Topic: Liberated: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans - page 4. (Read 4800 times)

That's terrible on mobile, I'll just type it:
I'm using Bluewallet, and Android doesn't tell me there's a newer version. I could pay your request, but I can pay the same amount to lightning-roulette.com.

That's possible.  I chose the node based on proximity using the map found here: https://explorer.acinq.co/
I'm connected to BonsaiSoftware's node, peer ID: 02a5fa844d310f582d209fe649352b225440b8a54e77361f229bb92ee263c87e6f

@LoyceV, could you post a screenshot of that error message? I am quite sure that it used to look different. One month ago, Eclair Mobile got an update in which they fixed an issue in route calculation for direct payments. Do you have the latest update? Also, can you try paying the following invoice? Don't worry, I won't rip you off



I got a different error. "Processing node does not know the next peer in the route".

Maybe. Or maybe it's a flaw in routing, I've experienced before that I couldn't send a transaction directly, but I could send it to another service first, and complete it from there. That means a route is possible.

There must be insufficient capacity in intermediary channels to complete the transaction.

See this picture as an example of what I believe the issue to be.

It is also possible that the channel that DireWolfM14 is connected to is a node that is not well connected to the rest of the LN network. I ruled out this being the case for LoyceV because he used both his local LN wallet and a custodial wallet that I believe to be well connected to the LN network.

It wasn't expired (it would tell me). I get the same error again, and I don't know why

I'm confident I didn't paste an address, but I'm also confident I didn't paste the payment request properly.  Copying and pasting on my phone can be challenging with my sausage-like fingers, I bet I just buggered up the script some how.  Once I figure out how to send a proper payment I noticed some differences from that first attempt.  When it worked right the wallet software asked me to confirm the transaction, then it asked me to enter my PIN.  None of that happened during the first attempt, it just took that buggered up code and created a transaction that sent all the funds in the channel back to my wallet.  Weird.



That's odd, my wallet shows I have inbound capacity:




Could it be that my payment request expired?  I changed the setting to allow payment requests for up to six hours.  Can we try it again?

You only have to paste or scan the payment, if it's an address (which you did some how), it'll make an on-chain payment, and if it's a LN-request, it'll go through LN.

I get the same error (in Bluewallet) as I got for Timelord2067's request: "Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity?".

I'm sorry I don't know how to do screen grabs from mobile phones...

When Éclair starts it's on the centre of three pages, my phone has a short pause where you can't toggle, however once it's done its thing you can either swipe left or right. Or, touch the three buttons "Receive" "Payments" or "Channels"

On the "Receive" page you start with "on-chain" but can't touch "lightning" until you go into "settings" and turn on the receive Lightning Payments" toggle. (very dense for a lightning-node based product)

You can request an amount of bitcoins, or fiat if you scroll down slightly to the "edit request"

• "On Chain" you can touch the QR code or, touch and hold the text, or use the "share" button (three circles connected in an < shape) to copy the text.
• "Lightning" is the same, however I've found if you touch the text version of the payment request (receive) you will inevitably have to "select all" text then copy it.
  
  You can then use this text starting "lnbc..." to send a payment request.

swiping (or touching "payments") takes you to the middle page.  There is a blue circle with an arrow which I mistakenly thought was a Telegram Logo... touch this and you will be offered the following options:

• "Paste a payment request" - this option enables you to paste a payment request "lnbc..." you received from some-one else... There's a few issues of it's own which requires another set of dot points...
• "Scan a payment request" *if* you have a mobile device/tablet with two cameras (one each front and back) you can scan the QR code for either some-one's Éclair program, or QR codes on pages such as this one.

On your payment screen as with the amounts in your various wallets, you can toggle between the amount in bitcoin and a fiat denomination that you set (default is US$)

If the payment request fails to send (9.99/10 it fails on my three devices I've installed LN programs) you have to manually re-enter the value you want to send if you go into the payments TX details and click "retry payment".

When my mobile phone's screen goes blank I'm disconnected from the network and even though I have opened a channel to Amsterdam I'm still unable to receive a transaction from LoyceV as his end can't find a path to my end.  Very clunky - not just both ends, but every node in-between has to be online simultaneously for a transaction to first find a path, then occur.

Okay, I see the on-chain/LN toggle on the receiving screen, but not on the payment screen.  If anyone can tell me what I did wrong the last time I'd appreciate it.  Here's a screen shot:



ETA:
I figured out how to buy some dogecoin using a lightning payment.  That was fast and fun, I like this game.


Loan Request:

I'll pester you for a repayment script tomorrow. 

I did not toggle.  I'll be sure to toggle next time. 

I only just got around to checking it again and now; it has 14 confirmations, and the channel status is "normal" now.  I still don't know if it needs a minimum of 6.

In Éclair you have to toggle between "on-chain" and the lightning-network when making a request. Perhaps you hadn't toggled that setting?

I believe so, but not certain.  I have one confirmation now, I'll keep and eye on it to see if I can make the determination if that's accurate.

My total inbound is 0.0101 split between a 0.0002333 and 0.0007788

I don't remember the exact details, so just a guess: does it have/need 6 confirmations?

The wallet shows 1.32577 mBTC in the channel, but when I try pasting the code it tells me I don't have enough funds in the open channels.  The channel state is "waiting for funding confirmed," so I may have to wait.  The home screen still shows a balance in the wallet, so I'm guessing the funds aren't lost into the ether...

Weird, but good thing it's your own address
You don't need to wait for this to confirm, you won't need these on-chain funds for the LN request. Let's put if this way: if it allows you to choose a fee, you're using on-chain instead of LN.

I can't send 10 000 satoshi. It says: "Payment failed. Does the receiver have enough inbound capacity?".

Lol, operator error is how that happens.


100% certain I pasted the lightning request.  The funny thing is the funds look like they're being transferred back to my wallet, the funds are still there, just minus the transaction fees, and now it's waiting for confirmations.  I know I didn't paste that bc1 address into my wallet.  Oh well, I'll wait for the transaction to confirm and I'll give it another shot.

No
That's an on-chain transaction, while I sent you a LN request. I don't know how that can happen.

Decoder for Lightning Payment Requests shows this for the request I posted:
As far as I know, it's not possible to pay this with an on-chain transaction. I don't know how you got there

Your transaction sent funds to bc1qtm6y3c3vnplncu7zqf8w2zzafxgrxqxdgp6gzlc4ad8zzfx53auqusdjqk, are you sure you didn't copy/paste an addy instead of the LN request?

Okay, I pasted the invoice into the wallet, and it automatically calculated how much to send, but it looks like the transaction includes the whole balance of the channel.  And it's still confirming.

Does this look right?