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Hello again.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 03, 2019, 12:35:04 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on September 03, 2019, 11:43:17 AM

I can get you 1000 Doge if you want too, just post an addy and I'll get you a LN request.

That sounds good, let's do that. My DOGE address: DHoyadiVDMFcgbPPaR5spBL1znxdedsbWJ

Send anything from Min: 25252.52 SAT to Max: 1028641.28 SAT to:

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lnbc252525300p1pwkax5hpp5uluan5s***removed because I removed it from coinplaza***mtxz5gm7xdp3spya7lx5

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Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
03 SEP 2019
DireWolfM14's DOGE address: DHoyadiVDMFcgbPPaR5spBL1znxdedsbWJ
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
157v67atJjnx7Fdi2wmcBBpChugHNmDWup
IBrXl+445QjU5c+Hehl96zKAkq5D4nVqwg0dbMnJF8tJR+k5AhfbZV5h/jmhxO5JBv9cPyHxXEmSgmIUlfpy0DQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Signed with staked address.

I didn't check the signed message. Partially because it's less than 3 dollars, but also because you're the one funding the LN exchange to Doge.
If anyone would need to sign, it would be me, but again: less than $3

I'm not sure how long it's valid.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 03, 2019, 11:43:17 AM

I can get you 1000 Doge if you want too, just post an addy and I'll get you a LN request.

That sounds good, let's do that. My DOGE address: DHoyadiVDMFcgbPPaR5spBL1znxdedsbWJ
I've opened another channel, so lets see if it works. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
03 SEP 2019
DireWolfM14's DOGE address: DHoyadiVDMFcgbPPaR5spBL1znxdedsbWJ
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
157v67atJjnx7Fdi2wmcBBpChugHNmDWup
IBrXl+445QjU5c+Hehl96zKAkq5D4nVqwg0dbMnJF8tJR+k5AhfbZV5h/jmhxO5JBv9cPyHxXEmSgmIUlfpy0DQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Signed with staked address.

ETA: Fixed the date in the signed message. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 03, 2019, 11:23:27 AM

Or, I could pay back my Lightning Loan before I borrow it...

That'll only work if you pay a very high interest (the channel reserve).
I can get you 1000 Doge if you want too, just post an addy and I'll get you a LN request.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on September 03, 2019, 12:00:58 AM

In Eclair, you may need to enable receiving funds in Settings too.

That part I figured out.

Quote from: LoyceMobile on September 03, 2019, 12:00:58 AM

All funds are on your side of the channel. See:

Quote from: LoyceV on June 04, 2019, 03:23:56 AM

After opening a LN channel, you need to make a payment first to get inbound capacity. I bought 1000 Doge at https://www.coinplaza.it/ (ANN thread), but you can also exchange Bitcoin Lightning for Bitcoin.

I didn't realize I needed to make a payment first. Coinplaza.it isn't available to US residents so I can't use them. Maybe I'll feed some chickens, while I eat some chicken during my lunch break today. Or, I could pay back my Lightning Loan before I borrow it...

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 02, 2019, 06:18:08 PM

Why can't I receive any coins?

All funds are on your side of the channel. See:

Quote from: LoyceV on June 04, 2019, 03:23:56 AM

After opening a LN channel, you need to make a payment first to get inbound capacity. I bought 1000 Doge at https://www.coinplaza.it/ (ANN thread), but you can also exchange Bitcoin Lightning for Bitcoin.

In Eclair, you may need to enable receiving funds in Settings too.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on September 02, 2019, 06:18:08 PM

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Why can't I receive any coins?

When you open a channel, the other party will need to fund the channel with you if you are going to receive coin. The amount you send to fund the channel is the amount the other party can receive in the channel and each party may find different amounts to start the channel.

From what I have seen, most channels will be funded by one person. There are some websites that allow you to “rent” inbound receiving capacity for a percentage of the capacity plus a fixed amount and they will “guarantee” the channel be open a predetermined minimum time, but this cannot be enforced.

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I'm almost ready to request a loan. I don't really need it, just want to learn about lightning, support this effort, and have some fun feeding chickens.

But I ran into a snag:
I downloaded and installed Eclair
I sent mBTC0.5
Tried to open a channel
I was informed I needed a minimum of mBTC1 to open a channel
I sent another mBTC0.9+ from the change address of the first transaction
I opened a channel before the first transaction (mBTC0.5) had 6 confirmations
I waited
The channel finally went to "Normal" but it still said the amount I could receive is 0.

Why can't I receive any coins? I've since closed the channel (mutual,) and now I'm waiting for that transaction to complete. Now that the funding transactions have plenty of confirmations, if I open another channel will I be able to receive? What did I do wrong? Other than not reading this thread thoroughly, and being impatient?

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i'm new to this . i need a loan for 0.016 BTC . can you help me?

No. I don't give reading lessons.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 24, 2019, 02:40:36 AM

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I could definitely get something going that doesn't disconnect whenever the screen saver is activated in the same way Eclair does.

Isn't that an Android power/data saving feature?

Probably - if I don't have it running I might end up never starting it up. (It's all an exercise for me at the moment).

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 24, 2019, 12:28:52 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 02:17:18 PM

I'm now only using Bluewallet (custodial), it has less problems than my own channels had. I'm hoping this will chance once LN matures, at least this wallet doesn't tell me I can't send a payment.

ZAP doesn't recognise tippin requests, one of my eclair wallets can't find a path, while the other found a path to tippin straight away.

So I guess this was you:

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Aug 24, 2019No message+9648 sat

It worked, thanks Cheesy

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My two eclair testnet wallets have numerous channels, but neither of them seems to have any traffic despite some inbound being available. (I've got ~6 BTC combined and even bought inbound (which never seemed to appear) I can go up to ~100 BTC of testnet coins, but creating that many channels with a max of 0.1677721 each is tedious)

I've never used testnet, I always consider it to be for developers, while I (as a user) prefer to play around with real Bitcoins. I just stick to small amounts.

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I could definitely get something going that doesn't disconnect whenever the screen saver is activated in the same way Eclair does.

Isn't that an Android power/data saving feature?

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 02:17:18 PM

I'm now only using Bluewallet (custodial), it has less problems than my own channels had. I'm hoping this will chance once LN matures, at least this wallet doesn't tell me I can't send a payment.

ZAP doesn't recognise tippin requests, one of my eclair wallets can't find a path, while the other found a path to tippin straight away.

Almost OT

My two eclair testnet wallets have numerous channels, but neither of them seems to have any traffic despite some inbound being available. (I've got ~6 BTC combined and even bought inbound (which never seemed to appear) I can go up to ~100 BTC of testnet coins, but creating that many channels with a max of 0.1677721 each is tedious)

If you hear of any testnet LN wallets for PC I'd appreciate it if you could let me know. I could definitely get something going that doesn't disconnect whenever the screen saver is activated in the same way Eclair does.

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on August 23, 2019, 04:35:44 PM

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over? You pay bitcoin to watch the chickens eat? Do you think the farmer is gonna let these chickens starve if you don't pay? Shivering shit on a shingle!

It's not about the chickens of course, all I see is someone who built something, hooked it to a webcam, and added the Lightning Network to operate it. That, I like!

LN is still experimental and isn't used much yet, but I've seen close to a dozen different wallets already. I believe LN can get really big, and I like to encourage development of applications.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 04:06:33 PM

But have you fed the chickens yet? Cheesy

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over? You pay bitcoin to watch the chickens eat? Do you think the farmer is gonna let these chickens starve if you don't pay? Shivering shit on a shingle!

My neighbors are tickled pink that I let their chickens clean the slugs and snails out of my garden for free. Maybe I should charge them for saving them money on chicken feed. Chicken feed high in Omega 3... I suppose I do get free eggs from time to time.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 04:06:33 PM

But have you fed the chickens yet? Cheesy

Oh yeah,
Sent 5 Times Little Lightning Help Cheesy

3 sats fee per transaction

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Quote from: asu on August 23, 2019, 03:55:09 PM

Sent with 30 sats fee as usual.

Received! I expected a higher fee for a larger transaction, now it looks like 30 sat is the standard fee for transactions from Bluewallet to Bluewallet.

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Thanks for the help I enjoyed the 3 casinos you sent to me but I end up losing some of my satoshi lol. Helped out some of my countrymen also with the help of that 3 casino’s, helps them to lose their satoshi also Cheesy

But have you fed the chickens yet? Cheesy

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 03:48:30 PM

No problem

Here's a new one, for 20,200 sat:

Code:

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Sent with 30 sats fee as usual. Thanks for the help I enjoyed the 3 casinos you sent to me but I end up losing some of my satoshi lol. Helped out some of my countrymen also with the help of that 3 casino’s, helps them to lose their satoshi also Cheesy

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Quote from: asu on August 23, 2019, 02:31:02 PM

Sorry for the delay Loyce. The invoice payment request has already expired, please make a new invoice request Cheesy

No problem

Here's a new one, for 20,200 sat:

Code:

lnbc202u1pwkqs8npp5ugd494s98hzhdvqlkck0zrnhqcg0txxuxetr4wjudvwykd298n6sdqqcqzpgwdf54v69xw355a85t7uqqsung53yxxpqkhc9tfkma8ffdka74v9netj0c6ap2u28fx677d9pmh9qr344nzlmqswefupr72z75nu7gvsp5jgglp

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 16, 2019, 07:18:56 AM

It's pay back time Cheesy

Please pay 20,200 sats:

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lnbc202u1pw4lt97pp5wttuvmnnkdp972ta44g0ue8nx94tln8q8667hgv6xrnjjwp8fr7sdqqcqzpgszngd9kpmuer3690q5a2jntnhce48dl66maxwzm99l77kwx8d58ht27jn57s53h3gsgarr2v8lrzs2y5tcv0rmaghm7qty3upwe4y6qps0e6c2

Sorry for the delay Loyce. The invoice payment request has already expired, please make a new invoice request Cheesy

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