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Topic: Liberated: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans - page 2. (Read 4786 times)

legendary
Activity: 3626
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Would you please send a testnet on-chain request for the amount you tried to send me that never arrived so that I can reimburse you for the lost testnet on-chain coins, please?
There's no need to return any testnet coins - they have no value Smiley
If you don't need them anymore, you can donate them to a faucet (example: mkHS9ne12qx9pS9VojpwU5xtRd4T7X7ZUt).

Whatever's wrong with the main net Eclair wallet seems to be happening with the test-net wallet too...

While I like the concept of the Lightning Network the three program's I've used have a long way to go before they are ready for mainstream use.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Would you please send a testnet on-chain request for the amount you tried to send me that never arrived so that I can reimburse you for the lost testnet on-chain coins, please?
There's no need to return any testnet coins - they have no value Smiley
If you don't need them anymore, you can donate them to a faucet (example: mkHS9ne12qx9pS9VojpwU5xtRd4T7X7ZUt).
member
Activity: 371
Merit: 39
Ditty! £ $ ₹ € ¥ ¢ ≠ ÷ ™
Would you please send a testnet on-chain request for the amount you tried to send me that never arrived so that I can reimburse you for the lost testnet on-chain coins, please?
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
As far as I can tell, the channels it should be routing by have enough capacity. So I'm not really sure what is broken.
I assume there's no (one!) channel with enough capacity in between nodes? LN payments can not (yet) be split over multiple channels, which means there must be a route for which all nodes have enough capacity.
That was the reason I gave up on Eclair for the time being, and I expect it to improve once LN grows.

I've opened a dozen channels with BTC 0.011 capacity with some ver big nodes and am unable to send 0.01 in one package, instead I've had to go down to 0.005 0.002 and even 0.001 just to send to coinplaza after having first started with attempts at 0.01 - which means I'm having to go to coinplaza and create smaller and smaller requests and cancel the larger requests.  All very time consuming.
I never tried such high amounts on LN, because even a small percentage fee will already be more than on-chain Bitcoin fees (the minimum of 1 sat/byte is enough as long as I'm not in a hurry). In Eclair the fee was at most 3%, in BlueWallet it's 0.3-1%. Even at 0.3%, it would be 3000 sats, which is 15 times more than I pay on-chain.
I do love LN to pay small orders (a few bucks each) though, those work great!
legendary
Activity: 3626
Merit: 2209
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I've opened a dozen channels with BTC 0.011 capacity with some ver big nodes and am unable to send 0.01 in one package, instead I've had to go down to 0.005 0.002 and even 0.001 just to send to coinplaza after having first started with attempts at 0.01 - which means I'm having to go to coinplaza and create smaller and smaller requests and cancel the larger requests.  All very time consuming.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
I never created a direct channel to CoinPlaza. You can try sending to BlueWallet first, and from there to CoinPlaza. You'll just have to pay more fees (0.3-1%).
Me neither. It's not a direct channel... It's a route that goes from my node, through 1ml.com to 10c.cz to CoinPlaza. As far as I can tell, the channels it should be routing by have enough capacity. So I'm not really sure what is broken. I don't have the time at the moment to really deep dive into the tech side of Lighting to figure out what the issue is.

In the meantime, I'll just close the "giant" channel that I opened with 1ml and claim the sats back that way Tongue
hero member
Activity: 1643
Merit: 683
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
I've tried 250000 sats, 200000 sats and the minimum 101010 sats. I'm guessing something is broken downroute from me and the payment just cannot be made Sad
I never created a direct channel to CoinPlaza. You can try sending to BlueWallet first, and from there to CoinPlaza. You'll just have to pay more fees (0.3-1%).
If you want to try a lower amount, buy 1000 Doge or 0.01 eth as a test.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
The exchange in my signature accepts 100,000 sat minimum, and less if you exchange to an altcoin.
Both yourself and Timelord2067 have recommended CoinPlaza... and sadly, I can't seem to send to them. Despite appearing to have active channels/routes to them... When I try and send a payment after setting up an exchange, I keep getting multiple errors like the following in LND:
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Attempt to send payment 30035xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx6799fd failed: TemporaryChannelFailure(update=(*lnwire.ChannelUpdate)(0xc0012a68f0)({
 Signature: (lnwire.Sig) (len=64 cap=64) {
*****REDACTED*****
 },
 ChainHash: (chainhash.Hash) (len=32 cap=32) 000000000019d6689c08xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa8ce26f,
 ShortChannelID: (lnwire.ShortChannelID) 565538:2086:0,
 Timestamp: (uint32) 1578754515,
 MessageFlags: (lnwire.ChanUpdateMsgFlags) 00000001,
 ChannelFlags: (lnwire.ChanUpdateChanFlags) 00000000,
 TimeLockDelta: (uint16) 144,
 HtlcMinimumMsat: (lnwire.MilliSatoshi) 1000 mSAT,
 BaseFee: (uint32) 1000,
 FeeRate: (uint32) 1,
 HtlcMaximumMsat: (lnwire.MilliSatoshi) 354218000 mSAT,
 ExtraOpaqueData: ([]uint8)
})
)
and then eventually...
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2020-01-12 11:37:14.544 [WRN] RPCS: Unable to send payment: payment attempt not completed before timeout

I've tried 250000 sats, 200000 sats and the minimum 101010 sats. I'm guessing something is broken downroute from me and the payment just cannot be made Sad
legendary
Activity: 3626
Merit: 2209
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BlueWallet payment requests are now valid for 24h, so no rush:
Code:
lnbc100500n1p0pn9ykpp5hq3u2k9283fhw0cwh4azmwc26t5d9ylk8h4z0r6r9y0q7qn7kkhqdqc235k6etvdaexgfmnypkx7ctwcqzpgxqyz5vq0k2xujcc4fvmxkyduznunxeuhl2nlf9zf29n6r59z8g3gppnzurxtwg6mwrryct7gs5ms0s5zpzw67hg226kyxrt6m8hussfz4w5ppcqjp66wm

I can't wait for LN to fix the need for a repayment request. It would be so much easier if you can just pay in a predefined way.

Repaid:

Code:
lnbc100500n1p0pn9ykpp5hq3u2k9283fhw0cwh4azmwc26t5d9ylk8h4z0r6r9y0q7qn7kkhqdqc235k6etvdaexgfmnypkx7ctwcqzpgxqyz5vq0k2xujcc4fvmxkyduznunxeuhl2nlf9zf29n6r59z8g3gppnzurxtwg6mwrryct7gs5ms0s5zpzw67hg226kyxrt6m8hussfz4w5ppcqjp66wm

My Eclair LN wallet works (just emptied it, then sent funds back to repay you a minute later)

I inadvertently sent two payments to the same LN request on my Zap wallet - once I restarted the Zap wallet the second one appeared, so on Zap you can create up to a 12 month request and seemingly receive multiple payments to the same request (could be used for donations??)
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Given my location this morning I barely had a signal, so all went well.
It does indeed work better than it did half a year ago.

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Am online for next couple of hours if you'd like to send a repayment request over?
BlueWallet payment requests are now valid for 24h, so no rush:
Code:
lnbc100500n1p0pn9ykpp5hq3u2k9283fhw0cwh4azmwc26t5d9ylk8h4z0r6r9y0q7qn7kkhqdqc235k6etvdaexgfmnypkx7ctwcqzpgxqyz5vq0k2xujcc4fvmxkyduznunxeuhl2nlf9zf29n6r59z8g3gppnzurxtwg6mwrryct7gs5ms0s5zpzw67hg226kyxrt6m8hussfz4w5ppcqjp66wm

I can't wait for LN to fix the need for a repayment request. It would be so much easier if you can just pay in a predefined way.
member
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Merit: 39
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Got it.

Éclair still works (sort of)

Given my location this morning I barely had a signal, so all went well.

*Edit*

Will send a repayment request in about six hours. (About five GMT)

Am online for next couple of hours if you'd like to send a repayment request over?
hero member
Activity: 1643
Merit: 683
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
However, the minimum amount is 250,000 sats...
The exchange in my signature accepts 100,000 sat minimum, and less if you exchange to an altcoin.

Repayment:
Code:
lnbc100500n1p0p0p5gpp5x6wjqm6h5kyjf0ad9mafdal5aqf4eqxzg5egpuphasxyx99ckvkqdqdfpp4qgrvdaskucqzpgxqyz5vqcuqeflqshhtgv96tyhkhhm39ccxj9ph4th9qatn8dr9q8kgg29l8wgv06x2ek2zpdj8mxy80qmcnlv7nrtz2cg96v5q82sjrmyql6xgpx37q3c
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
Funded! With 32 satoshi fee.
Sorry for the delay, it was night here.
Thanks. and no worries... I'm generally not in any particular hurry with these sorts of things Wink

I'm busying experimenting with "Loop" at the moment... supposedly it allows you to create some inbound channel capacity on a specific channel by moving sats out through that channel "off-chain" and then "looping" them back to your wallet in an external "on-chain" transaction.

However, the minimum amount is 250,000 sats... and I am just getting a lot of "TemporaryChannelFailure(update=(*lnwire.ChannelUpdate)(0xc005cee160)" errors... so I'm guessing there just isn't the channel capacity between myself and the output point Sad

Anyway, feel free to post up a return invoice and I'll repay it...


BlueWallet says the payment is in transit. That usually means it failed, in which case I'll try again later.
I've been having issues with Bluewallet and lntxbot the last day or so... lntxbot had a bit of a brainfart yesterday... and since then, I get a lot of "no routes" and "Error: failed: WIRE_TEMPORARY_CHANNEL_FAILURE (reply from remote) (204). Erring: 611785x2234x0, 0340…1c80" type issues with it Sad

It generates weird API errors in Bluewallet
hero member
Activity: 1643
Merit: 683
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
Morning.

Code:
lnbc100u1p0pwll2pp53jdhvtxsdvxav0ty48mmesfjfx2gk38wpu3uq4knnurfqklw237qdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqd35hkjfe8zz4lv8dkpg3qpfgtzfuk8masuyfl65k3s5807tdn067z2s2yqqwgsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z2pwsqq2fqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqdfuh5rlst509etz007sr7d4fe739clersecndzlgfc5hw9dg60qsxwkkjk6dhudqxzt75ztrl6dg0l777kxuakwyzydsemsvua9lm6qqp49n8m
Evening Tongue

BlueWallet says the payment is in transit. That usually means it failed, in which case I'll try again later.

Sent!
member
Activity: 371
Merit: 39
Ditty! £ $ ₹ € ¥ ¢ ≠ ÷ ™
Morning.

Code:
lnbc100u1p0pwll2pp53jdhvtxsdvxav0ty48mmesfjfx2gk38wpu3uq4knnurfqklw237qdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqd35hkjfe8zz4lv8dkpg3qpfgtzfuk8masuyfl65k3s5807tdn067z2s2yqqwgsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z2pwsqq2fqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqdfuh5rlst509etz007sr7d4fe739clersecndzlgfc5hw9dg60qsxwkkjk6dhudqxzt75ztrl6dg0l777kxuakwyzydsemsvua9lm6qqp49n8m
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Code:
lnbc100u1p0pv5y5pp5uagzm5tfdgnuu55788pxfhncy736gc2hr3lxrlq8fkf0d6m0se3sdp2gajhgarfdenjqcfqf3hkzm3qveex7mfqf3hhjcm92ccqzpgxqyz5vq32my89k9yexrkpe3u0s5wagk48pkt6gsnme5a8cwrwrfjrft0779rjv88yt5mg3fwcq5e9vc0pgn64gef38mkffl5pwr99gjx2kwyvcq2pgy9r
Funded! With 32 satoshi fee.
Sorry for the delay, it was night here.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
Hey mate... ok, experimenting more with LND... Seems like my Bluewallet+lntxbot combo isn't working at this time, apparently the lntxbot is a bit "broken", so I can't send sats to myself. Sad
Code:
lnbc100u1p0pv5y5pp5uagzm5tfdgnuu55788pxfhncy736gc2hr3lxrlq8fkf0d6m0se3sdp2gajhgarfdenjqcfqf3hkzm3qveex7mfqf3hhjcm92ccqzpgxqyz5vq32my89k9yexrkpe3u0s5wagk48pkt6gsnme5a8cwrwrfjrft0779rjv88yt5mg3fwcq5e9vc0pgn64gef38mkffl5pwr99gjx2kwyvcq2pgy9r
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I'm slowly picking up some of the realities of Lightning... like how you can commit a bunch of sats to a channel... and the other party can end up offline for days... and then you need to wait 144 blocks to force close the channel to get your sats back! Undecided
Been there, done that. That's why I started to like the custodial wallet, it takes all the trouble away and just works out of the box. Until they run with the money, in which case they have enough for one beer Tongue

Update: I never connected to a node that went offline though. That's just bad.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4314
Thanks, this has been repaid:



I'm slowly picking up some of the realities of Lightning... like how you can commit a bunch of sats to a channel... and the other party can end up offline for days... and then you need to wait 144 blocks to force close the channel to get your sats back! Undecided
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 16303
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Sweet... received... Feel free to post up a request and I'll repay it...
Here you go:
Code:
lnbc100500n1p0qecggpp5ufc2ultffdd04hu9q0s5uagw93v8a389l5vplxl9f9z4wguvl5cqdqlf3hhjcm92cs8qctevfskx6eqw35k6egcqzpgxqyz5vq3mdzc67g49nq4hpyxpkquhjdfaln32as3rjmt9t2ys6m9dzzdn7pm7l8vd0g87k8m679lasshqgzj5yh03vhzn3vn9pvacyddl25v7spx800wk
BlueWallet allows 24h by default now.
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