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Quote from: freedomgo on May 08, 2022, 01:37:36 PM

There is a high chance that there will be a trilogy if Donaire will win on their rematch next month as their standings would be tied to 1-1 but if Inoue will still be the last man standing then I think he will go for Butler and go up to another division after he defeats Donaire and Butler respectively. In the past, Casimero is included to his plan but now that Casimero has been stripped of his WBO belt, I don't certainly think that Inoue will be interested to him anymore.

Honestly, there's no other fight that should be arranged but a trilogy if ever Nonito Donaire wins this rematch against Naoya Inoue. It's like the chapter of them should now be close for good. For sure, once the winner of this rematch is announced, and let's say it's Donaire the winner, Inoue will immediately ask for a rematch on the post-interview and Donaire will gladly accept it right away.

The boxing association won't miss the opportunity to make another round of money so if ever Nonito wins this fight, we can possibly see another rematch between the two. Trilogy often happens when the fight record between two boxers is 1-1.

I stumbled upon an article recently that Paul Butler might take a shot at challenging the winner of Inoue and Donaire. However, WBO might assign him to defend his title first but it's still unknown who will be his next opponent.

This would be an interesting fight since this match will unify the whole division.

Quote from: blockman on May 07, 2022, 06:31:21 PM

Back to Inoue and Donaire, both have an experience dealing with Casimero thru heated exchanges but they didn't release a statement or opinion yet regarding Casimero's strip title. Maybe for them, it's better to be silent for good.

Probably, they don't care at all unless some reporter asks their opinion about it.

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Quote from: harizen on May 02, 2022, 05:36:42 PM

About casimero I don't think if he get the 100% sure support by the crowd after these issues. And yes he still have a chance to fight and being a champion again.

Whether there is or there is no support on him, he'll just to keep going on. He's still a boxer after being stripped on his title. Going on with Inoue and Donaire, now there's a turn around.
It is now Paul Butler that aims to have a match whoever wins this match. Before, it should be Casimero but now, it's Butler who's targeting the winner of this match.

There would really be adjustments specially if there's stipping or belts which is sad for Casimero which he should might able to have a match vs on the winner of this fight.So Butler would really
be having that chance.Sorry to hear out but lets just face up on whats the current reality as of this moment. This fight is really something interesting and the further events that might happen.
If ever Donaire would win then Trilogy is really likely to happen but of course there are lots of people who do say that Inoue would still win on this one.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 02, 2022, 02:10:01 PM

Anyways, Donaire needs to decide after this fight no matter if he win or lose and if he will still pursue his career even though he is not getting any younger. He is already vulnerable unlike these young boxers who's recover and healing process is somehow shorter.

In fairness to Nonito Donaire, he's not like any boxer that is currently in the retirement period but still showing explosiveness. The fact that Donaire established 2 wins at between 38 and 39 years of age, and take note, it was both 4th round knockout wins, how can we even think that it's time now to hang his gloves.

Actually, from what I see, he just moves forward by having a rematch with Inoue because he won his previous fights and become a champion. For let's say he loses in his last fights, I doubt Donaire will still push on a rematch with Inoue. It means, he knows that he has the power to defeat Inoue regardless of the chance.

The main objective now is how to execute it properly on the day of the fight.

The Filipino Flash just gets better in time. He can't wait to get in the ring and fight his opponent. As Donaire is not getting any younger, i think his stamina for boxing gets even higher unlike for most of the retirees that they gets weaker and lose in the ring. But not in the case of Donaire, he becomes more skilled and passionate in boxing that he even wins his fights despite of his age. Well, i agree on you, he would not long for this rematch if he thinks he's not capable to win against Inoue. He knows he can still do it in the ring.

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Quote from: freedomgo on May 08, 2022, 01:37:36 PM

There is a high chance that there will be a trilogy if Donaire will win on their rematch next month as their standings would be tied to 1-1 but if Inoue will still be the last man standing then I think he will go for Butler and go up to another division after he defeats Donaire and Butler respectively. In the past, Casimero is included to his plan but now that Casimero has been stripped of his WBO belt, I don't certainly think that Inoue will be interested to him anymore.

Honestly, there's no other fight that should be arranged but a trilogy if ever Nonito Donaire wins this rematch against Naoya Inoue. It's like the chapter of them should now be close for good. For sure, once the winner of this rematch is announced, and let's say it's Donaire the winner, Inoue will immediately ask for a rematch on the post-interview and Donaire will gladly accept it right away.

Exactly, Inoue gave Donaire an opportunity for a rematch, then most likely Donaire would also give that favor to Inoue if he wins the rematch.
And besides, there's no other boxer in their division that could generate money fighting with him, they are the champions, so people would pay and watch them.

I stumbled upon an article recently that Paul Butler might take a shot at challenging the winner of Inoue and Donaire. However, WBO might assign him to defend his title first but it's still unknown who will be his next opponent.

That's a good requirement as he did not work for that Title, so at least for once, he has to defend it, and I hope it's against a Filipino boxer.

Quote from: freedomgo on May 08, 2022, 01:37:36 PM

Back to Inoue and Donaire, both have an experience dealing with Casimero thru heated exchanges but they didn't release a statement or opinion yet regarding Casimero's strip title. Maybe for them, it's better to be silent for good.

Good for them, they stay professional and focus on their upcoming big fight.
Trash talking has no room here since Casimero is not anymore a champion, he is just now an ordinary boxer trying to climb the ladder again.

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There is a high chance that there will be a trilogy if Donaire will win on their rematch next month as their standings would be tied to 1-1 but if Inoue will still be the last man standing then I think he will go for Butler and go up to another division after he defeats Donaire and Butler respectively. In the past, Casimero is included to his plan but now that Casimero has been stripped of his WBO belt, I don't certainly think that Inoue will be interested to him anymore.

Honestly, there's no other fight that should be arranged but a trilogy if ever Nonito Donaire wins this rematch against Naoya Inoue. It's like the chapter of them should now be close for good. For sure, once the winner of this rematch is announced, and let's say it's Donaire the winner, Inoue will immediately ask for a rematch on the post-interview and Donaire will gladly accept it right away.

I stumbled upon an article recently that Paul Butler might take a shot at challenging the winner of Inoue and Donaire. However, WBO might assign him to defend his title first but it's still unknown who will be his next opponent.

Back to Inoue and Donaire, both have an experience dealing with Casimero thru heated exchanges but they didn't release a statement or opinion yet regarding Casimero's strip title. Maybe for them, it's better to be silent for good.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on May 07, 2022, 04:36:02 PM

I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Don't know what the terms of this second fight, maybe they sign a possible trilogy if Donaire will win, otherwise Inoue will be the best bantamweight and then maybe goes after the belt of Butler. For sure Donaire doesn't want the WBO stripping Casimero because he is instrumental in getting him to Probellum promotions. But yeah, he is out of the picture already and it was Butler name in the discussion now.

There is a high chance that there will be a trilogy if Donaire will win on their rematch next month as their standings would be tied to 1-1 but if Inoue will still be the last man standing then I think he will go for Butler and go up to another division after he defeats Donaire and Butler respectively. In the past, Casimero is included to his plan but now that Casimero has been stripped of his WBO belt, I don't certainly think that Inoue will be interested to him anymore.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 07, 2022, 05:06:45 PM

About casimero I don't think if he get the 100% sure support by the crowd after these issues. And yes he still have a chance to fight and being a champion again.

Whether there is or there is no support on him, he'll just to keep going on. He's still a boxer after being stripped on his title. Going on with Inoue and Donaire, now there's a turn around.
It is now Paul Butler that aims to have a match whoever wins this match. Before, it should be Casimero but now, it's Butler who's targeting the winner of this match.

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About casimero I don't think if he get the 100% sure support by the crowd after these issues. And yes he still have a chance to fight and being a champion again.

He already got the support when he was still a champion, people accepted his style in boxing, he is trash-talker, so what? as long as he wins and make his countrymen proud, that's important, now it's time for him to correct his mistake and that is by bouncing back with a win, probably in a new division.

People need to understand that its part of branding, you are in boxing industry so you need to create noise for people to talk about you. He maybe sounds bad due to his loud mouth but actually we also need to give him a credit that he's really a good fighter. His actions is tolerable since we know he need hype and hopefully he can really bounce back after many idiot people trying to destroy his career.

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Quote from: stadus on May 07, 2022, 03:54:25 PM

About casimero I don't think if he get the 100% sure support by the crowd after these issues. And yes he still have a chance to fight and being a champion again.

He already got the support when he was still a champion, people accepted his style in boxing, he is trash-talker, so what? as long as he wins and make his countrymen proud, that's important, now it's time for him to correct his mistake and that is by bouncing back with a win, probably in a new division.

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I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Definitely a rematch between Donaire and Inoue will be asked if indeed Donaire will be the one who will announced as the victorious one in their said rematch, there's no doubt about that as their standing would be 1-1.
But in terms of Casimero, I think he's quite far in the picture now. He have to decide whether he wants to remain in bantamweight or move up and wait if Inoue will also move up. He needs to settle his own fight and problems first.

Maybe the 1-1 standing is coming donaire and Inoue 2 is a good match to watch cause both team /fighter need to prove their best again in the ring. And this time we can seee if donaire have a chance to win the fight because of the training and a new strategy. If could donaire win in this match its possible that the match 3 will come.

About casimero I don't think if he get the 100% sure support by the crowd after these issues. And yes he still have a chance to fight and being a champion again.

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I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Casimero fighting Inoue is something that couldnt happen specially now that his belt was stripped therefore he would need to climb up on the ladder once again and its just
a shame that you would really be asking out for a fight on Inoue. On what reason will Inoue to consider on fighting Casimero? He would rather
be fighting Donaire which it would be more sensible rather than on focusing with Casimero. Cheesy

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Quote from: stadus on May 07, 2022, 03:54:25 PM

I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Don't know what the terms of this second fight, maybe they sign a possible trilogy if Donaire will win, otherwise Inoue will be the best bantamweight and then maybe goes after the belt of Butler. For sure Donaire doesn't want the WBO stripping Casimero because he is instrumental in getting him to Probellum promotions. But yeah, he is out of the picture already and it was Butler name in the discussion now.

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I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Definitely a rematch between Donaire and Inoue will be asked if indeed Donaire will be the one who will announced as the victorious one in their said rematch, there's no doubt about that as their standing would be 1-1.

But in terms of Casimero, I think he's quite far in the picture now. He have to decide whether he wants to remain in bantamweight or move up and wait if Inoue will also move up. He needs to settle his own fight and problems first.

There's no reason for him to stay, he cannot keep the right weight anymore, so better moving up than continue failing the fans. If he still has the skills and he continues to train, he can still have the opportunity to fight in a heavier weight and be a champion again, who knows, so I'm not closing my eyes on the possibility that Casimero will be able to correct his failure and make the world proud of him again.

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I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

Definitely a rematch between Donaire and Inoue will be asked if indeed Donaire will be the one who will announced as the victorious one in their said rematch, there's no doubt about that as their standing would be 1-1.

But in terms of Casimero, I think he's quite far in the picture now. He have to decide whether he wants to remain in bantamweight or move up and wait if Inoue will also move up. He needs to settle his own fight and problems first.

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I might be wrong but do you mean, Inoue vs Donaire is not a good fight for you as you want Casimero?

Better playback what happens in their first meetup that it needs a rematch. Maybe you just don't know much Donaire that's why you want Casimero for him. Casimero is even overrated. The way he is struggling to maintain his weight, how can he even match with a much more fit Naoya Inoue.

I have to agree that the fight between Donaire and Inoue deserves a rematch. Then, what If Donaire wins the rematch, then a trilogy would be much interesting.
I guess Casimero still have a chance for the Inoue fight later after Donaire.
I want to believe he's overrated, but not until he fights Inoue.
We can't deny that guy is also a good boxer and carrying much hype with his character.

But the fact that Casimero is having difficulty maintaining the required weight, that he needs to undergo a sauna, he won't stand a chance against Naoya Inoue that is fully well balanced, comfortable and disciplined at 117 pounds. It's hard to do what they do in practice if they can't maintain the required weight.

Now let's focus on Donaire and Inoue and don't mention Casimero. He is now totally excluded from this. As per recent reports I stumbled on the net, he now becomes the no. 1 challenger for his former title. He might fight Butler later on but not this year.

Butler also gives a hint that he might challenge next the winner of Inoue vs Donaire.

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