Topic: IOTA - page 547. (Read 1473233 times)

15.3% of Foundation funding goal reached, weighted average donation is 3.8%.

Shouldn't you have asked these questions before the token sale? And if you did not get a satisfactory reply, you should never have invested.

You are obviously a JINN investor, so you know David from before. If you do not agree with his style of dealing with things, why then did you invest in IOTA?

hmmm, this becomes a worry then! I was expecting a straight answer (hopefully IOTA token will NOT be re-issued). Obviously I can't ask the foundation this question now as it doesn't exist yet, and if it does exist later the answer is moot, and if it doesn't exit in the future there'll be no answer as there's no foundation to ask.


is this mess maybe a parachute for behind the scenes clusterfuck bailout?

We can move funds promised to "big deal" to support foundation 

My friends, let's stop this fight. It makes no sense any longer.

The developers deserve their fair remuneration, and the foundation is the way to do it.

They have been doing a great job so:

They need 5%. It's is only fair that they receive what they need.

They prefer to be paid in IOTAs. It is only fair that we make our payments in IOTAs.

No one here is better than anyone. As I have said before, each one here, in his own way, is performing his own role for the best of the community.

David, this is my last request from you:

1) how many IOTA do you hold?
2) how much money of the 500,000 dollars has personally gone to you?

If you can answer this with transparency I am willing to stand down to you. It will provide me enough information moving forward. Because the way you act makes it seem like the answer to both is 0 or close to 0.

Anyway, as always, nothing productive comes from fighting with you or agreeing with you. You just do whatever the hell you want. So be it.

there is no A "officially" replacing B. there is just A has the support of the majority and is better funded than B.

What sort of "people" do I fall under? I'm the one that keeps my word, donates to TENNESSEE, donates to NXT, helps fund iota, jinn, etc. Then we get talked down to and yelled at every other week. Worse still, the person doing all this yelling and screaming likes to make comments about his poor treatment and being treated like a slave. Often times, the tone is more or less completely uncalled for. An honest and simple question will get a 3 paragraph treatment about "cancer" and "insanity" and so on and so forth. Communication is beyond poor. Goal posts keep changing, secret big deal turns into the need for donations to foundation turns into threats (maybe reality) of the project going nowhere unless more funds are produced. I've read every page of this thread, I've read every page of the JINN thread, I have been dealing with this sort of drama for its entire duration. Which, btw, is not needed. David is just bad at this part of the job - if he is good at the rest, much of that is shrouded in such secrecy that I have a hard time judging.

Pathetic performance so far. ROI is not everything and that is all I can see right now that makes me happy.

As to selling, I sold what I thought was warranted after my concerns. It was the only time I ever sold from my position in this space (have never sold eth, jinn, nxt, etc etc etc etc). Truth is, once you manage to start scaring me off, you need to look carefully to see just how many more people are going to jump ship - because I'm usually willing to risk all my funds on these projects.

You should ask Foundation for this.

THIS! +1

OK thanks

can you guys confirm that whatever happens with the foundation vs corporate sponsorship, the IOTA token issued during the ICO wont be replaced by another token issued later

can we share?

I'm in the middle of preparing a new version.

I'm overwhelmed because I refuse to accept lies? Ok.
You said we were THREATENING you by saying that we won't work for free. What went wrong in your genome? You are sitting here lying and accusing someone that made you a 20x ROI from volunteer work. You expect a civil tone after that? Start acting like an adult.

Haha, interesting how it would look if I played the bad cop and David played the good one.

Happy to buy up all of your IOTA tokens so that we no longer have to deal with people like you in this community.

Put in these words, now I understand, and it is only fair that I donate.

Thank you, and sorry for all misunderstandings. I am donating paying my 5% due for your works

Ridiculous and drama ridden as always. Good to see not much has changed.

-I just stated (many times in fact) that I don't expect the foundation to work for free and have (many times) already declared my intention of helping in its funding.

-My posts made no mention of on-boarding anything/anyone. I mentioned the tangle as a metaphor to a road. I'm not asking you to provide the traffic or other cars, I'm asking that my software have something to run on. If that happens, then yes, I would agree that you have provided a functional software product that meet the "donation" conditions.

As always there is no room to speak with you on any issue or concern. You are, still, completely overwhelmed by this part of the job. I will keep making this point until you run IOTA into the ground/change/or go ahead with the possible plans to fork IOTA and leave everyone around here hanging.

Good luck at the doctor, I hope you get good news. Schedule the shrink after your negative diagnosis at the oncologist.  

Even better to add donation button, no one will miss it in this case.