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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 04:28:06 PM

You do realize that people are developing the technology? People are working as we speak to increase PV efficiency and power output. Telling you that slapping a magnifying glass on a regular panel isn't going to help much isn't trolling, it's injecting a little reality into your THC-soaked fantasy.

Great, then maybe next time you could say that NOT like a mad troll. And if they develop it, I'll just buy that and try to make it better.

I really don't see how you aren't understanding this.

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Quote from: Mike Christ on May 03, 2013, 04:24:56 PM

Shag, why not go out and get this stuff done? We've already talked enough about it, now's the time for action.

I AM POOR.

But I'm getting paid in June, and I will be doing exactly that.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 04:22:11 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 03:59:28 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on May 03, 2013, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_photovoltaics

Interesting. You'll note that it uses high-efficiency cells, and requires additional trackers, and cooling. Throwing more light at an inefficient cell doesn't increase it's efficiency.

So it sounds like we just have to develop the technology, and you are too lazy to even talk about doing that, lol. Wow. TROLL, by nature... You don't even realize you are doing it...

You do realize that people are developing the technology? People are working as we speak to increase PV efficiency and power output. Telling you that slapping a magnifying glass on a regular panel isn't going to help much isn't trolling, it's injecting a little reality into your THC-soaked fantasy.

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Shag, why not go out and get this stuff done? We've already talked enough about it, now's the time for action.

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 03:59:28 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on May 03, 2013, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_photovoltaics

Interesting. You'll note that it uses high-efficiency cells, and requires additional trackers, and cooling. Throwing more light at an inefficient cell doesn't increase it's efficiency.

So it sounds like we just have to develop the technology, and you are too lazy to even talk about doing that, lol. Wow. TROLL, by nature... You don't even realize you are doing it...

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Quote from: Schleicher on May 03, 2013, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_photovoltaics

Interesting. You'll note that it uses high-efficiency cells, and requires additional trackers, and cooling. Throwing more light at an inefficient cell doesn't increase it's efficiency.

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Quote from: Schleicher on May 03, 2013, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_photovoltaics

Ha, nice

Already in existence... I guess no invention necessary, just development now.

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

Are you sure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_photovoltaics

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 03:10:19 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 03:06:39 PM

I'm pretty sure the other guy just addressed this issue, and in a non-trolly manner. Please take his lead

Certainly. Ekaros, all yours.

(Some prep reading, FinShaggy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy )

Yeah, good read. I'm not sure such system do really scale for home use...

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 03:06:39 PM

I'm pretty sure the other guy just addressed this issue, and in a non-trolly manner. Please take his lead

Certainly. Ekaros, all yours.

(Some prep reading, FinShaggy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_thermal_energy )

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 03:03:55 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 02:56:21 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:35:08 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:31:37 PM

You are not trying to help me, you are definitely trolling "Help" comes with advice, not shit talk and hints at shit I already know.

If you already know that placing a magnifying glass so as to focus the light on a small solar panel will not increase it's efficiency or allow the output to equal that of a larger one, why did you suggest it?

It WOULD increase its efficiency, if you could keep it from melting.

No, it would not... the efficiency is a result of the physical processes occurring that turn photons striking the PV cell into electrons coming out the wires. Heat generation is a direct result of the lack of efficiency inherent in the PV cell. Simply throwing more light at the problem won't help it, no matter how much cooling you also throw at it.

I'm pretty sure the other guy just addressed this issue, and in a non-trolly manner. Please take his lead

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 02:56:21 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:35:08 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:31:37 PM

You are not trying to help me, you are definitely trolling "Help" comes with advice, not shit talk and hints at shit I already know.

If you already know that placing a magnifying glass so as to focus the light on a small solar panel will not increase it's efficiency or allow the output to equal that of a larger one, why did you suggest it?

It WOULD increase its efficiency, if you could keep it from melting.

No, it would not... the efficiency is a result of the physical processes occurring that turn photons striking the PV cell into electrons coming out the wires. Heat generation is a direct result of the lack of efficiency inherent in the PV cell. Simply throwing more light at the problem won't help it, no matter how much cooling you also throw at it.

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Quote from: Ekaros on May 03, 2013, 02:58:14 PM

It is, but not with photovoltaic panels....

Have they invented one that can take the heat?

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:00:56 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 12:52:01 PM

Check it out, I got one. You get a smaller solar panel than you would regularly need, making the overall project cheaper than a regular solar panel. Then you use a large magnifying glass, or lens and focus it onto the small solar panel. Making a small solar panel as effective as a panel that is at least as big as the lens.

You have no idea how solar panels actually work, do you?

Yes, yes, I know, quit getting my science in the way of your dreams. Please, carry on, though.

They absorb the sun, and the more direct the sunlight is the better. And you never put out any science, so "your science" is in the way of nothing, because it is not present.

That's a vague definition of how they work. Do you understand the actual physics involved? Do you know how the light is converted into electricity?

I do. And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

hint:

It is, but not with photovoltaic panels....

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:35:08 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:31:37 PM

You are not trying to help me, you are definitely trolling "Help" comes with advice, not shit talk and hints at shit I already know.

If you already know that placing a magnifying glass so as to focus the light on a small solar panel will not increase it's efficiency or allow the output to equal that of a larger one, why did you suggest it?

It WOULD increase its efficiency, if you could keep it from melting.

STOP TROLLING seriously.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:31:37 PM

You are not trying to help me, you are definitely trolling "Help" comes with advice, not shit talk and hints at shit I already know.

If you already know that placing a magnifying glass so as to focus the light on a small solar panel will not increase it's efficiency or allow the output to equal that of a larger one, why did you suggest it?

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:27:18 PM

I spent a fairly good deal of time and money gaining that knowledge. The least you could do is look it up on Wikipedia. And if you have the solution to solar panel efficiency, Don't waste it on here, get that thing to market. You'll make a mint, and be remembered as a scientific hero, to boot.

I'm not trolling you. I'm trying to help you.

Well I don't plan on being a scientific hero, but as soon as I start getting paid I will be working on the development of these panels. All of this projects will be "in the works" very soon, and actually "being done" in the next 6 months to a year.

I'm not saying the panel will be created in a year, I'm saying I'll have regular solar panels by then and be working on making my own more efficient version.

You are not trying to help me, you are definitely trolling "Help" comes with advice, not shit talk and hints at shit I already know.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:21:19 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

I do. And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

If you knew you wouldn't be trolling, you would be sharing. I know why it hasn't been used, and I plan on correcting that problem myself if no one else does (panels can't take the heat is the problem). You're such a shitty troll, sorry I knew the answer, I bet you don't stop trolling though.

I spent a fairly good deal of time and money gaining that knowledge. The least you could do is look it up on Wikipedia. And if you have the solution to solar panel efficiency, Don't waste it on here, get that thing to market. You'll make a mint, and be remembered as a scientific hero, to boot.

I'm not trolling you. I'm trying to help you.

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Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:12:18 PM

I do. And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

If you knew you wouldn't be trolling, you would be sharing. I know why it hasn't been used, and I plan on correcting that problem myself if no one else does (panels can't take the heat is the problem). You're such a shitty troll, sorry I knew the answer, I bet you don't stop trolling though.

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: myrkul on May 03, 2013, 01:00:56 PM

Quote from: FinShaggy on May 03, 2013, 12:52:01 PM

Check it out, I got one. You get a smaller solar panel than you would regularly need, making the overall project cheaper than a regular solar panel. Then you use a large magnifying glass, or lens and focus it onto the small solar panel. Making a small solar panel as effective as a panel that is at least as big as the lens.

You have no idea how solar panels actually work, do you?

Yes, yes, I know, quit getting my science in the way of your dreams. Please, carry on, though.

They absorb the sun, and the more direct the sunlight is the better. And you never put out any science, so "your science" is in the way of nothing, because it is not present.

That's a vague definition of how they work. Do you understand the actual physics involved? Do you know how the light is converted into electricity?

I do. And there is a reason that your suggestion is not already implemented.

hint:

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