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Topic: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 - page 69. (Read 186691 times)

legendary
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August 11, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html
Lets form a group buy and see if they deliver Smiley j/k -----of course they are in China
hero member
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August 11, 2013, 11:02:12 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html

Prove it, get them to send you a single sample chip.

I'll bet they can't deliver.

May also notice the thieves on Alibaba are also selling 60gh BFL singles and Block Erupters for $168



It has been discussed before
http://www.alibaba.com/help/safety_security/products/escrow.html
hero member
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August 11, 2013, 10:58:13 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html

Prove it, get them to send you a single sample chip.

I'll bet they can't deliver.

May also notice the thieves on Alibaba are also selling 60gh BFL singles and Block Erupters for $168

legendary
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August 11, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
Somebody should open a group buy for a good lawyer.

Maybe Yifu will deliever faster. If he doesnt, well, we can always sue his ass.
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
What a load of BS, since when does a late shipment qualify as stealing?

Since when he is not allowed to engage in legal actions?

I starting to notice that you and others participants are trying to deter people to undertake legitimate ways to compensate their loss.

So, explain to us, why are you and others criticizing people which is trying to find a way to enforce their side of the agreement?
Because he and others are "in" on the "delay". Over in the TH thread, the only two guys who are trying to deter talk are the guys who visited TH to prove to us they were legit. This same thing was noticed in another operation - that those who visited the site were trying to defend the "business" who was not delivering on their promise.

You will get your miner, you will just get it so late that the other guys who planned this whole thing will benefit greatly from your delay and you will never see the returns you should have. they have already planned to obsolete you with the gen 2 offerings so that your hashing will be like a flea bite relative to their new miners they purchase with their "profits". They are too smart to totally directly f you over.
legendary
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August 11, 2013, 10:49:20 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html

Do you know that they can?

-MarkM-
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 10:45:54 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html

This may have more to do with the people who work at the chip company running extra batches for themselves, which is STOP in China.
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 10:44:09 AM
Anybody know why Shenzhen Goldtech Electronics Co. can supply 100,000 Avalon chips per month?
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/994289436/Avalon_chip_A3256_Q48_avalon_asic.html
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 10:42:30 AM

Here you are
1. I have at risk many of my friends funds, I have my name and face at risk. I've done a mining farm project for people I know IRL.
I introduced Bitcoin to them(most of them don't have wallets yet), I spend a lot of time explaining everything and gaining their trust.
feel free to take a look, quickly jump through those pages

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4YXCoAvifBdGRRSk02NkZtM1FrbHN0elIwZ0t2SlE#gid=1

2. I don't make any projections, I am not a greedy person. But if someone is stealing from me, by not allowing me to even gain back what I initially invested then something is clearly wrong.

3. Easy game: noticing authorities, hiring lawyer, request refund in law manner, yifu with huge fine or behind bars with Pirateat40, new bitsyncom investor noticed about shady practices breaks the deal, Yifu stuck with outdated 40nm chips, no money and a trial.
That's what he should get for stealing from bitcoin community. For all those lies, shipping delays, alibaba chips, refund delays, calculating price based on ROI and not delivering in promised time. I still  can't understand how 1 person could scam so many people and get away with it.

He should be buried in every possible way,there is no place to show who is better person now.
For me if someone screws you and you do nothing you are either spineless or Jesus.

What a load of BS, since when does a late shipment qualify as stealing?


Because of the inherent time-sensitive nature of what we are ordering. Getting your chips late is like not getting them at all since their entire practical use is time-dependent. Its like selling someone some eggs, having them pay for the upfront and delivering them when they are rotten. You just stole their money. People bought on the assumption they would have been delivered by now.

Where are all the wuss-bags who put in on these group orders? We have heard from like 20 people on this thread - there should be hundreds.
hero member
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August 11, 2013, 10:41:16 AM

Here you are
1. I have at risk many of my friends funds, I have my name and face at risk. I've done a mining farm project for people I know IRL.
I introduced Bitcoin to them(most of them don't have wallets yet), I spend a lot of time explaining everything and gaining their trust.
feel free to take a look, quickly jump through those pages

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4YXCoAvifBdGRRSk02NkZtM1FrbHN0elIwZ0t2SlE#gid=1

2. I don't make any projections, I am not a greedy person. But if someone is stealing from me, by not allowing me to even gain back what I initially invested then something is clearly wrong.

3. Easy game: noticing authorities, hiring lawyer, request refund in law manner, yifu with huge fine or behind bars with Pirateat40, new bitsyncom investor noticed about shady practices breaks the deal, Yifu stuck with outdated 40nm chips, no money and a trial.
That's what he should get for stealing from bitcoin community. For all those lies, shipping delays, alibaba chips, refund delays, calculating price based on ROI and not delivering in promised time. I still  can't understand how 1 person could scam so many people and get away with it.

He should be buried in every possible way,there is no place to show who is better person now.
For me if someone screws you and you do nothing you are either spineless or Jesus.

What a load of BS, since when does a late shipment qualify as stealing?



late shipment isn't in fact stealing, but late shipment with using our funds for others purposes + delivering chips somewhere else + posting some BS only when it gets really hot + calculating price based on ROI and backstage releasing next gen chips qualify as stealing. Other words you paid for a car to participate in a race, car dealer delivers your car after the race has started (at the time working on next gen car to be delivered to competitors), therefore he has broke the contract and stole your money even that you got that car now.

here it is really well said:
Yes, lets admit it: our expectations were set too high. We paid for something 4 months ago, didnt recieve any support or update for months...still have not recieved our products...all this because we were naive an stupid, not because we are dealing with scammers.

erk
hero member
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August 11, 2013, 10:28:06 AM

Here you are
1. I have at risk many of my friends funds, I have my name and face at risk. I've done a mining farm project for people I know IRL.
I introduced Bitcoin to them(most of them don't have wallets yet), I spend a lot of time explaining everything and gaining their trust.
feel free to take a look, quickly jump through those pages

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4YXCoAvifBdGRRSk02NkZtM1FrbHN0elIwZ0t2SlE#gid=1

2. I don't make any projections, I am not a greedy person. But if someone is stealing from me, by not allowing me to even gain back what I initially invested then something is clearly wrong.

3. Easy game: noticing authorities, hiring lawyer, request refund in law manner, yifu with huge fine or behind bars with Pirateat40, new bitsyncom investor noticed about shady practices breaks the deal, Yifu stuck with outdated 40nm chips, no money and a trial.
That's what he should get for stealing from bitcoin community. For all those lies, shipping delays, alibaba chips, refund delays, calculating price based on ROI and not delivering in promised time. I still  can't understand how 1 person could scam so many people and get away with it.

He should be buried in every possible way,there is no place to show who is better person now.
For me if someone screws you and you do nothing you are either spineless or Jesus.

What a load of BS, since when does a late shipment qualify as stealing?

hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
August 11, 2013, 10:11:29 AM
Anyone seen this?

【Avalon Factory】made by ccbmc!50PCS 110G 4# avalon mining Has shipped!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/avalon-oem-factorymade-by-ccbmc50pcs-oem-110g-4-avalon-mining-has-shipped-271629

It seems someone has received a batch outside of Zefir.

Was the person who received in same country?  That would mean no customs troubles.

 
Sure. Other  orders got stuck on the way out of china.

Roll Eyes


Those photos are BS. The photos are from a month ago. That same ID card picture has been posted on this forum before.

EDIT: These ARE the old photos mixed with a mid July screen capture. Nothing new here.
hero member
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August 11, 2013, 10:06:00 AM


I have a few questions for pajak666.
1.  How much do you have at risk?
2.  How much did you project that you would make in the next year from item #1?
3.  What action, that is possible today, will satisfy you?



Here you are
1. I have at risk many of my friends funds, I have my name and face at risk. I've done a mining farm project for people I know IRL.
I introduced Bitcoin to them(most of them don't have wallets yet), I spend a lot of time explaining everything and gaining their trust.
feel free to take a look, quickly jump through those pages

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq4YXCoAvifBdGRRSk02NkZtM1FrbHN0elIwZ0t2SlE#gid=1

2. I don't make any projections, I am not a greedy person. But if someone is stealing from me, by not allowing me to even gain back what I initially invested then something is clearly wrong.

3. Easy game: noticing authorities, hiring lawyer, request refund in law manner, yifu with huge fine or behind bars with Pirateat40, new bitsyncom investor noticed about shady practices breaks the deal, Yifu stuck with outdated 40nm chips, no money and a trial.
That's what he should get for stealing from bitcoin community. For all those lies, shipping delays, alibaba chips, refund delays, calculating price based on ROI and not delivering in promised time. I still  can't understand how 1 person could scam so many people and get away with it.

He should be buried in every possible way,there is no place to show who is better person now.
For me if someone screws you and you do nothing you are either spineless or Jesus.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Hodl!
August 11, 2013, 09:02:00 AM


Yup, I had some misc parts ship a couple of weeks back and it said right on the tracking info they got inspected before they left  Huh
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
legendary
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August 11, 2013, 08:27:14 AM
Yes, lets admit it: our expectations were set too high. We paid for something 4 months ago, didnt recieve any support or update for months...still have not recieved our products...all this because we were naive an stupid, not because we are dealing with scammers.
hero member
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..yeah
August 11, 2013, 08:15:20 AM
hero member
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 08:04:12 AM
Can we stick to the point? Or are we now all suddenly exchanging life experiences?
sr. member
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August 11, 2013, 07:27:22 AM

I guess you two ordered like 2 chips together? 1 x K1 for each of you?
I can not believe that someone with larger ammount of chips stolen would make such comments.

pajak666 has been sending me PMs.  He seems very unhappy with my posting content.  This post may not make him happier.

I won't reveal a PM; however I point out that my avatar is my real image, and my nick is clearly related to my real life identity.  I stand behind what I post.

I also spent about 10-15 years being very angry, and the justification for that anger was strong.  But anger only eats up the angry person from the inside.  I have been cheated, I have been slandered, I have been shot; anger kept me tied in the past, to events that were a permanent part of my history and which I could not change.  I have chosen that I will go forward in a productive way.  I will make my decisions on what is, and not what I believe should have been.

I have made a real life decision that no amount of angst about bitcoins will match:  I had the death penalty decision in a Texas court about the man who shot us in my lap.  From that perspective, many postings here are temper tantrums from whiny children who need to grow up.

I originally thought I could make perhaps $16,000 / month with each Batch #2 Avalon delivered in March.  That money would have been very helpful in my life.  I am personally in touch with the reality and the implications of shipping delays.

I have a few questions for pajak666.
1.  How much do you have at risk?
2.  How much did you project that you would make in the next year from item #1?
3.  What action, that is possible today, will satisfy you?

If you cannot be satisfied, then you are the troll.  If you can be satisfied, then articulate what you want.  Keep in mind that it will not seem feasible to receive chips tomorrow, nor to receive a refund yesterday.  

Also, with no regard whatsoever as to whether you believe Yufi, it will work best for you to read his words exactly and to construct your responses as if they are literally true.  If they are true, then you are ahead of the game.  If they are not true, you will maneuver him into a corner.  In time, more facts will emerge;  I plan not to look the fool when they do.

If his words are true and you spread FUD, you, and not he, are the bad actor.

As someone who has been shot and watched a daughter die, I have a very hard line on postings that advocate violence.  They are across the line.  No amount of hand waving that they are a joke or you were angry, or thoughtless, or drunk, or that you apologize will repair their cumulative damage.  They are simply wrong.

With no regard whatsoever to the idea that I have been harmed to the level of $16,000 or $30,000 by shipping delays, it harms the future value of my bitcoins for the community to act like jerks.  If bitcoins are a niche thing that only angry anarchist use, they are wortheless, and if our community postings make us seem that way, we jeopardize the adoption in real commerce and it would not matter whether you can mine today or not.  

Quit peeing in the pool.





I would add some of my experience through life what have I learned.

For every bad thing that is happening to us, are we alone responsible. The life runs in two ways. There are two type of people. The first one (95%), are trying tackle the consequences, are looking for penalties, reasons how that happen to them, looking for guilty one, blame other. The second one (5%) are people who learn life ways. They know that if one thing happen to them, many times, they obviouslly do something wrong (illnes for example). They are responsible for what they do and they know the risk, which THEY ALONE TAKE.

This is one of the really good values to have in life. And everything around good human values, happynes, love, health, relationships, can be learned.

The mentality of people just went to far. While we should be looking on ourselfs, our sight is oriented on others.

Now if I take this lesson, I can write down: Everyone here pissed, can blame only himslef. If you want to be happy you should look at the source of the problem add some responsibility and remove expectations.
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