Topic: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W - page 30. (Read 55224 times)

Sorry to butt in guys, but is there any word on a smaller version of this ASIC miner? Seems like a sweet deal, but I'm not really willing to shell out half of the BTC I own for this... At the moment, it's just a tough risk to take for me.

This company/group(EHS Miner) has been working on these miners for 3 years and produced exactly NOTHING.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/french-asic-miner-company-ehsminercom-573712
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ehs-miner-coming-soon-1769328

This now generic ASIC miner picture has been floating around in this forum for what, around 2 years?

The last time (2 weeks ago?) I believe was in the computer hardware for sale topic from a different front company as a LTC ASIC miner.

So the scam-o-meter should be reading > 90%. Fake ASIC miners can really push buttons.

Quite a bump, waiting for my D11 and D3, cross fingers

Mmmmm. Yes please

Anyone heard of these guys before?

https://www.ehsminer.com/product/ehs-asic-scrypt-miner-vi/

Thanks for your feedback.

I am expecting mine to arrive by 10th August so lets hope i make my ROI in 1 t 2 months and that is very much possible based on scneario that Innosillicon monsters and Bitmain's D3 won't be shipping before October 1st.

And in worst case the ROI will be in 3 months, but lets hope for best i am hoping for 1.5 month ROI period

Lets hope for best i will share when i get mine. 

If a manufacturer would prefer to keep devices with themselves for 1 month ROI then why not for 3 month ROI ?
.....Remember even now manufacturer's keep some for themselves but they can't keep all, its a volatile market afterall and they have to make some sales to fund next version of their miners.

Its all about we miners raising our voices and telling Mining equipment manufacturers to provide it for no more than 2 months ROI and again 1 month ideally speaking.

I think the preorder iBelinks are supposed to ship end of the week time frame if they ship on time.  I suspect they may get them about the same time as the people who have been ordering directly from the site at this point.  Should be interesting to see this horse race.

The issue I have is with all the sellers of the Baikal 300's. Those are going for a bare minimum of $1500, but only earn about $5/day according to coinwarz.
That's a full 300 days ROI, which is crazy given the difficulty predictions for the next few months.
A 90-day ROI would make these miners worth about $500 at best.
Same issue with any of the X11 rigs out there today. Sellers are pushing rigs with super-high ROI price points.
Best Baikal is the new 2GH rigs from the manufacturer. They ROI is about 7 months compared to 11-12 months for retail Baikal 300's
And, all these ROI numbers assume no difficulty change.

Wouldnt everyone like machines that roi in a max of 1 month for ever.  At that point manufacturers will just keep them.  It will always level itself out between seller and buyer and 1 month rois are few and far between

 No, they've been very closed about that - but so have ALL of the other miner manufacturers for ANY ASIC-based mining machines.



 The iBeLinks aren't going to achieve ROI in 2 months - it's already been almost that long since they were sold out and they don't appear to have shipped a significant number of them yet (and if they have shipped any it was to the folks that ordered back in May or so when they first went on pre-order).

 They *might* achieve ROI in 2 months of OPERATION if they start arriving before the end of the July, but when it takes someone 2-3 months to even GET the miner that's NOT a "2 month ROI".

 They're also going to bump the total network hashrate up a LOT before Bitmain or Innosilicon even START shipping the D3 / A5 at all, which will make it take longer for THOSE miners to achieve ROI - and THOSE miners are looking at 2 months or more of "pre-order delay" before THEY start shipping, presuming Bitmain and Innosilicon meet their announced shipping dates (Bitmain has a pretty good record there, Innosilicon is mixed).

Every new vision and unprecedented objectives were once declared as 'unicorns' but time proved that with unity everything is possible. 

And yes also this unicorn exist already Take example those who purchased iBeLink on time are now expecting to recover ROI in 1.5 to 2 months
Similarly those who ordered D3 on time are also expecting to recover ROI in 2 months at most. 

 Good luck finding such a unicorn.

Yes its all about ROI , in such volatile market i recommend to buy a device with ROI of maximum 1 month or in dire need 2 month, because what you see now is going to be very different when you start mining and with massive equipment to flow in the market will increase the difficulty tons of time.

Yes, how is relatively simple, but yet it still gets ignored.  How to attach a diff rise to this number of monster miners is pure guess work.  Good luck wrapping numbers around this.   

I just stopped guessing.  If you can get in early you might see a decent ROI, other than that it will become a long game fast.

No they did not, this is my estimate based on monitoring their possible tests connected with higher hash rates so the number comes to 5000 plus

How difficulty affects earnings seems relatively simple (higher difficulty = lower earnings), putting numbers to upcoming difficulty increases is what seems to not be obvious. I still think there might be some gleanable insights from the available data, maybe I'll spend some time with it and if anything fruitful arises I'll report back.

There is just no realistic way to do this.  If you go back historically and look at a chart you would have to know how many miners came online at a given time, what was the capability of that miner to even get a wild guess as to the impact of just one manufacturers miners coming online. 

Now suddenly you have several miner manufacturers launching MEGA size miners all on the network at once?  The first onslaught will start here in the next couple of weeks when the first huge batches of the iBelinks hit the network.  Again we don't know how many miners are in this first bunch of batches so hard judge what you are going to get.

Now add Baikal, Bitmain, and Innosilicon to the mix and frankly this is a free for all of massive scale.  Any numbers you see right now or can produce are purely a WILD guess, but rest assured in about 60-90 days you will see profitability collapse and will only be profitable for a short while for those who obtained these miners in the first batches.  It will look pretty sweet to those who were in that first batch of iBelink miners I think, or even the Giant+ miners for a little bit, but if you watch the diff go straight off the chart those pie in the sky numbers that everyone is drooling over will vanish pretty quick.

I think this is one of the oddest things for newbies and even some old timers to get is how difficulty impacts earnings, and when you have an all out assault on X11 like this it is going to be nothing short of mind boggling.  It is an arms race right now for X11 miners.  Sit back, grab the popcorn because your about to get the definition of UGLY with this diff increase.