Topic: Is taxation theft? - page 54. (Read 76002 times)
Since robbery is a crime, regardless of whether it is practiced by citizens or whether by governments, the fact is that I see few people who know how to give a correct justification for this statement. This is partly due to the easy intuition generated by it, because anyone knows that if a person does not pay taxes and resist the intimidation of the state, they will be kidnapped by the government.
I agree to pay their contributions to the society, but only when I share the politics of the state and see that my money is not stolen by corrupt politicians. Additionally, the amount of the contribution should be adequate. When the tax amount exceeds 50% of my income is spent on not clear to me the goals I am against.
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.
Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
Being part of a government is knowing that sometimes the will of the people will differ from ones individual desires. If the process was legit (*cough*Trump*cough*), then you have to deal with choices one's elected officials make. For better, or for worse. So the no taxation without representation thing breaks down in modern society; for every tax you pay, some will benefit your demographic, some will benefit out groups. It should never directly hinder any group, lest it's broken. But, with taxes, you can't win em all. You reap the benefits of modern society; you pay its dues.
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.
Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
I dont see Tax as stealing because I try to look at it if its backed by law as we have most taxes in sane society because government that we have put to run our affairs wont do it from their personal pockets its going to be from our collective contribution which tax is also included but where I will have issues is from the position of paying of unnecessary dues all in the name of taxes, then that is pure theft even though I cannot prove that and majority of governments are guilty of this even in advanced world...
I've recently started paying taxes and now I start noticing even more flaws in laws, in work of municipal structures, now I have even better idea what can be done with this money and it's not being done at all. So, in my country it's mostly disappointing.
But I think paying taxes makes you a better citizen, more aware of what's going on around you, more worried about the future and more enthusiastic about making an impact.
On the other hand, if gov uses it on militarizing, for example, you are partly responsible for that as well.
The idea is good, but there're so many sides to it.
But I think paying taxes makes you a better citizen, more aware of what's going on around you, more worried about the future and more enthusiastic about making an impact.
On the other hand, if gov uses it on militarizing, for example, you are partly responsible for that as well.
The idea is good, but there're so many sides to it.
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.
Can't agree. Everyone gets to vote (although in some countries, felons are not eligible to take part in the electoral process). If you are restricting the voting rights just to the tax payers, then I would have agreed with you. But that is not the case.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
It depends it can be considered as the price for a bridge to tomorrow in a sense the taxes you pay are the price to reflect existence.
But if you don't receive the benefit relative to the cost you pay it's not worth it for some to be a citizen of a place.
As long as the People get to vote for the taxes that are imposed taxes cannot be theft.
There's a consequence to our decisions...most of us learn that as wee tots. You make your choice with the policies and politicians you elect into office. If you don't like what's happening in your area vote the leaders out...vote in people with better ideas.
Now, taxation without representation (without a vote) is absolutely theft.
There's a consequence to our decisions...most of us learn that as wee tots. You make your choice with the policies and politicians you elect into office. If you don't like what's happening in your area vote the leaders out...vote in people with better ideas.
Now, taxation without representation (without a vote) is absolutely theft.
You are probably right but its still helpful for the government to make roads, infastructures, and other necessities of thie country. It still depends on the person on the government who wants to make theft. He should realize that is not stealing from the government but otherwise he is stealing from his countrymen.
No! Technically you're in debt. So you owe them because government paid for your education, which clearly was money wasted since you say absurd things like ‘taxes are theft
Or I sometimes I say “Then keep your money and go live in a jungle, in a nice comfortable tree” because taxes are the price we pay to live in civilization with education, healthcare(unless you're America) roads, cops (who you gonna call when the tiger chases you) fire departments (your tree is on fire) and many more services.
Or I sometimes I say “Then keep your money and go live in a jungle, in a nice comfortable tree” because taxes are the price we pay to live in civilization with education, healthcare(unless you're America) roads, cops (who you gonna call when the tiger chases you) fire departments (your tree is on fire) and many more services.
To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.
Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.
We had studied recently studied about taxation. Taxation is the "lifeblood" of a government/country. Yes, you are right about what you had said. Taxation is not a theft as it is our "duty" to pay our taxes. Some of us didn't know that we are paying taxes; like buying in grocery stores (VAT), or paying cedula (in our country). And the money collected from these taxes are distributed to the local government units for them to use in building projects for the benefit of us people. No government can stand without taxation.
Right. Government needs tax money to make wars. If all taxation ceased, there wouldn't be any wars.
To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.
Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.
We had studied recently studied about taxation. Taxation is the "lifeblood" of a government/country. Yes, you are right about what you had said. Taxation is not a theft as it is our "duty" to pay our taxes. Some of us didn't know that we are paying taxes; like buying in grocery stores (VAT), or paying cedula (in our country). And the money collected from these taxes are distributed to the local government units for them to use in building projects for the benefit of us people. No government can stand without taxation.
Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.
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This is one of the core things about taxes that people don't understand and they feel their money is just going to the greedy people up in Washington (or whatever country you're in) and is just going straight to waste. But the people are unable to see the Police, Fire Department, Security, and so on that if they didn't have these services it would just cause the anarchy in a country to occur.
But one of the things that does bother people about taxes is the amount of money that is wasted by the government on things that the people really don't want to see nor do they feel is going to be worth the usage of their money on, this would be things such as controversial as Foreign aid (to certain countries), Supporting things such as Abortion / Anti Abortion, and so on.
People just want to see oversight of the money in which they work hard for to be in the government, it's simple and it's something the government is going to have to do.
Direct taxing is fine in a civilised society I guess. Bureaucrats need to get paid too. But indirect taxing is ridiculous so either tax income or tax what we buy but not both.
Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.
"Helping" someone must be voluntary. For example, if someone is refusing to work and is applying for unemployment benefits, why should the other working individuals support that person? Also, if the government want to import third world immigrants to the country, why should the tax payer bear the expenses for the same?
Tax is not stealing. This is an attempt of redistribution of income with the aim of supporting those who cannot, for whatever reason, to make money. And for the life of the institutions of government need funds. The theft occurs from the Treasury, but it is quite another.
Taxation is the blood of every countries. Without it, the country will eventually die and crash. With the taxes that being paid, there are lot of people being helped and places being fixed. Tax is not theft, its just an obligation.
To me taxation is not a theft, The Government is able to provide the social amenities like roads, hospitals and schools through the payment of taxes, The Police service that protects us are also paid by the taxes that we pay. We got to have a sound environment to thrive in and the Government provides that through the taxes that we pay.
Of course some taxation is necessary, or you won't have roads, schools etc.
As long as arson is free to live somewhere else, whether in a society with different taxes more to their liking, or out in the woods, then you can't complain too much. But some people view taxation more as a law enforcement issue and a way to control people or inflict their ideas on them. It is unfortunate that exactly the people who should not work in those kinds of jobs often are attracted to that work and cause harm to others.
As long as arson is free to live somewhere else, whether in a society with different taxes more to their liking, or out in the woods, then you can't complain too much. But some people view taxation more as a law enforcement issue and a way to control people or inflict their ideas on them. It is unfortunate that exactly the people who should not work in those kinds of jobs often are attracted to that work and cause harm to others.
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