Man won 12 times in lottery - page 8.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 23, 2019, 04:19:13 AM

Not all people are capable to do that and only few would risk just to attempt what he did. Sadly as common to many gamblers, he got greedy and repeated it for 12 times making him to alert the government then jail him in the end.

I got intrigued by the story so I googled him. What he did was not illegal because he waited for the prize to reach 3 times the number of potential winning combinations. The government cannot arrest him because he has done nothing wrong. He got jailed because he committed some investment scams. He also did not pay his investors and declared bankruptcy.

source: https://allthatsinteresting.com/stefan-mandel

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 23, 2019, 04:01:45 AM

Quote from: jake zyrus on July 23, 2019, 12:46:27 AM

He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.

We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.

well according to Daily Herald it was Stefan Mandel who was a Math genius and learnt about the algorithm of lottery in Romania and soon migrated to Australia

actually it wasn't 12x but 14 wins from lottery game.and he has lot of investors to have capital in betting the combinations needed to make a win.but now according also to the article he is already bankrupt and had to go in prison several times

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 23, 2019, 04:01:45 AM

Quote from: jake zyrus on July 23, 2019, 12:46:27 AM

He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.

We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.

Agree to that, every government have different rules maybe it can be done from one place but not at the other side of the world, if he really did crack the algorithm of the lotto system and repeated it more and more, like what you have said the eyes for him will surely be hot placing him to person of interest in terms of lottery games.

Lottery jackpot is huge, so winning from this kind gambling is really noticeable.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 22, 2019, 02:27:33 PM

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Quote from: TopTort777 on July 22, 2019, 10:56:00 AM

I wonder if IRL casinos allow him to play.
Btw, it is said, that he "got prisoned". What for ? For being a "mathematical genius"? That's a shame Cheesy

You would able to answer those questions if you tend to watch up the video.
I did watch the video and i would say that it is really possible to hit up jackpots come to think on spending

I would have watched it, but sadly youtube says that “this video is unavailable in your country”...

So this is a region-locked youtube video.So it means that your country does sensor any related videos too.So better use up some VPN to view out these things but be careful yet bypassing or violating
your countries laws can put you in harm.

Quote from: Shinpako09 on July 22, 2019, 09:04:41 PM

I've searched about this guy and I find his winning isn't so amazing and impressive because I found out that he bet all possible combination. I though he is really someone that cracked the code and won 14 times in lottery. He successfully gather investors resulted into 14x victory but he is now bankrupt according to what I've read. Tbh, winning one time with pure luck is more awesome to me.

No he wasnt bankrupt but rather he got imprisoned and being banned on doing lotteries due to that all-betting combination method.This isnt actually cracking a code but rather a simple
betting on all possible combinations.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 23, 2019, 05:00:39 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 22, 2019, 05:27:48 AM

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I wonder how he does that. Grin

but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.

Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see.

I think the most important part is the following:

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

So this made the man historical not just in gambling but the whole world?anyway this is not the act that we can see for our lifetime atleast and will never saw again in the future

The man is really a genius and only in the world.

Why not he didn’t become a Cryptonians so maybe he had shared the skills to others or even share the blessings to us here in gambling section 😂

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 23, 2019, 05:00:39 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 22, 2019, 05:27:48 AM

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I wonder how he does that. Grin

but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.

Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see.

I think the most important part is the following:

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

I have to agree with you, as it is just about probability. We don't have to be genius but we should know how to calculate about the probability of hitting the jackpot compared to how many tickets should be bought in order to make profit. Mandel was just smarter than the one who set the lottery rules as well as smarter than other people so he could calculate the probability to buy the lottery tickets. I do believe he spent a lot of money for it to win that many winnings in the lottery. I can say that he is genius or he exploited the lottery if he won it anytime he buy it with low number of tickets.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on July 22, 2019, 05:27:48 AM

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I wonder how he does that. Grin

but I know he'll keep it himself so he can continue to exploit the lottery.

Watch the YouTube video from the OP and you'll see.

I think the most important part is the following:

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"Mandel's actions caused the US authorities to change the lottery rules so no one would ever repeat his stunt. That made him the first and the last person to perform it in history."

Also, I want to say to many posters above, that you shouldn't be a mathematical genius to figure out that when the Jackpot is 3 times larger than the number of combinations, you should buy as many tickets as you can (all of them in an ideal situation), and then, most likely, you will be in big profit in the end.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 22, 2019, 04:01:03 AM

This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now

I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

Not all people are capable to do that and only few would risk just to attempt what he did. Sadly as common to many gamblers, he got greedy and repeated it for 12 times making him to alert the government then jail him in the end.

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Quote from: jake zyrus on July 23, 2019, 12:46:27 AM

He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.

We didn't know the whole story but for me, once he broke a law he will be punished, especially he traveled for every different country as OP said. And he caught by the government on a country he visited, and every country has different law, maybe on his country some of his action is legal but when he travels and does those actions are illegal there.

Since money is involved here, 'huge' money possible since it is a lottery, eyes of the government here are so hot.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 22, 2019, 04:01:03 AM

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now

I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

for me being so genius on this kind of business isn't safe because you know, after all the blessings you recieved or luck.. There's always a bad things will happen afterwards, like what you mentioned above which some sort of hacking lottery. Wherein because of being so genius he can crack everything. But what happened after ? He go to jail. .lmao

That's why I'm thankful that im not that kind of smart. cause im still enjoying my life outside. Lol

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 22, 2019, 11:10:13 PM

12 Times it proves that gambling can be done with mathematic expert. But maybe if other people try that things too, that people can be end like Stefan Mandel, because in real life, gambling place wouldn't let their players to win easily like that.

It could be just one instance out of millions where a person continuously is winning in the lottery. Else where do you even hear or see that somebody even won couple of times n a lottery is hardly heard so this is something very exceptional .

Yes because if a person won the lottery and it's a decent amount, I don't think they will still continue to gamble.
For me, my target in a lottery is millions and if I win, I can stop gambling and start that money for a business, that would be a big help and I believe luck only comes once.

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Being a genius led him to get imprisoned. Is it a crime?
Is it a good or a bad thing that I ain't good at math? He won 12x in lottery because he's smart, it doesn't mean he's cheating or doing something bad. Since he worked for it, compute for it. He didn't waste his time, efforts, and brain cells just to be imprisoned.

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12 Times it proves that gambling can be done with mathematic expert. But maybe if other people try that things too, that people can be end like Stefan Mandel, because in real life, gambling place wouldn't let their players to win easily like that.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 22, 2019, 04:01:03 AM

This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now

I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

I never have imagined that this was possible, because I have grown knowingly that lottery somehow is a hoax and only the ones that they want to win will win, in short it is an inside job to collect people's money mostly the poor. That guy is awesome and cleared my doubts about lottery, he just shows that winning in legal term is just the same as winning in illegal, all goes to one direction (jail).

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Quote from: shoreno on July 22, 2019, 08:55:57 PM

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Why do you describe it as cheating? Cheating typically means you have broken the rules. If he had broken the terms and conditions (i.e. 'the rules') then he wouldn't have actually won the lottery, or been awarded the prizes.

I would say that whatever he did was likely well within the rules, hence why he won his money fair and square.

cracking the code or hacking in a bad way is illegal and its always against the rules . fair sqaure means you play normally without any hacking or other mathematical equations other than chosing a ranom number based on your mind or based on your birthdate , anniversary date , and other important dates .

That will need more skills to crack the code or hacking, and I don't think that it is easy to do. But the most reason why he can win the lottery, he is at the right time and in the right place, and besides that, he got big luck while he plays so he can win the lottery. If he uses a random method or random number to crack, that will be more difficult to crack the code.

Quote from: shoreno on July 22, 2019, 08:55:57 PM

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I personally believe that if there is a system that can forcibly increase luck, then it should be grabbed with both hands.

This guy thought his way into winning millions, gotta give him a hand for that.

thats impossible , luck comes naturally from person to person and no system can give you an instant luck or a longer validity of luck for certain type of gambling . im surprised that your still proud of the guy despite of his inpapropriate behavior .

Yes, that will be impossible because luck is not something we can understand easily. I think he can do that again in the future because I am sure that the casino will change their algorithm so no one can crack their game again.

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Quote from: shoreno on July 22, 2019, 08:55:57 PM

cracking the code or hacking in a bad way is illegal and its always against the rules . fair sqaure means you play normally without any hacking or other mathematical equations other than chosing a ranom number based on your mind or based on your birthdate , anniversary date , and other important dates .

If he do mathematical equations before choose numbers i don't see any problem. On my national lottery there are some option and can choose more numbers than ussually and that was the way some of people win. (they choose 7 or more numbers and with some system give them a lot of combination, like they buy 40 tickets instead of 1)

He is a smart man and if only the math was involved without any exploit on lottery system i don't see why was arrested. What i want to ask if someone know, he only play on off-line lotteries or only on lotteries who offer online tickets?

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I've searched about this guy and I find his winning isn't so amazing and impressive because I found out that he bet all possible combination. I though he is really someone that cracked the code and won 14 times in lottery. He successfully gather investors resulted into 14x victory but he is now bankrupt according to what I've read. Tbh, winning one time with pure luck is more awesome to me.

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Why do you describe it as cheating? Cheating typically means you have broken the rules. If he had broken the terms and conditions (i.e. 'the rules') then he wouldn't have actually won the lottery, or been awarded the prizes.

I would say that whatever he did was likely well within the rules, hence why he won his money fair and square.

cracking the code or hacking in a bad way is illegal and its always against the rules . fair sqaure means you play normally without any hacking or other mathematical equations other than chosing a ranom number based on your mind or based on your birthdate , anniversary date , and other important dates .

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I personally believe that if there is a system that can forcibly increase luck, then it should be grabbed with both hands.

This guy thought his way into winning millions, gotta give him a hand for that.

thats impossible , luck comes naturally from person to person and no system can give you an instant luck or a longer validity of luck for certain type of gambling . im surprised that your still proud of the guy despite of his inpapropriate behavior .

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He is genius. Winning twice to thrice from lottery is fine with his knowledge but with winning 12x it is really suspicious and inappropriate even in different point of views. How sad how it turns out bad to that guy because of his greediness. It is not luck why he won but because of his high mental ability. Hope he used his power or ability in moderation only or use his relatives identity to buy lottery tickets for him.

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A knowledge will guide you to everything that you want, simply put when you start to earn money you have to pay attention to your knowledge.

Firstly, your knowledge to the field that you choose, if you don't understand again that field it would be better you have to leave it because it will torture you.

Secondly, your ability again the field that you choose. If you feel able to handle everything that will be faced in the future you can open opportunities for what you want.

I know most people consider that lottery is all about lucky but the lucky thing can be inserted with the strategy so as it is likely that 98% of luck will approach us.

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