Stories are fun, ..... end with a bitcoin orgy..... 
Topic: Look at a pirate, eye to eye if you dare. - page 5. (Read 60653 times)
we all have time Stories are fun, ..... end with a bitcoin orgy.....
Stories are fun, ..... end with a bitcoin orgy.....
^ looks like you in the pic telling us to fuck off 
You conspiracy theorists need to get a new hobby.
Pirate is the one wearing the hat in the group pic...NOW MOVE ON.
Pirate is the one wearing the hat in the group pic...NOW MOVE ON.
Who's that riding the parrot?
If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled.
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September.
Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it.
All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential.
I know exactly where pirate lives thanks to a return address on a package
YOU HERE THAT, I KNOW WHERE YOU SLEEP!
If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled.
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September.
Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it.
All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential.
Funny, without knowing him I would have said it was this guy. Seems nice
If the point of this thread was for Pirate to "show himself" at Defcon so that investors would have more confidence, I don't think this has been fulfilled.
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
What we have is a picture of a bunch of people, with people saying "This is me with pirate" or "I think I know who Pirate is here".
Why is everybody else so afraid to pinpoint who Pirate is? What is the point of the picture if not to show who Pirate is?
PS! I have money in some PPTs so I'm no detractor, just a bit tired of the games that seem to be played here..
Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September.
Of course, nobody will believe me because if they do it takes all the fun out of it.
All this information is available via google, and if you're investor you should already know all of it or you didn't do you due diligence and one day you will be scammed by a real scam artist. Pirate, on the other hand is just a smart guy trying to get rich by helping bitcoin reach it's full potential.
dude......
Somebody should link to "Association Fallacy" on Wikipedia. It would be a welcome change to all those "Ponzi" links (like we've never heard about it before).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi
But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur.
of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
+1 for both points. I'd like to add that running a passthrough does not make one an accomplice when it's a ponzi. I've heard that said, and imo that makes no sense.of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
Somebody should link to "Association Fallacy" on Wikipedia. It would be a welcome change to all those "Ponzi" links (like we've never heard about it before).
But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur.
of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
+1 for both points. I'd like to add that running a passthrough does not make one an accomplice when it's a ponzi. I've heard that said, and imo that makes no sense. of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
But saying to have met Pirate (when in fact this was true) can never, by any rational fair person, be considered the same as being an accomplice. Whether this is according to any law is secondary, the very derivation is a non sequitur.
of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
I would just like people to speak their minds on these forums as opposed to hiding is small private groups and hiding behind jokes in fear of being condemned for doing nothings wrong. (Of course, if people are in fact are committing wrongdoings its a different story altogether).
of course there are many actions that will lead to condemnation (actually being an accomplice to a Ponzi scam would be one of them for me personally).
I would just like people to speak their minds on these forums as opposed to hiding is small private groups and hiding behind jokes in fear of being condemned for doing nothings wrong. (Of course, if people are in fact are committing wrongdoings its a different story altogether).
There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination.
And you have none. We are all the court of bitcoiners. And when the ponzi falls apart, we'll all look back at the people in the top tier that supported it and pass judgement.
And that judgement will be done on an individual basis... not by some imaginary collective.
There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination.
And you have none. We are all the court of bitcoiners. And when the ponzi falls apart, we'll all look back at the people in the top tier that supported it and pass judgement.
Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business
That might be in a court of law, but not so much in the court of Bitcoiners.
There is no such court. You sure have a strong imagination.
Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business
That might be in a court of law, but not so much in the court of Bitcoiners.
Having met Pirate != Knowing how he runs his business
My point with my post was not primarily to have Pirate identity outed. It was more that the impression from this thread that an in-group of people was playing with an out-group of people was beginning to annoy me - with small hints and the giving out of small dots requiring each and everyone to spend time connecting all the dots (i.e. who is pirate on this picture). It is this kind of behaviour that I don't find particularly professional.
Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS.
That said, it'd be damn-near impossible to prove and I'm sure the case wouldn't even come up unless someone sued you directly...
So, just to reiterate, Bitcoiners were meeting right beside DefCon and not going in.
Yeah, it's everyone's own choice and a matter of taste so What is this I don't even
Yes, I flew around the world to go to Vegas. I went to play craps with Pirate and it was epic.
I did go to the Rio to have lunch with Mike Caldwell of Casasius coins. He was a cool guy as well. But other than that yeah, no defcon. Too much fun was to be had!
What?!??! How could you possibly have different ideas about how to spend your time?
You must be a scammer
. Now imagine a group of people claiming that anyone that did meet pirate will somehow be responsible for pirate's actions, simply because the person(s) met him and now you can understand why some people are intentionally vague as to their meeting of pirate. They don't want to deal with the BS.
I can to a point understand why people are being vague about this, it's more the impression of people being playfully vague that got to me.
That's just it... we have two options: be playful about it or get annoyed. Every single thread that remotely mentions pirate gets inundated with crap by people asking questions with easy to find answers and spreading accusations with no evidence.
As you can see, being honest doesn't get anyone anywhere.
Everyone invested in pirate has an interest in finding out about him, just in case..
Even people which are not invested with may have an interest in Pirate being legitimate and honest in his business practices, as it is directly linked to the reputation of bitcoin and the whole community. I would not like bitcoin to be labeled as an unsecure scam ridden project, doomed to fail for its vulnerabilities to hacking and scam schemes. I know better, but it is hard to explain to the rest of the world if all they get from the media is the catastophes.
Also, pls digg some more into the seeming information you found on Pirate, it is hard for me to believe, that someone with a couple of million of borrowed dollars sitting in his chest lets such information laying around for everyone else easily to find. Especially, because he is so secretive with all his business in general. Maybe try to meet him at his home address, call his phone number and see who answers, or seek some confirmation on his birth in local registers, because it would be highly naive to believe anything you happened to find on Google.
Even people which are not invested with may have an interest in Pirate being legitimate and honest in his business practices, as it is directly linked to the reputation of bitcoin and the whole community. I would not like bitcoin to be labeled as an unsecure scam ridden project, doomed to fail for its vulnerabilities to hacking and scam schemes. I know better, but it is hard to explain to the rest of the world if all they get from the media is the catastophes.
Also, pls digg some more into the seeming information you found on Pirate, it is hard for me to believe, that someone with a couple of million of borrowed dollars sitting in his chest lets such information laying around for everyone else easily to find. Especially, because he is so secretive with all his business in general. Maybe try to meet him at his home address, call his phone number and see who answers, or seek some confirmation on his birth in local registers, because it would be highly naive to believe anything you happened to find on Google.
True. You shouldn't just blindly trust google. However, I'm only willing to share what is obviously public information.
Just out of curiosity... how was defcon ? Anyone know when the presentations usually make it online ?
All video presentations, including mine, should be available around december. Some talk about my experience on this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/defcon-kids-need-donations-quick-96434
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