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bitcoiners

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Quote from: smoothie on July 16, 2013, 04:12:39 PM

At the post office now sending out another batch of orders. Confirmation numbers will be sent in a few hours.

Concerning my coins:

In the unlikely event my coins get lost of stolen during shipping from me to the original buyer I will fund the coins and eat the cost and replace the order. This is assuming that USPS reports the package lost of stolen in writing. Despite that the coins will be funded anyway.

In essence all of my coins that are purchased will be funded.

It is a small cost for me to instill confidence in my coins and the value they are denominated to hold in LTC.

2 coin limit will remain for the foreseeable future as many have asked if it will be lifted.

Yes, but how many do you still have for sale? How many have sold? This seriously affects the second hand market for these coins.

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01BTC10

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Quote from: smoothie on July 16, 2013, 08:15:13 PM

UPDATE: If anyone is having issues tracking their package try changing the "RA" to "RE" in the confirmation code.

Seems USPS says to use "RA" but the labels are listed as "RE".

LINK: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

edit: Some labels have "RE" and some have "RA". I'll try to be more consistent on this in the future.

Thanks, fixed my tracking issue.

smoothie

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UPDATE: If anyone is having issues tracking their package try changing the "RA" to "RE" in the confirmation code.

Seems USPS says to use "RA" but the labels are listed as "RE".

LINK: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

edit: Some labels have "RE" and some have "RA". I'll try to be more consistent on this in the future.

Kuroth

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Beautiful Coin..

cypherdoc

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even if the price does increase, it would be expected, as clearly the demand is here.

especially for the defective original ones that tend to become collector items much like the "casacius" coin.

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Quote from: clearcrystal on July 16, 2013, 03:19:12 PM

Quote from: No_2 on July 16, 2013, 02:50:30 PM

Smoothie, is it my imagination or are you increasing the price of the coins as they sell?

It did increase Undecided

Price has NOT changed since I ordered on day 1.

I sent 28LTC per coin + 18LTC for shipping.

smoothie

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At the post office now sending out another batch of orders. Confirmation numbers will be sent in a few hours.

Concerning my coins:

In the unlikely event my coins get lost of stolen during shipping from me to the original buyer I will fund the coins and eat the cost and replace the order. This is assuming that USPS reports the package lost of stolen in writing. Despite that the coins will be funded anyway.

In essence all of my coins that are purchased will be funded.

It is a small cost for me to instill confidence in my coins and the value they are denominated to hold in LTC.

2 coin limit will remain for the foreseeable future as many have asked if it will be lifted.

dabster

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My order just made it to Canada. Maybe another day or two depending on customs. Canada post seems to update more frequently then USPS. USPS still said its in LA.

worldtreasurefinders

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Quote from: No_2 on July 16, 2013, 02:50:30 PM

Smoothie, is it my imagination or are you increasing the price of the coins as they sell?

I know I got one of the first orders in, and I double checked the cost and it's the same today as it was when they first went for sale.

I do know that the anticipated price was lower before they officially went on sale, but I think that's because the dollar price of LTC went down a little bit before he started taking orders, so he had to raise the LTC cost a little to make up the difference.

clearcrystal

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Quote from: No_2 on July 16, 2013, 02:50:30 PM

Smoothie, is it my imagination or are you increasing the price of the coins as they sell?

It did increase Undecided

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Quote from: molecular on July 16, 2013, 01:14:43 PM

Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 09:39:14 AM

Quote from: dnaleor on July 16, 2013, 07:10:54 AM

Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 06:12:46 AM

Glad to hear that you're considering funding all coins even if a rare few may go astray, for large-ish orders you could always insure them for cost price so if that happened then there would be no monetary loss, or if not then just allow for the possibility of it happening & adjust the price a little to cover it afterwards if it ever happened.

Received my shipping notification

maybe include also the USPS tracking URL with these: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

Mine, to Spain, just says: Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office.

which is OK, maybe it's not in the system as yet, or doesn't show for international registered mail, with Casascius's shipping the tracking worked up until it got to NY or LA ports for international orders.

let uis know how much the customs cost was...
If it's minimal, I may consider buying, but i'm still not very excited because of the price...

I will, for Casascius non silver coins I received them each time with no duty to pay, even for over 100 coin lots, mostly privately mailed (as opposed to shop mailed) packages from the US to Spain don't get any problems with customs even if declared for quite high value (> $100 say) so I'm hoping that there won't be any. This year any packages I've received from Thailand though are now being charged duty but it's just a fixed amount regardless of contents or value of about €28 per package.

A fixed amount?!? How strange. What's the reasoning for that?

Yep, it's totally weird, I've had to pay it about half a dozen times so far this year when I pick up my packages at the post office, I've had stuff from all over the world (non EU) but only had to pay it for shipments from Thailand, no idea why that is, I complained & asked where I could contest this as there's no contact details on the payment demand from whoever issued it (Oficina Cambio, MADB Madrid A)??, but eventually gave up as I was getting nowhere.

Just fished out one of these pesky bills & it's itemized as the following:

IVA Importation = VAT, sales tax: €7.85
Despacho = Office = a sort of handling/processing charge I guess: €14.98
IVA Despacho = f'ing VAT on the f'ing charge for billing you: €3.15
Total: €25.98

That one was from March 2013, the amount seems sort of random & has gone up to about €28 atm so I started consolidating my shipments & as many are worth a fair bit more than amount I'm being charged VAT on I'm not too fussed, this is a new BS to appear as for over 10 years I've had nothing to pay on packages sent to Spain from anywhere.

Edit: so it's €7.85 VAT @ 21% on about €37.50 or $50 which maybe the package was declared at or they just decided to value it as, most of the charge is the processing fee.

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Smoothie, is it my imagination or are you increasing the price of the coins as they sell?

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Quote from: molecular on July 16, 2013, 01:24:17 PM

Quote from: cypherdoc on July 16, 2013, 10:01:48 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 15, 2013, 08:23:10 PM

I too agree most people wont check the public list or block explorer especially people who are just learning about bitcoin/litecoin etc.

correction.

they will; eventually.

the worse case, and most probable scenario, is this. someone steals your coins in transit. they turn around and sell them to an innocent party for a premium who doesn't bother to check the address. a year later the innocent decides to sell the coins to their brother, who does check. voila! no LTC!

result: bad blood everywhere and your coins get tainted and the market value of Lealana coins plummets.

I can imagine a case even worse, don't know about probability:

Unfunded Coins get stolen in transit.
Thief vanitiy-generates address with firstbits on coin and funds it with 10 LTC
In 5 years (1 LTC is worth $2,700), money starts disappearing from lealana physical LTC coins
Trust in and price of lealana coins drop considerably, people start redeeming their coins because they want to be sure wether they're truly loaded
Smoothie is accused of stealing/scamming, he shows the list of addresses he published, but the mob is blinded by anger and still screams "scammer! that list is fake!"

maybe smoothie should put a hash of the signed list into the blockchain from time to time, so he can prove his innocence Wink

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nah, there'd be no economic reason for the thief to fund 10 LTC to Lealana in the first place. he'd just keep the coin for the silver content.

worldtreasurefinders

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Dang, just looked up how long registered mail takes to deliver.

Quote from: http://www.stamps.com/usps/registered-mail/

Please note that due to the tight security provided for Registered Mail, it may take 10-14 days for your shipment to arrive at its destination.

Quote from: http://www.ask.com/question/how-long-does-registered-mail-take

The time that registered mail takes depends on the distance. The post office says that it will take 7 to 14 working days.

I tried finding out any information from USPS.com but couldn't find anything that mentioned how long registered mail takes to deliver, but based on this quick google search, it looks like we're all going to be waiting a while to get our coins. Sad

molecular

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Quote from: cypherdoc on July 16, 2013, 10:01:48 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 15, 2013, 08:23:10 PM

I too agree most people wont check the public list or block explorer especially people who are just learning about bitcoin/litecoin etc.

correction.

they will; eventually.

the worse case, and most probable scenario, is this. someone steals your coins in transit. they turn around and sell them to an innocent party for a premium who doesn't bother to check the address. a year later the innocent decides to sell the coins to their brother, who does check. voila! no LTC!

result: bad blood everywhere and your coins get tainted and the market value of Lealana coins plummets.

I can imagine a case even worse, don't know about probability:

Unfunded Coins get stolen in transit.
Thief vanitiy-generates address with firstbits on coin and funds it with 10 LTC
In 5 years (1 LTC is worth $2,700), money starts disappearing from lealana physical LTC coins
Trust in and price of lealana coins drop considerably, people start redeeming their coins because they want to be sure wether they're truly loaded
Smoothie is accused of stealing/scamming, he shows the list of addresses he published, but the mob is blinded by anger and still screams "scammer! that list is fake!"

maybe smoothie should put a hash of the signed list into the blockchain from time to time, so he can prove his innocence Wink

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molecular

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Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 09:39:14 AM

Quote from: dnaleor on July 16, 2013, 07:10:54 AM

Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 06:12:46 AM

Glad to hear that you're considering funding all coins even if a rare few may go astray, for large-ish orders you could always insure them for cost price so if that happened then there would be no monetary loss, or if not then just allow for the possibility of it happening & adjust the price a little to cover it afterwards if it ever happened.

Received my shipping notification

maybe include also the USPS tracking URL with these: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

Mine, to Spain, just says: Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office.

which is OK, maybe it's not in the system as yet, or doesn't show for international registered mail, with Casascius's shipping the tracking worked up until it got to NY or LA ports for international orders.

let uis know how much the customs cost was...
If it's minimal, I may consider buying, but i'm still not very excited because of the price...

I will, for Casascius non silver coins I received them each time with no duty to pay, even for over 100 coin lots, mostly privately mailed (as opposed to shop mailed) packages from the US to Spain don't get any problems with customs even if declared for quite high value (> $100 say) so I'm hoping that there won't be any. This year any packages I've received from Thailand though are now being charged duty but it's just a fixed amount regardless of contents or value of about €28 per package.

A fixed amount?!? How strange. What's the reasoning for that?

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Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 06:12:46 AM

Glad to hear that you're considering funding all coins even if a rare few may go astray, for large-ish orders you could always insure them for cost price so if that happened then there would be no monetary loss, or if not then just allow for the possibility of it happening & adjust the price a little to cover it afterwards if it ever happened.

Received my shipping notification

maybe include also the USPS tracking URL with these: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

Mine, to Spain, just says: Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office.

which is OK, maybe it's not in the system as yet, or doesn't show for international registered mail, with Casascius's shipping the tracking worked up until it got to NY or LA ports for international orders.

It works for me (to Belgium), they went from Honolulu to New York according to the tracker.
So it's not due to it being an international shipment, just a not so well functioning tracker. Seems to happen more so you don't have to worry about it.

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I wish mine would ship already!!! I can't wait

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Quote from: smoothie on July 15, 2013, 08:23:10 PM

I too agree most people wont check the public list or block explorer especially people who are just learning about bitcoin/litecoin etc.

correction.

they will; eventually.

the worse case, and most probable scenario, is this. someone steals your coins in transit. they turn around and sell them to an innocent party for a premium who doesn't bother to check the address. a year later the innocent decides to sell the coins to their brother, who does check. voila! no LTC!

result: bad blood everywhere and your coins get tainted and the market value of Lealana coins plummets.

Otoh

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Quote from: dnaleor on July 16, 2013, 07:10:54 AM

Quote from: Otoh on July 16, 2013, 06:12:46 AM

Glad to hear that you're considering funding all coins even if a rare few may go astray, for large-ish orders you could always insure them for cost price so if that happened then there would be no monetary loss, or if not then just allow for the possibility of it happening & adjust the price a little to cover it afterwards if it ever happened.

Received my shipping notification

maybe include also the USPS tracking URL with these: https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction!input.action

Mine, to Spain, just says: Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office.

which is OK, maybe it's not in the system as yet, or doesn't show for international registered mail, with Casascius's shipping the tracking worked up until it got to NY or LA ports for international orders.

let uis know how much the customs cost was...
If it's minimal, I may consider buying, but i'm still not very excited because of the price...

I will, for Casascius non silver coins I received them each time with no duty to pay, even for over 100 coin lots, mostly privately mailed (as opposed to shop mailed) packages from the US to Spain don't get any problems with customs even if declared for quite high value (> $100 say) so I'm hoping that there won't be any. This year any packages I've received from Thailand though are now being charged duty but it's just a fixed amount regardless of contents or value of about €28 per package.

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