Topic: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion - page 16. (Read 8123 times)

Quote from: bisdak40 on May 19, 2022, 05:26:56 PM

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I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

Same here, if Donaire could time perfectly that counter left hook flush on Inoue's chin, there's a chance that the former will knockout Inoue. Backing Donaire in this fight but I'm not expecting so much as Inoue will also be preparing hard on this fight because he already knows the capability of his opponent as he already tasted that left hook that almost sent him down so expect him to be avoiding those as long as possible.

For sure Inoue and his camp will be preparing for that left hook that almost send him down, Donaire can imitate that same style and if luck permits and opportunities open up for him, Donaire will not waste his time and will try all the best that he got to bring the monster down.

Sparing spare money to back Donaire is a good idea while watching the fight. It will add more excitement during the fight.

Bet the amount that you can afford to lose, right?

Don't worry about a small bet because with the big odds of Donaire, it will give you a good return. I'm also doing the same to support our Filipino boxer, and though many people believe that Donaire is already old, I still believe he has the power to go toe to toe with Inoue and could possibly KO him as he did in his pas opponents.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 19, 2022, 10:28:41 PM

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I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

Same here, if Donaire could time perfectly that counter left hook flush on Inoue's chin, there's a chance that the former will knockout Inoue. Backing Donaire in this fight but I'm not expecting so much as Inoue will also be preparing hard on this fight because he already knows the capability of his opponent as he already tasted that left hook that almost sent him down so expect him to be avoiding those as long as possible.

For sure Inoue and his camp will be preparing for that left hook that almost send him down, Donaire can imitate that same style and if luck permits and opportunities open up for him, Donaire will not waste his time and will try all the best that he got to bring the monster down.

Sparing spare money to back Donaire is a good idea while watching the fight. It will add more excitement during the fight.

Bet the amount that you can afford to lose, right?

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@Fatunad. There is no see. I like Nonito Donaire, I am a fan of him and I reckon he is a much better boxer in style compared to Manny Pacquiao. If Donaire had the same speed, power and determination of Pacman, I reckon he would also certainly be a champion of many weight divisions. However, Inoue is clearly stronger than Donaire. I also posted before an exaggeration that Donaire will be knocked out and brought out of the ring on a stretcher hehe. It appears many people did not like this and I was not antagonizing anyone. This is only to express that Inoue will be very hard for Donaire. The odds for Inoue, however, is very bad for betting. Rounds betting might bet the only way to be this or Inoue with a knockout win.

Honestly, the majority of Filipinos already know and understand the distance between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire. We are not ignoring the reality and facts that Inoue has all the advantages. However, it doesn't mean that Donaire can't pull an upset against the Japanese monster.

I have to disagree with you that Donaire needs to have the same determination as Pacquiao. Is that even possible to have the same level of determination as other boxers? Obviously, a big no as different boxers has a different approach and inspiration for their own career.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 19, 2022, 10:28:41 PM

I also posted before an exaggeration that Donaire will be knocked out and brought out of the ring on a stretcher hehe. It appears many people did not like this and I was not antagonizing anyone.

Naoya Inoue was sent to the hospital right away after the fight as he received heavy damage from Donaire.

The first time in his career. The first time for him to struggle in a match.

That's the reason why upset is always possible to happen.

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@Fatunad. There is no see. I like Nonito Donaire, I am a fan of him and I reckon he is a much better boxer in style compared to Manny Pacquiao. If Donaire had the same speed, power and determination of Pacman, I reckon he would also certainly be a champion of many weight divisions. However, Inoue is clearly stronger than Donaire. I also posted before an exaggeration that Donaire will be knocked out and brought out of the ring on a stretcher hehe. It appears many people did not like this and I was not antagonizing anyone. This is only to express that Inoue will be very hard for Donaire. The odds for Inoue, however, is very bad for betting. Rounds betting might bet the only way to be this or Inoue with a knockout win.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on May 19, 2022, 05:26:56 PM

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I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

Same here, if Donaire could time perfectly that counter left hook flush on Inoue's chin, there's a chance that the former will knockout Inoue. Backing Donaire in this fight but I'm not expecting so much as Inoue will also be preparing hard on this fight because he already knows the capability of his opponent as he already tasted that left hook that almost sent him down so expect him to be avoiding those as long as possible.

Executing a perfect counter would be the best thing to be done but how he would really be doing it? For sure Inoue is really fully aware on how Donaire do really get its popularity and name
which is on fast counter speed and execution which is something that he's fully aware of and cant really just be denied that its really a dangerous one.
For now lets see if Donaire would able to do such thing and for him to be able to win up such fight and possible trilogy would happen.

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Quote from: Sanitough on May 18, 2022, 11:28:12 AM

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I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

Same here, if Donaire could time perfectly that counter left hook flush on Inoue's chin, there's a chance that the former will knockout Inoue. Backing Donaire in this fight but I'm not expecting so much as Inoue will also be preparing hard on this fight because he already knows the capability of his opponent as he already tasted that left hook that almost sent him down so expect him to be avoiding those as long as possible.

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Quote from: terrorJR on May 18, 2022, 10:16:51 AM

at least in this case it must be tried in every round considering that Inoue's endurance is also quite strong and I rarely even see him fall even though he is already battered.
it would be very good if indeed the shots that were fired did not miss and wasted energy because this apart from giving him a habit and would be easy to read, this would also waste energy

Donaire has to do it quick like what he did in his previous fight where the find end below 6 rounds.
Inoue here is going to be a heavy favorite, looks like a big disrespect for Donaire because he is also a champion, but that's how the overall fans are seeing it. here's the odds for those who don't know yet, https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/naoya-inoue-vs-nonito-donaire-2-odds/

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Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 2 Odds
Boxer   Odds
Naoya Inoue   -550
Nonito Donaire   +350

I'm afraid this will be difficult to happen when the opponent facing is Inoue. Their first match had to be decided on a matter of count and even though Inoue had suffered some serious injuries especially in the face he was still going strong and continued to stand until the end of the Round.
not impossible now will be the same. Even though Donaire is currently quite strong but I still won't doubt Inoue's durability

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 06, 2022, 12:16:34 AM

He can go up in weight, win the belt and hopefully Inoue too will go up, so the clash might happen in the future.

That will happen if Casimero and Inoue will become champions in the same weight class.
As soon as Inoue is done collecting all the belts, he will be like Canelo Alvarez that will go up in weight.

Quote from: Kemarit on May 06, 2022, 12:16:34 AM

But for now, Casimero will have to work his way to be the challenger to the belt. If he chooses to stay in bantam, then maybe he will be rank as number 1 so who knows, he might get crack at Butler and get back his belt. But that is base on WBO, if they still want Casimero and allow him to fight and force the hands of Butler and his management.

So much job that has to be done for Casimero, but letting go and accepting what happen is a good start.

There are many possibilities that both of them have, but I think more about a fight in the future where they have more weight, I know that Casimero's case is totally unrelated, but we have to bring them here to see the relevance of the facts that we can see if these scenarios they happen, for me it's a good thing, I always want to see good boxing, and what better than to see these sports artists, not only for me but for many fans who want to see the best, and I think that Inoue appears among the best For me he is a very complete boxer and he has a lot to give, this is really getting good.

I will just make it short though, Casimero is good but I wouldn't say that he is a complete fighter.

As for whoever wins between Donaire and Inoue, we all know that Inoue will be the favorite, but Donaire is the only fighter we've seen the comes close to beating him. So he still has a fighting chance it ever he plays a perfect game plan against Inoue in their fight. And if by chance Donaire wins, I think there will be a final match, a trilogy.

It is that this is the trilogy that everyone talks about and that everyone wants, we could say that Donaire has a lot to gain and little to lose, if everyone expects Inoue's victory it could be that the statistics favor him without a doubt, but Taking into consideration that Donaire will not let himself be won easily because he already has experience with him, I think he will have already made his strategy, and maybe it could be a surprise, I would not rule out a possible knockout, although anything can happen in boxing is open the possibility that it happens.

Inoue, for his part, only knows Donaire's way of fighting, there are many vulnerabilities that he already knows about Donaire, which he will take advantage of.

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Quote from: terrorJR on May 18, 2022, 10:16:51 AM

Indeed! That counter left hook will still be his specialty and weapon of choice as he's more used to it, now is not the right time to have some experiment on what should be his special card to Inoue, he should use what is on his possession and his best asset. Finding the perfect timing when to land it will be difficult because if he cannot land it properly, Inoue will just shake it just like what he did in their previous fight.

I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

at least in this case it must be tried in every round considering that Inoue's endurance is also quite strong and I rarely even see him fall even though he is already battered.
it would be very good if indeed the shots that were fired did not miss and wasted energy because this apart from giving him a habit and would be easy to read, this would also waste energy

Donaire has to do it quick like what he did in his previous fight where the find end below 6 rounds.
Inoue here is going to be a heavy favorite, looks like a big disrespect for Donaire because he is also a champion, but that's how the overall fans are seeing it. here's the odds for those who don't know yet, https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/naoya-inoue-vs-nonito-donaire-2-odds/

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Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 2 Odds
Boxer   Odds
Naoya Inoue   -550
Nonito Donaire   +350

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Indeed! That counter left hook will still be his specialty and weapon of choice as he's more used to it, now is not the right time to have some experiment on what should be his special card to Inoue, he should use what is on his possession and his best asset. Finding the perfect timing when to land it will be difficult because if he cannot land it properly, Inoue will just shake it just like what he did in their previous fight.

I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

at least in this case it must be tried in every round considering that Inoue's endurance is also quite strong and I rarely even see him fall even though he is already battered.
it would be very good if indeed the shots that were fired did not miss and wasted energy because this apart from giving him a habit and would be easy to read, this would also waste energy

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I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.

Most of us here who followed Donaire already know how lethal that counter left hook of his which I think will still be his weapon of choice, he only needs to land it at the perfect timing and you are right, he needs to watch that gas tank of his so that he still has some left in the championship rounds which is very critical for both fighters as either one of them will go for that knockout.

Indeed! That counter left hook will still be his specialty and weapon of choice as he's more used to it, now is not the right time to have some experiment on what should be his special card to Inoue, he should use what is on his possession and his best asset. Finding the perfect timing when to land it will be difficult because if he cannot land it properly, Inoue will just shake it just like what he did in their previous fight.

I still believe that Donaire can still defeat Inoue with a right pace and timing.

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Most of us here who followed Donaire already know how lethal that counter left hook of his which I think will still be his weapon of choice, he only needs to land it at the perfect timing and you are right, he needs to watch that gas tank of his so that he still has some left in the championship rounds which is very critical for both fighters as either one of them will go for that knockout.

Early rounds are very crucial. I'm 100% comfortable that Donaire can take down Inoue in the early rounds and can repeat again the damage he gives to the Japanese monster during their first round. But as the fight will continue to last more, Donaire might have a problem with his stamina and Inoue will have a chance again to recover in the late rounds.

Another problem is, Inoue is already aware of how deadly Donaire is in the early rounds. He will surely do everything not to have to experience the same injury he received in the early rounds that make him slow down.

Regardless of my thoughts, Donaire already knows what he is lacking in this fight. Currently, or maybe for a long, he's now preparing for some changes and improvement.

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I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.

Most of us here who followed Donaire already know how lethal that counter left hook of his which I think will still be his weapon of choice, he only needs to land it at the perfect timing and you are right, he needs to watch that gas tank of his so that he still has some left in the championship rounds which is very critical for both fighters as either one of them will go for that knockout.

Right, his left hook will still be his main weapon of choice, in the first fight, he may have landed it and I think this is the punch that cause Inoue's orbital broke to be broken.

But this time, it should land perfectly on the chin and let's see if Inoue's can hold it again. Because I think Donaire has somewhat put a dent already when he injured him just a matter of landing it flush again and maybe we can see him scoring a knock down or even a knock out.

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I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.

Most of us here who followed Donaire already know how lethal that counter left hook of his which I think will still be his weapon of choice, he only needs to land it at the perfect timing and you are right, he needs to watch that gas tank of his so that he still has some left in the championship rounds which is very critical for both fighters as either one of them will go for that knockout.

if he cant KO inoue at the early rounds, then high likely, inoue may possibly win via UD. that is, if inoue won't KO donaire. at least what am seeing in this match, is that both boxers have respect with each other, no trash talk as i think, donaire is like a mentor to inoue. however, on the other hand, casimero who was seriously running after inoue still need to fix himself with this weight issues.

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