crazy things happen in life. Once in a while you see a movie about some incredible story that actually did happen.

Now you've swung too far the other way lol
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April 24, 2013, 05:57:25 AM
It's perhaps better for me to silently focus on my work and deliver something good for Bitcoin that doesn't require much trust. My reputation is pretty much ruined in this community regardless of how much evidence I bring to the table. (It's easy to blame people.)

You can help your reputation by doing a Q&A session on Ustream or even simply posting a long YouTube video.

What will be your excuse for that? Don't know how to use YouTube? Don't have webcamera? Don't have mobile phone? Or that it "won't prove anything"? Maybe it won't, but it's a good start if you really want to improve your reputation.

Instead, what I see is that you cherry pick posts to answer and ignore posts that are not so easy to answer.




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April 24, 2013, 05:54:46 AM
Neither. You just lost your bet.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-am-who-i-am-186261

Wait... What was your wager?

I didn't (carefully Smiley ) make any specific wagers, but Ok, $5 worth of bitcoins are coming your way, just for posting this video. It was worth it Smiley
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April 24, 2013, 05:47:26 AM
Holy shit! That was unexpected.

That's a nice start. You've just got some partial credibility in my book now.

And you must have had quite a life and be pretty smart too to write like an adult in your 18. I am surprised.

Of course, there is still a chance that your dad does all the writing and you only do "public appearances", but that sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory... Smiley

Maybe you are who you claim to be, and there indeed exists that relic millionaire collector. Crazy things happen in life. Once in a while you see a movie about some incredible story that actually did happen.



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April 24, 2013, 05:46:08 AM
That's pretty much all the available information I have. He returned almost all funds but in the wrong asset combination, and Bitcoinica failed to adjust the recovered funds to the right combination, as a result BTC liability has rocketed before the liquidation has shown any progress.

You know damned well that MtGox locked everyone out of the account after the intrusion and publicly stated that they weren't going to let anyone access the funds until the legal situation regarding who had the entitlement to distribute them was clarified.  But hey, let's just write a new narrative which makes you look like the hero, just like you always do.



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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
April 24, 2013, 05:38:03 AM
So let's see. My bet is that he will continue to either ignore any such requests or come up with more and more ridiculous excuses not to do it.

Either way, it will be entertaining to observe Smiley

Neither. You just lost your bet.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-am-who-i-am-186261

Wait... What was your wager?



You could have made your fortune right there!
vip
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April 24, 2013, 05:32:10 AM
So let's see. My bet is that he will continue to either ignore any such requests or come up with more and more ridiculous excuses not to do it.

Either way, it will be entertaining to observe Smiley

Neither. You just lost your bet.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-am-who-i-am-186261

Wait... What was your wager?

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April 24, 2013, 04:34:13 AM
I suggest that at the very least Zhou receives an "Untrustworthy" tag.

Good luck with THAT.  Zhou has paid off the forum.  Your coins are being used to update this forum's software.   Wink


Many a true word is spoken in jest.
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April 24, 2013, 04:06:47 AM
So let's see. My bet is that he will continue to either ignore any such requests or come up with more and more ridiculous excuses not to do it.

Either way, it will be entertaining to observe Smiley
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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
April 24, 2013, 03:59:02 AM
You just said he "will do things that put him in the firing line", now a youtube video is "not worth the effort"?

Don't get me wrong. He's done plenty to put himself in the firing line. I'm not saying he should continue to do that though. It's not worth the effort because it'd be easier for him to do a Skype with someone instead.

He has to start somewhere. We don't know much tangible about him. His explanations sound like a made-up fairy tales. So posting a video seems to me like a cheap and effective way to start dealing with trust issues. And dodging it on any excuse, is an effective way to reduce thrust.

Can't disagree there.

Skype would be a start, too. But with somebody really trusted by the community. Moderators are in a conflict of interest, because the forum gets some financial support from him as I understand.

The forum once had something like stationary or hardware that he paid for out of his own pocket but I believe it was before the fiasco. You're right though, to avoid any possibility of impropriety it should be someone not connected.

We should exclude Pirate.
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April 24, 2013, 03:50:45 AM
Will people believe the rest of his claims if his age is verified? I doubt it.

So the least interesting thing about this whole saga is verified and nothing else changes. I'd say that's almost not worth the effort.

You just said he "will do things that put him in the firing line", now a youtube video is "not worth the effort"?

He has to start somewhere. We don't know much tangible about him. His explanations sound like a made-up fairy tales. So posting a video seems to me like a cheap and effective way to start dealing with trust issues. And dodging it on any excuse, is an effective way to reduce thrust.

Additionally, if I were ZT I'd go for the Skype verification via a moderator. There are crazy, angry people out there who could use that video for any purpose :/

Skype would be a start, too. But with somebody really trusted by the community. Moderators are in a conflict of interest, because the forum gets some financial support from him as I understand.
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April 24, 2013, 03:36:40 AM
His behaviour is that of someone who wants to earn your trust and will do things that put him in the firing line by doing so.

So, recording a YouTube video would be no problem, right?

Let's see how it goes.

lol so you want to put him in the firing line?

I've never disagreed that doing a Youtube video would verify his age. I'm just sceptical as to who this placates and what exactly it'll prove.

Will people believe the rest of his claims if his age is verified? I doubt it.

So the least interesting thing about this whole saga is verified and nothing else changes. I'd say that's almost not worth the effort.

Additionally, if I were ZT I'd go for the Skype verification via a moderator. There are crazy, angry people out there who could use that video for any purpose :/
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April 24, 2013, 03:27:36 AM
His behaviour is that of someone who wants to earn your trust and will do things that put him in the firing line by doing so.

So, recording a YouTube video would be no problem, right?

Let's see how it goes.
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