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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 10:52:29 AM

Paid via my ZAP LN wallet...

Received

I'm taking your quote from another topic here:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 10:47:26 AM

Am trying to get tippin working, like everything lightning related, I just don't seem to have enough connections or a large enough channel. Just some of LN's failings. Main net broadcasts a transaction, while LN tries ten times to find a path then gives up.

I'm now only using Bluewallet (custodial), it has less problems than my own channels had. I'm hoping this will chance once LN matures, at least this wallet doesn't tell me I can't send a payment.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 10:50:16 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 10:42:29 AM

*edit* am home now, feel free to send a repay request.

I lowered the interest by 50% (only 16 sat the fee I paid): because of the early pay back:

Code:

lnbc100500n1pwkqz4cpp50ruc82js5txalzfknmjrl729axfuvumxck8yjty4jge70fdfjr0sdqqcqzpgfetmyy7g6tqj54pf5lmfpk8vrz0n9088m9653dparnhg3yhkavsnntwj7wjg7rrha0juvza0nm0gajj8rwcymudsgc2wk09jqfkgn7cpp9nvdj

Paid via my ZAP LN wallet...

cb256ac2588b784f81807e5621e7c61b16e23c7312c190f5b10b6fbcf98a7323 (and it went via Germany, not Amsterdam node too)

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 10:42:29 AM

*edit* am home now, feel free to send a repay request.

I lowered the interest by 50% (only 16 sat the fee I paid): because of the early pay back:

Code:

lnbc100500n1pwkqz4cpp50ruc82js5txalzfknmjrl729axfuvumxck8yjty4jge70fdfjr0sdqqcqzpgfetmyy7g6tqj54pf5lmfpk8vrz0n9088m9653dparnhg3yhkavsnntwj7wjg7rrha0juvza0nm0gajj8rwcymudsgc2wk09jqfkgn7cpp9nvdj

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 23, 2019, 04:11:00 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 03:46:48 AM

Code:

lnbc1pw4lfjrpp5awnhfdh59ayr6m2dmhtv7m3na5m2thr0z64q50e90vj8fenwaglsdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqfs04d3nqehd0vwehxu2p7kg0c2hn5tsn6r5629q69c6rawy8wu8wzgr6qqqsjsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89pqqq96gqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqlccx8znjdlm3405lsxc6matuxhnaf9q35l8a0gl5ytmkyz5zg0nxw92grxvm49sue08k67rygtsh250xla9wz7u4m2dm3c7dw7ny9tspk5ujhx

Loan funded: I've sent 10,000 sat to "Roaming LN wallet" with 34 sat fee.

Thanks, have got it - please send a repay request ~~in um five or six hours time (if you're still on) and I'll try making a repayment.~~

*edit* am home now, feel free to send a repay request.

Regards,

LoyceV

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 23, 2019, 03:46:48 AM

Code:

lnbc1pw4lfjrpp5awnhfdh59ayr6m2dmhtv7m3na5m2thr0z64q50e90vj8fenwaglsdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqfs04d3nqehd0vwehxu2p7kg0c2hn5tsn6r5629q69c6rawy8wu8wzgr6qqqsjsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89pqqq96gqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqlccx8znjdlm3405lsxc6matuxhnaf9q35l8a0gl5ytmkyz5zg0nxw92grxvm49sue08k67rygtsh250xla9wz7u4m2dm3c7dw7ny9tspk5ujhx

Loan funded: I've sent 10,000 sat to "Roaming LN wallet" with 34 sat fee.

Quote from: LoyceV on August 16, 2019, 06:18:56 AM

Quote from: asu on August 16, 2019, 05:55:53 AM

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6gpp5nnhzawurg8pc0ep3686v5ypcylf830yt2vwxj2yce704pzvquwgqdqqcqzpgjhvyc0pqxmfmt04wvn88h4pn2qx4c2attytadfygzkccwk8438mn5cv8z8fnc4hdnhqzw6nffe422v32qsnnfz2a76sdc3drlszunfcp8t5j0n

10,000 sats

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6lpp5argygjuy0p69e9fy45fkqcr76plxtae2cysq76lxqfjuh8jp4j6sdqqcqzpgfefarzdlttazth9p9gse5esp24uh987rztqgssvm44mjlam2pjkku8whld7kgkkcf6lc8amupxcrftgqd8a2czc7f8w94739t0306fsq554lxj

10,000 sats

I've funded both, each with 30 sat fee.

It's pay back time Cheesy

Please pay 20,200 sats:

Code:

lnbc202u1pw4lt97pp5wttuvmnnkdp972ta44g0ue8nx94tln8q8667hgv6xrnjjwp8fr7sdqqcqzpgszngd9kpmuer3690q5a2jntnhce48dl66maxwzm99l77kwx8d58ht27jn57s53h3gsgarr2v8lrzs2y5tcv0rmaghm7qty3upwe4y6qps0e6c2

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I have a channel open to a node in Amsterdam so this should work...

Code:

lnbc1pw4lfjrpp5awnhfdh59ayr6m2dmhtv7m3na5m2thr0z64q50e90vj8fenwaglsdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqfs04d3nqehd0vwehxu2p7kg0c2hn5tsn6r5629q69c6rawy8wu8wzgr6qqqsjsqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89pqqq96gqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqlccx8znjdlm3405lsxc6matuxhnaf9q35l8a0gl5ytmkyz5zg0nxw92grxvm49sue08k67rygtsh250xla9wz7u4m2dm3c7dw7ny9tspk5ujhx

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Quote from: asu on August 16, 2019, 07:33:52 AM

Hope there’s an app that legitimate to used to transact big amount,

There are exchanges. I've only tested coinplaza.it (reflink in LoyceMobile's sig).
I didn't need KYC to exchange up to 100 euro per day, but I've only exchanged much smaller amounts. No other exchange allows me to buy just 1000 Dogecoin with Bitcoin Lightning Cheesy

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 16, 2019, 06:18:56 AM

I've funded both, each with 30 sat fee.

Both payment received, that small fee though.

LN is so interesting. Hope there’s an app that legitimate to used to transact big amount, ~phew. Thanks

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Quote from: asu on August 16, 2019, 05:55:53 AM

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6gpp5nnhzawurg8pc0ep3686v5ypcylf830yt2vwxj2yce704pzvquwgqdqqcqzpgjhvyc0pqxmfmt04wvn88h4pn2qx4c2attytadfygzkccwk8438mn5cv8z8fnc4hdnhqzw6nffe422v32qsnnfz2a76sdc3drlszunfcp8t5j0n

10,000 sats

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6lpp5argygjuy0p69e9fy45fkqcr76plxtae2cysq76lxqfjuh8jp4j6sdqqcqzpgfefarzdlttazth9p9gse5esp24uh987rztqgssvm44mjlam2pjkku8whld7kgkkcf6lc8amupxcrftgqd8a2czc7f8w94739t0306fsq554lxj

10,000 sats

I've funded both, each with 30 sat fee.

asu

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Hello, Loyce Cheesy

I’d like to try it again. Two payment request? Tongue

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6gpp5nnhzawurg8pc0ep3686v5ypcylf830yt2vwxj2yce704pzvquwgqdqqcqzpgjhvyc0pqxmfmt04wvn88h4pn2qx4c2attytadfygzkccwk8438mn5cv8z8fnc4hdnhqzw6nffe422v32qsnnfz2a76sdc3drlszunfcp8t5j0n

10,000 sats

Code:

lnbc100u1pw4dz6lpp5argygjuy0p69e9fy45fkqcr76plxtae2cysq76lxqfjuh8jp4j6sdqqcqzpgfefarzdlttazth9p9gse5esp24uh987rztqgssvm44mjlam2pjkku8whld7kgkkcf6lc8amupxcrftgqd8a2czc7f8w94739t0306fsq554lxj

10,000 sats

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Quote from: asu on August 09, 2019, 09:35:47 AM

It’s like their set of fee in every transaction that will made.

So 0.3% is their "fixed" internal rate? I've had external transactions from Bluewallet without any fee. Weird, but I'm totally fine with these very small fees (especially since they must pay more to consolidate my on-chain deposit).

Payment received, thanks

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 09, 2019, 09:31:06 AM

Please pay back 10100 sat (including 1% interest):

Code:

lnbc101u1pw5mqh6pp5mtwem4d6f9ylggevmp3ex89wxwqcz65h4xl0n27nx0pzvh79gydsdqqcqzpgdxl40t52cg3lfl9mr7nfflc8shxpuq3dmwsfyglevuvw2y97kl3qhdw4w944ks6esehel9t6p4uc38hgkc5fwqqjdp9axzdv0kgvncgqhd0f5t

Sent. Bluewallet charged me 30 sats like you when you send the loan to me, It’s like their set of fee in every transaction that will made.

Edit: Thanks! I’ll try next time four in a row payment request in one time, hopefully you find it interesting.

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Quote from: asu on August 09, 2019, 09:21:49 AM

I’m here now, just got home. Cheesy

Please pay back 10100 sat (including 1% interest):

Code:

lnbc101u1pw5mqh6pp5mtwem4d6f9ylggevmp3ex89wxwqcz65h4xl0n27nx0pzvh79gydsdqqcqzpgdxl40t52cg3lfl9mr7nfflc8shxpuq3dmwsfyglevuvw2y97kl3qhdw4w944ks6esehel9t6p4uc38hgkc5fwqqjdp9axzdv0kgvncgqhd0f5t

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 09, 2019, 07:10:59 AM

Let me know when you're here, I'll request through Bluewallet, and I think those payment requests expire in just 1 hour.

I’m here now, just got home. Cheesy

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Quote from: asu on August 06, 2019, 03:40:27 AM

Anyways, I’m ready to pay my Little Lightning Loan Loyce

Let me know when you're here, I'll request through Bluewallet, and I think those payment requests expire in just 1 hour.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 06, 2019, 09:42:06 PM

Eclair seems to disconnect from the network almost immediately after my Android device's screen saver kicks in.

That's probably an Android setting, something to minimize data and/or battery use.

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Eclair seems to disconnect from the network almost immediately after my Android device's screen saver kicks in.

I've got Zap on PC but no inbound...

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Quote from: asu on August 06, 2019, 03:40:27 AM

Anyways, I’m ready to pay my Little Lightning Loan Loyce

Maybe I should start setting a minimum duration Tongue

I'll get you a payment request a bit later.

Quote from: Rath_ on August 06, 2019, 04:04:22 AM

You would be right if Bluewallet's and Loyce's nodes were connected to each other directly; meaning that they would have a channel in which both of them had some coins on their sides. In such a case, there would be no fees.

Actually, I sent from my Bluewallet to asu's Bluewallet, and since these are custodial, I'm not even sure why it asked a fee at all. Maybe it's part of their payment model (which is totally fine of course!).

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 06, 2019, 07:44:38 AM

Code:

lnbc1pw5jarvpp5cstd55yvxhz39zt0hultnv455cnqgkepfg3d0mm5ej37272x76psdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89q5qqssqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqqq3j6r5d8zcd5d9xmg2zlgmmeplx70mr02755te4yawp29anmmq3l2yqzn848el7gmmq4r09tx0nhtl7u6tv9drzrzsknxncaknfpkgpgsphuj

I'm sending it, but Bluewallet says "payment is in transit". I'm not sure if it will go through or not.

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Hi again,

Code:

lnbc1pw5jarvpp5cstd55yvxhz39zt0hultnv455cnqgkepfg3d0mm5ej37272x76psdqu2fhkzmtfdenjqnzwyptkzmrvv46qxqr4rqrzjqwryaup9lh50kkranzgcdnn2fgvx390wgj5jd07rwr3vxeje0glc7z89q5qqssqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqrzjqw2sxwe993h5pcm4dxzpvttgza8zhkqxpgffcrf5v25nwpr3cmfg7z80dyqq2cqqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqqq3j6r5d8zcd5d9xmg2zlgmmeplx70mr02755te4yawp29anmmq3l2yqzn848el7gmmq4r09tx0nhtl7u6tv9drzrzsknxncaknfpkgpgsphuj

Thanks,

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Quote from: asu on August 06, 2019, 03:40:27 AM

More likely the same on how LN works based from my understanding.
(Loyce channel —> sent 10,000 sats —> Asu channel)
- Small Fee
- Instant
- Without broadcasting their transaction on blockchain.

Am I right? or I’ve missing something that I don’t know on LN Cheesy

Actually, it's a little bit more complex Wink

You would be right if Bluewallet's and Loyce's nodes were connected to each other directly; meaning that they would have a channel in which both of them had some coins on their sides. In such a case, there would be no fees. However, you paid a really small fee. This means that your transaction has been routed by some node which is connected to both Loyce and BlueWallet or a much longer path was found.

Have you seen my LN FAQ and the basics of the Lightning Network? Feel free to post your further questions there.

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