Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
I did not see taxation as theft because is through taxation that state can build roads, health care facilities, schools, fight external aggression against the state, pay state workers salary and finance research for technological development. But some tax collectors are theft and they also stole from state. 
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Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
That is the fact and taxation is a kind of forced donation claiming to use that for the general good of a country and if you look at tax free heavens like major Arab nations even without a single tax they are having a good time running the country without any hurdle and how come that is possible but the rest of the countries cannot do even with high amount of tax. Every country has to come up with innovative ideas to make the economy to sustain rather than squeezing the working class. Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
It is a different thing but similar.
Donating you do spontaneously to address a one time issue.
Taxation is a sort of way of saying that a well run government adds value to an economy. If there were none of the services that government provides then you would struggle to make any income.
The problem is that government is clumsy and wasteful, and corruption is rampant, so what should be a simple moderate tax, like 5%, is instead some complicated mass of jumbled numbers that nobody can really figure out.
I think the tax thief is the one who took the RIGHT people to the facility should be able to be felt by society. because the tax actually comes from the people, by the people and for the people.
Those people that evading to pay taxes are the thieves.
Taxation is good when it is really going to the countries development and for it's people. Of course the rich countries budget is enough to supply the projects and needs of people, but in some countries taxation is implemented to sustain some needs and to give it back to the indigents.
Taxation can be called theft because of the officials that is greedy in money and corrupting the country to sustain their personal desires.
Taxation can be called theft because of the officials that is greedy in money and corrupting the country to sustain their personal desires.
Any taxation that you agree with is not taxation. Rather, it is a donation.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
Taxation is something that you don't agree with. Therefore it is theft.
tax is need to pay for infracture but too much taxation yes is theft
I believe that the tax should not exceed 10%. All that is over is theft. It seems to me that this amount is sufficient to contain any state.
tax is need to pay for infracture but too much taxation yes is theft
Nations and governments are different.
In a land like the United States where private property is king, taxation is taking some of your property from you. This is stealing. Such companies as the IRS steal the property by doing it in a complex enough way in court that it is difficult for most people to beat them.
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In a land like the United States where private property is king, taxation is taking some of your property from you. This is stealing. Such companies as the IRS steal the property by doing it in a complex enough way in court that it is difficult for most people to beat them.
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Taxes should be used for infrastructure and services that most people agree with, without having to be coerced.
When things get to the point where most people are avoiding taxes to some extent then something is not right. Taxes by themself are a necessary thing, but when a government adds on vast self perpetuating structures that requires millions of employees then it is ridiculous.
You can look at the tax forms used in the U.S. and they are very difficult to decypher. Add line 1 to line 16, then subtract 30% of line 58, divide by 6 and add 3 times half of line 31, on and on. Why not just "pay 5% of your income, 10% if you are caught cheating".
Nations and governments are different.
In a land like the United States where private property is king, taxation is taking some of your property from you. This is stealing. Such companies as the IRS steal the property by doing it in a complex enough way in court that it is difficult for most people to beat them.
If you want to beat the IRS in court, do two basic, essential things:
1. Go common law in a court of record where you aren't represented by a lawyer or yourself, but instead you are present.
2. Require a court of record where the plaintiff has to get on the stand and show the harm or damage you did to him/her, and prove it was you that did the harm or damage.
Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law." Study, study, study.
In a land like the United States where private property is king, taxation is taking some of your property from you. This is stealing. Such companies as the IRS steal the property by doing it in a complex enough way in court that it is difficult for most people to beat them.
If you want to beat the IRS in court, do two basic, essential things:
1. Go common law in a court of record where you aren't represented by a lawyer or yourself, but instead you are present.
2. Require a court of record where the plaintiff has to get on the stand and show the harm or damage you did to him/her, and prove it was you that did the harm or damage.
Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law." Study, study, study.
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
(1) I don't want the felons to vote. Those who commit violent offenses such as rape and murder should be barred from taking part in any democratic exercise. Else there is a risk that they will elect someone who will help them to commit crimes.
(2) IMO, everyone should pay taxes. It is not the responsibility of a small part of the population to fund the government.
The criminals forego their right to perform civic duties, when they commit violent crimes such as rape and murder. Once you break the law, you are an outcast. I don't want the rapists to decide the outcome of an election.
What is the purpose of serving time, if you are to be punished to the end of your days anyway? Seems like the debt to society can never be repaid under this scheme.
It's seems as though you are saying people are unable to change themselves.
What exactly would a pro crime candidate look like? ' I'm soft of crime, big on criminal rights'. Maybe the problem isn't the felons, maybe we should focus on these Lex Luthor style politicians you speak of
Serving time is a strange name, because it's the government who is serving you. You sit on your butt all day reading books and magazines, you get 3 meals a day and medical care for years... Compare it to the life of a homeless guy that sleeps in filth and struggles to survive another day.It's seems as though you are saying people are unable to change themselves.
What exactly would a pro crime candidate look like? ' I'm soft of crime, big on criminal rights'. Maybe the problem isn't the felons, maybe we should focus on these Lex Luthor style politicians you speak of
And I agree everyone should pay taxes, that can. Just like I believe everyone should be able to vote. Solves that problem real quickly and elegantly.
How are you going to determine who can?
I think everybody should pay just taxes. An income based tax isn't one of those.
SLASH AND BURN! TRUMP JUST MOVED AGAINST TAXES IN A BIG WAY AND AMERICANS ARE CHEERING!
SLASH AND BURN! TRUMP JUST MOVED AGAINST TAXES IN A BIG WAY AND AMERICANS ARE CHEERING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XiuAqsOIyM
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NAOMI JAGODA for The Hill reports, President Trump on Thursday met with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin about tax reform, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said, as the White House enters its "first stages" of tackling the issue.
SLASH AND BURN! TRUMP JUST MOVED AGAINST TAXES IN A BIG WAY AND AMERICANS ARE CHEERING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XiuAqsOIyM
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
(1) I don't want the felons to vote. Those who commit violent offenses such as rape and murder should be barred from taking part in any democratic exercise. Else there is a risk that they will elect someone who will help them to commit crimes.
(2) IMO, everyone should pay taxes. It is not the responsibility of a small part of the population to fund the government.
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
(1) I don't want the felons to vote. Those who commit violent offenses such as rape and murder should be barred from taking part in any democratic exercise. Else there is a risk that they will elect someone who will help them to commit crimes.
(2) IMO, everyone should pay taxes. It is not the responsibility of a small part of the population to fund the government.
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
(1) I don't want the felons to vote. Those who commit violent offenses such as rape and murder should be barred from taking part in any democratic exercise. Else there is a risk that they will elect someone who will help them to commit crimes.
(2) IMO, everyone should pay taxes. It is not the responsibility of a small part of the population to fund the government.
What is the purpose of serving time, if you are to be punished to the end of your days anyway? Seems like the debt to society can never be repaid under this scheme.
It's seems as though you are saying people are unable to change themselves.
What exactly would a pro crime candidate look like? ' I'm soft of crime, big on criminal rights'. Maybe the problem isn't the felons, maybe we should focus on these Lex Luthor style politicians you speak of
And I agree everyone should pay taxes, that can. Just like I believe everyone should be able to vote. Solves that problem real quickly and elegantly.
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
(1) I don't want the felons to vote. Those who commit violent offenses such as rape and murder should be barred from taking part in any democratic exercise. Else there is a risk that they will elect someone who will help them to commit crimes.
(2) IMO, everyone should pay taxes. It is not the responsibility of a small part of the population to fund the government.
Since robbery is a crime, regardless of whether it is practiced by citizens or whether by governments, the fact is that I see few people who know how to give a correct justification for this statement. This is partly due to the easy intuition generated by it, because anyone knows that if a person does not pay taxes and resist the intimidation of the state, they will be kidnapped by the government.
It's possible to live without paying taxes. Income taxes, at least. You can't get around sales tax for the most part. Anyway, you will need to own your house or have really, really low rent. You will need to have an income below the threshold for income tax reporting, which is meager, but livable if you have a superior housing situation. But the most important thing you will need, is to produce your own food. You won't be able to avoid paying for certain things, like fuel, power, and healthcare.
But, it really is possible to live without paying taxes. You just, basically, can't make wages. On paper, at least
Trying to understand this a bit better, so you're disagreeing because (1) felons don't get to vote and (2) have to pay taxes. Therefore taxation is theft for everyone?
Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.
Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
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