Topic: Is academic pursues enough to get incomes? - page 15. (Read 1926 times)

Yes I agree, that's exactly right, nowadays it is indeed increasingly sophisticated, especially in the field of technology which is increasingly dressed and all digital. Many people complain that they find it difficult to get a job, actually the real fact in my opinion is not that they find it difficult to find a job but they themselves are limited in terms of skills, in fact there are many large companies that need labor but they need someone who already has basic expertise in certain fields, and it is quite difficult to be able to find some candidates who match the qualifications needed. In addition, it is true that the higher your educational qualifications, the greater your chances of getting a job that suits you and is worthy. But sometimes it is not uncommon for some of those who have higher education but do not have any expertise in some fields, because maybe they are not serious in applying some of the learning that is in their college, it often happens, so the unemployment rate is now not only about those who only have low education but even those who have higher education are not uncommon those who are unemployed.

On the issue of the higher unemployment rate, I honestly wouldn't blame the government, and they also can't fully blame the government for for example the government's lack of attention in creating employment opportunities, because obviously if they have the skills then they will be much needed by several companies.

There are always jobs for people with special skills, and the higher your educational qualification in a specific career, the better your chances at getting a job even with the high unemployment rate. The high unemployment rate only affects people are at the bottom and have the most basic educational qualifications.

Higher educational qualifications will improve the opportunities that you will be eligible for.

Special/high-end skills will improve your opportunities as much as high educational qualifications will.

Having too many degrees does not automatically mean that you'll be financially better in life.
You can't use that at the same time. Just one degree is enough for you to say that you are financially stable, but there are still many people out there who have not finished their studies but their lives are still good. If you have work experience and you have graduated, that's even better.

There are vloggers out there who didn't graduate but they are rich now. There are also people who have completed their studies but prefer to vlog, they are still rich. Diligence, perseverance and hard work will get you up in life

1. Thinkers, philosophers, writers, theorists, .... These are often seen as almost useless "specialties".  But they give rise to entities that we, the "productive part of the population", often don't think about - we don't have time "for these little things", and "nonsense"  But sooner or later we come to questions to which we have no answers, and often no opportunity to try to find them ourselves. That's what we need people to do this difficult work for us. This is what those people you are talking about are doing.
2. Everyone earns as much as they can - loader, teacher, philosopher, developer, marketer, fireman.... All these people make the world around us a better place. So any job should be valued, and respected !

Getting a higher degree enables you to get a high paying job. Education they say is the bedrock of any society, so having a good higher degree no doubt give you a leverage to a good paying job.
But it doesn't just end there, so what if those jobs doesn't come as expected, what role will your education now play.
Education enablers you to think outside the box, it allows you to be creative and be idealistic.
So hence your educated and those jobs are not forthcoming, you can improvise and sort for capitals and start a business of your own and be an entrepreneur using your educationan skills on your own business.

Get more degrees and then what? Do a 9 to 5 job with an income that can hardly provide for half a month? Remember, salary is a drug that your boss gives you to keep you away from your dreams. Seeking knowledge is never a bad thing. The more you learn the better you become. But knowledge is not everything in life. Do you think that what you are doing, others are not? The competition is so high. Millions of people are doing the same thing that you do every day. How many of them are successful?

If you really want to do something in life or become more successful than most of the men, then do something that they are not doing. Start small and gain experience. Use that knowledge to push yourself more. Dream big. There's nothing that's stopping you from dreaming. Even if you are unable to make that dream come true, give it all you've got. At the end of the day, you won't have any regrets.

This may sound silly but if you are into anime, watch Zom 100. You will see the dark side of doing jobs. Working for others in not easy. Because at jobs, no one tells you what to do. And if the thing does not meet their standards, you are finished.

I imagine the importance of getting a degree varies from country to country. In my country, I'd say it's important to go at least through a Bachelor's program because many intellectual (non-manual) jobs will require higher education, although it often won't matter where you studied or even what you studied, unless it's a job that's very narrow and specific to a certain degree. Getting more degrees doesn't help, but sometimes getting further in one degree (doing Master's, sometimes even PhD) can be required for more senior positions.
Ultimately, I think people should study what's of interest to them and how much it's of interest to them, and then try to find jobs that are at least remotely engaging with whatever the person studied.

Having a diploma that you graduated from college is a great achievement for a person. But that is not an assurance for you to have a good profit in the future. It may help you to get a job locally where you are located or even in another country to work, but that is still not a ticket to reach your dreams in life.

Because it usually happens that the only people who achieve their dreams are those who have businesses or make money through various methods of investment, trading, and so on, but not just by having a job. Here in our country, every year the number of unemployment increases because every year the number of those who graduate from college increases and not all those who graduate get jobs, and this happens in all countries for a long time.

Yes, it does. There is a vast difference between holding a degree and holding a post-doc for that matter. The knowledge level is different, the skill set is different. A PhD holder person will always get a very high source of income or their hourly wager starts at a very high peak. If there is a chance for anyone to get a higher education qualification then they should always go for it.

Now, there are peeps who get more knowledge based on their experience in the practical field however academics can furnish a mindset to a very different level. It also depends on which background you come from. For example, this could be an entirely different case for the engineering background while it could be another for the PhD holder in life sciences.

I think it has great effect on income for sure.

Depends on which country you expect it from. Unfortunately, many prestigious private companies realize that a degree can't measure a person's level of professional proficiency, it only allows him to gain theoretical knowledge (that is, if he is serious about his education). In some developing countries where the practice of nepotism is very strong, someone can achieve academic degrees even though s/he has never stepped foot on the campus floor.

The problem is that the overall level of the higher education system today has dropped significantly. It is all about standards and time of education. Express education does not give deep knowledge, so a person gets superficial knowledge. At the same time, the cost of education has risen sharply, and many people simply cannot afford to get deep knowledge.

If you really don't want to pursue your academic thing I guess you've missed some part, still ideal to get a degree because this is your assurance that can be use in the future, lets say you take into another path, those path is not related on yours and you failed, of course, you want to try something and possible failed again, you can use your knowledge and skills with your degree so you can still have a possible source of work and income but if you still cant manage and make it fail I guess there's something wrong with you. People doing business, marketing, IT and etc. some of them pursue what they get the degree because they really want it but we cannot deny still some people don't want their course and choose the other adventure of their life if you failed on it degree is can be your reserve.

But nowadays many companies are seeking multi talented people, even you're a programmer, they sometime ask you to become an editor which require you to understand about graphic design, videography, music etc.

Bill gates's quote only for high skilled and lazy person, if someone is lazy and have no skill, they will become beggars.

Most people who pursue higher degrees do so not because they stand to get a well paying job that will increase their financial capacity but rather they increase their level of literacy, experience, exposure and most times technical know how. Some people especially in the developed countries increase their degrees in order to be recognised in the organisation they find themselves while others because of certain position they want to attain in life.

Based on what I have observed in my country, I think most people increase their degrees because they believe that once they are offered employment in the government sector they stand a better chance of being paid a huge amount of money because of the levels they will be ranked in based on the degrees they have while others get degrees to stand out as individuals who can be relied upon once there are matters that requires great thinkers and academic juganuts.

I agree with you that the ability to make money is that they can take advantage of every opportunity that exists and look for opportunities that can generate income and I often see people like this, they don't have a high level of education so if they get the opportunity they will try it and for those who have of higher education, of course they choose the opportunities they get so that they pass them by without trying them first and they will not know the extent of their abilities. I think having a high education cannot guarantee that they will have a high income, you are right. Those who can have an income are those who have the ability to find opportunities and look for opportunities so they can try them.

Obviously having more than one degree means your qualification is becoming higher as well so the chance of getting a job with better pay is also higher. I believe that there are always opportunities but it is for us to look for them depending on our level of determination.

Let's say you live in a place where employment is low so it's like the place has few businesses and companies. If someone wants to work near their home then it is better to take a degree that is more inclined toward the existing opportunities.

But in a perfect world, we should take a degree based on what we love and the existing skills and interests we have. So provided we are having difficulties looking for a job in our local place then we need to risk and travel elsewhere in order to find opportunities that will fit with our degrees.

People have different priorities. Some people get satisfaction from acquiring degrees and they have no intention of using such degrees to earn more. They derive pleasure in learning and gaining more certificates. You cannot assume they are wrong because education is their priority. Maybe they are content with what they earn or they have sufficient financial backings.


Currently, a degree doesn't guarantee a high-paying job. Days at gone when immediately you graduate from college there is a job waiting for you. Currently what matters is the demand of the labor market. You don't need to have any certificate to get a job, all you need is the skill in high demand. If you have a skill that an organization needs nobody cares about your college certificate. Anybody that is depending on his certificate for a job might be disappointed. You can learn IT and AI skills online and get a high paying job with no paper certification.  

Some jobs actually require you to get more degrees especially when you want to go into the academic line and become a doctor or a professor which will be an added advantage, and also in some offices too but aside from all that, no knowledge is a waste it will improve you in a way. and looking at the nature of some people naturally they enjoy reading books to improve their knowledge in a particular field, and these days if you consider the effort put in. while reading is even more than that of the pay you collecting but with passion people don't even mind they will put their maximum effort.

it is even getting more difficult to get a job now because we have limited jobs and considering the population of people that is a problem so even with qualifications it is still very difficult to secure one that can even pay you well. Relying on a degree alone is not a good idea is better to have a demanding skill to improve on, and that is what is behind the increase in the unemployment rate. the majority still believe in the government creating more jobs.

Depends on location, have you asked the question why Asians and Africans run to Canada and UK for school and work, that is because in those places, there is demand for white-collar jobs, as long as you are a smart, dedicated person and know your job, you will always find a way to be called for a job most especially nurses and medical doctors, these discipline are in high demands but in places where the number of graduates in a particular discipline outnumbers the required people, then expect many graduates to roam about the street without any jobs after graduation.

The world is also moving from the traditional ways of education and school, there is this common notion back in the days when society believed that we are the leaders of tomorrow, you wake up and go to school, put in your best and come out with best grades but as time goes on, this are no longer the same anymore, we have successful people today in our society that didn't have certificates from class but today, they are earning millions in second from sports, from the entertainment industry like movies, music, entrepreneurship, and content creating as skill, these are all ways society has evolved to and its working and this is why some people don't value having standard school certificates to make it in life.


Not because they believe, it is the standard of society that you must pass through academics before you can make it in life but haven't we seen the number of people that have invalidated that, how many of Ronaldo's childhood friends can come out and say they have more money than him, players like Neymar and many more all went to football and turn to good leaves that society cherishes the most. Should we go into the music industry like Beyonce, Rihanna and Jay Z, a degree is not the only way to make it in life but if you do it while chasing other dreams is the best, you can be chasing the degree while still pursuing your football or music journey, kill two birds with one hand is better.

IMHO, that depends on the degree that you're getting as an addition on top of your first degree. But for some reasons, there is satisfying feeling when you attain these achievements like having two degrees at the same time.

But if it's about looking for more opportunities, you really have to move where there's a demand for that degree you own if ever you want to pursue that.

Unemployment these days is high but that doesn't mean that there's not that much opportunity globally. Yes, the metric that I am using is globally so if ever there's not that much opportunity in your area with that degree you have, you have to move somewhere else where you can use it.

For higher incomes, it's like having one degree + masters is more than enough and will cause you lesser time.