Next gen that comes from Avalon or BFL... BOYCOTT.
Here is your chance. BFL just announced 28nm pre-orders. I am sure Avalon will too eventually.
Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 48. (Read 186808 times)
Here is your chance. BFL just announced 28nm pre-orders. I am sure Avalon will too eventually.
Or, I might get angry because the Christmas present I wanted to give my wife is stuck in some sorting office somewhere until after New Year.
How we chose to conduct ourselves when we face adversity is what defines us.
What a great thought! I've faced nearly overwhelming adversity in my life. And it faced it with dignity and courage, if I do say so myself.
Yet I still get mad if a Christmas present I ordered arrives too late, or if someone cheats me out a couple grand worth of bitcoin hardware. It's nothing compared to what I've already faced, but yet I get angry. It's funny how people are...
Thanks for the reminder
Now I just need to keep reminding myself: "How we chose to conduct ourselves when we face adversity is what defines us."
I see it as helping others. I don't think it will be fair to others to let this slide. When you have a certain knowledge, acting on it to help others is morally obligatory.
I find that is where we are.
Or, I might get angry because the Christmas present I wanted to give my wife is stuck in some sorting office somewhere until after New Year.
How we chose to conduct ourselves when we face adversity is what defines us.
What a great thought! I've faced nearly overwhelming adversity in my life. And it faced it with dignity and courage, if I do say so myself.
Yet I still get mad if a Christmas present I ordered arrives too late, or if someone cheats me out a couple grand worth of bitcoin hardware. It's nothing compared to what I've already faced, but yet I get angry. It's funny how people are...
Thanks for the reminder
Now I just need to keep reminding myself: "How we chose to conduct ourselves when we face adversity is what defines us."
People - wake up and smell the coffee. After weeks of silence, when users get ready to file
class action lawsuits - out of nowhere appears YIFU and posts a one-liner about shipping some
chips to calm the crowd and get his shills to defend his truly criminal actions. Please proceed
with legal action and hurt the little boy where it really matters to him - in his pocketbook.
class action lawsuits - out of nowhere appears YIFU and posts a one-liner about shipping some
chips to calm the crowd and get his shills to defend his truly criminal actions. Please proceed
with legal action and hurt the little boy where it really matters to him - in his pocketbook.
I say we use some of the refund money (or other) that will be coming back for legal action. Has anyone looked into this?
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Suggesting we use the refunds to engage in legal action against the company issuing the refunds seems like a less-than-ideal motivator for the company to actually issue the refunds, no?
Well, we can use our own funds if need be. And perhaps others throwing in their suggestions would assist here.
The thing is, do they want to dig a deeper hole? I mean they aren't going to say, "Sign this paper stating no legal action and then we will give you your money back."
That is almost admitting guilt. If anything like that happens, we need to "reach a settlement". A punitive one. But I'd rather involve a lawyers. Can't believe I just said that...
I'm in this small time but feel bad for the people who put lots of money in. Something should be done and I worry that if people just settle for refunds it gives the message of "It's ok to fuck the customer". After all the worst that happens is they give us back all that money and keep the highest bidders money. It is like the 1 billion dollar fine levied against Wachovia or HSBC for hundreds of billions in drug laundering... They must be thinking "Sign me up..."
I say we use some of the refund money (or other) that will be coming back for legal action. Has anyone looked into this?
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Suggesting we use the refunds to engage in legal action against the company issuing the refunds seems like a less-than-ideal motivator for the company to actually issue the refunds, no?
I say we use some of the refund money (or other) that will be coming back for legal action. Has anyone looked into this?
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Yifu ignored phone calls, messages, etc. The mafia was involved or whatever the story, but yet he logged in again and again leaving no messages. His actions have guilt written all over them.
I'll apologize if I'm in err, but the writing is on the wall regarding his inaction.
IAS
Yifu sell his chips at a price of ten times of the cost. Do a partial refund and ship asap!
Can't fuckin' believe some people in this thread, GIVE IT A REST!
We're all human an Bitsyncom guys are no different. If it helps, I had to wait 4 months for my Avalon to arrive, patiently and grinding my nails.
We're all human an Bitsyncom guys are no different. If it helps, I had to wait 4 months for my Avalon to arrive, patiently and grinding my nails.
at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)
Yifu, one of your team member is selling the chips on the private market, are you aware of that? Do you have any explanation why can someone can buy chips with 30% premium at late June and got the chips at early July? This is no fucking rumors, anyone is interested please PM ccmbc, he is one of the private buyers can buy from your team member. The whole "open source" community around the Avalon chips were ruined, including the infamous ASICME and yourself. IF you can ship on time or do something to compensate the loss caused by the delay, things will be much easier.
When I got the private offer back in the late June, I give no fucking shit about it. I just trust Avalon will ship on time. Now you are late, and the private offer arrived on time. It is very likely that the private seller will hit the 10th Sep promise again.
I ordered your chips in the first week, and you are late nearly 2 month now!
You dont want to know how many percent of your mining income is gone now because of that...
Isnt that strange, that nearly one month later when the first batches or lets say chips where shipped, a scond one with nearly the same amount of chips gets shipped ?
Looks more like someone did something totally wrong or want it to be this way.
So that means the next chips with ~ 130k chips will be sent next month and every month so on till all orders are delivered. Looks like there are no chips at customs at all.
Looks more like someone did something totally wrong or want it to be this way.
So that means the next chips with ~ 130k chips will be sent next month and every month so on till all orders are delivered. Looks like there are no chips at customs at all.
As always, they turned out to be scumbags.
At first I was really a believer, then I faced the evidence and now the shithole is full of their "asics on time, business done right".
Too late I figured that out, the real meaning of their slogan.
No good luck for You Yifu and others.
At first I was really a believer, then I faced the evidence and now the shithole is full of their "asics on time, business done right".
Too late I figured that out, the real meaning of their slogan.
No good luck for You Yifu and others.
I chose not to do business with BFL due to their history. And now after this Avalon/BitSyncom debacle, there is no way I will support them anymore.
To all that is aware, I suggest you do the same. These companies will come to us for our money, let's not feed the greed machines.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is shipping randomly..
Assuming yifu is telling the truth,,,how long should it normally take if the 130k chips just left the factory? are we back to 8-10weeks delivery time,,,,and anyone know what is the oldest order placed and by whom that hasn't received yet, and the following consecutive placed orders from that point? I thought someone was tabulating that in one of the threads....trying to get a start point all over again...
130K of chips are just 13 orders. thats nothing.
Zefir alone has 7 pending orders from april.
lol, this really sux,,,,only hope is that some of the fist 135 shipped cases are maybe still enroute. But it sure seems like its starting from square 1 here again.No, no, Zephir's had one batch already, remember?
Assuming yifu is telling the truth,,,how long should it normally take if the 130k chips just left the factory? are we back to 8-10weeks delivery time,,,,and anyone know what is the oldest order placed and by whom that hasn't received yet, and the following consecutive placed orders from that point? I thought someone was tabulating that in one of the threads....trying to get a start point all over again...
130K of chips are just 13 orders. thats nothing.
Zefir alone has 7 pending orders from april.
lol, this really sux,,,,only hope is that some of the fist 135 shipped cases are maybe still enroute. But it sure seems like its starting from square 1 here again. 
As always, they turned out to be scumbags.
At first I was really a believer, then I faced the evidence and now the shithole is full of their "asics on time, business done right".
Too late I figured that out, the real meaning of their slogan.
No good luck for You Yifu and others.
At first I was really a believer, then I faced the evidence and now the shithole is full of their "asics on time, business done right".
Too late I figured that out, the real meaning of their slogan.
No good luck for You Yifu and others.
Assuming yifu is telling the truth,,,how long should it normally take if the 130k chips just left the factory? are we back to 8-10weeks delivery time,,,,and anyone know what is the oldest order placed and by whom that hasn't received yet, and the following consecutive placed orders from that point? I thought someone was tabulating that in one of the threads....trying to get a start point all over again...
130K of chips are just 13 orders. thats nothing.
Zefir alone has 7 pending orders from april.
Assuming yifu is telling the truth,,,how long should it normally take if the 130k chips just left the factory? are we back to 8-10weeks delivery time,,,,and anyone know what is the oldest order placed and by whom that hasn't received yet, and the following consecutive placed orders from that point? I thought someone was tabulating that in one of the threads....trying to get a start point all over again...
I ordered your chips in the first week, and you are late nearly 2 month now!
So typical for preorder based model, Avalon should not make delivery time promise, but instead best case scenario for delivery.
I would like to hear what Yifu has to say about this.
Im affraid, but no one will read 60 pages of complaints.
Depends what kind of legal letterhead you use for your complaint.
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