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August 19, 2019, 04:41:13 PM
I just do not see how he could possibly win 12 times. Are these winnings from actual scratch off tickets or are they games like the mega millions and the powerball?

I do not believe there is any possible mathmatical equation for either option.

Lets say there are 60 numbers in a giant cage blowing around 1 number was to bump with another ball it would throw his equation completely off.

I am far from a mathmatical genius but it just does not seem possible...


Lets say he won on specificly scratchers, how would he know what roll and number in the roll to buy? As well as how would he know where to go in his specific state to find the said roll? It sounds like clickbait to me. Why would he be making youtube videos if he is already rich...

I believe the newest satoshi claiming he lost the keys to his 980,000BTC before I believe that...
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August 19, 2019, 10:57:12 AM
Winning 12 times is not because of luck, I don't believe it's just luck, he won because he is smart and maybe have exploited the system.
Lottery is a kind of game that is hard to win due to gamblers having a little chance of winning, this one is rare.

Agree, maybe he had done something with the system that made him win 12 times because a lot of people already tried there luck in lottery what only very few were lucky enough to win and it's not that they also win consecutive times like 12 times for example. For me, lottery is more on luck and it is like the winner in one in one million.
There are few people who have won the lottery at least once. And even fewer who won a large sum of money. Therefore, winning 12 times is already fantastic.
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August 19, 2019, 10:48:51 AM
Surely there are no more people like Stefan Mandel.
Now there is no way anyone can win the lottery 12 times. At least it can be 2 times in a row, that's also if luck approaches you. So now it's just luck in playing the lottery.

I will okay if I can win 2 times in a row but each winning, I can win the jackpot hahaha Grin

That is only in my dream, and I don't have any luck in the lottery. That man will be the luckiest person who can win the lottery 12 times. That will be hard to beat his record unless we have a luck in every row. But I believe that in the future, that record will be break by other people who can win more than 12 times. We will see it later on the news.
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August 19, 2019, 09:45:58 AM
I'm thinking what if he has the means to do this scheme without the help of investors, he could have won more than 12 times if he can do it all by himself without thinking of investors that will mess with his strategy.

I'm pretty sure somewhere in a country where lotteries are being operated there are syndicates that are working to rigged or exploit the system it's a multi-million dollar business and every business that is as huge as the lottery is prone to corruption.
There's incident which is been reported before that a certain chairman of a board who facilitated the lottery able to rigged the results of a lottery draw and let certain politician wins the jackpot, there's no impossible to anything when it deals with such huge amount of money, syndicate are around and can easily takeover once corrupt officials allowed them to take place.
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August 19, 2019, 09:41:14 AM
If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
Did he mentioned that?i doubt that he didn’t  mate,and he was asking I supposed.
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I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him.
All Lottery bettors are predicting the winning combinations(aside from the topic because he was a genius that calculates the combination)so there’s nothing to highlight that
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In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience
I believe that this is out of topic because we’re in Lottery
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to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.
Never lose temper in understanding some points mate because we have different outlook about matters and that’s hers
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August 19, 2019, 08:15:40 AM
I'm thinking what if he has the means to do this scheme without the help of investors, he could have won more than 12 times if he can do it all by himself without thinking of investors that will mess with his strategy.

I'm pretty sure somewhere in a country where lotteries are being operated there are syndicates that are working to rigged or exploit the system it's a multi-million dollar business and every business that is as huge as the lottery is prone to corruption.
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August 19, 2019, 07:11:39 AM
Actually, I’m starting to be skeptical about such a situation, because 12 consecutive wins
I guess that’s not consecutive winnings mate because in between sometimes on their process they have also failed in their calculations,and you can read the story over internet and there is also a video in YouTube
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is like an abuse of my capabilities by the administration.  Repeatedly in several countries, legal proceedings were held against several companies where the results of the lottery were faked.
Indeed there’re some issues came out year ago and until now that the result of Winners are questionable and there’s a hearsay that government employees (actually someone close to them)are becoming the winner since the anonymity of winners is always there so who knows who really wins?
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August 19, 2019, 06:03:31 AM
That aint getting lucky anymore. As you say, he is a genius in mathematics and have seen all the possible figures. If he did won, then it aint possibility anymore but accurately.
I doubt this because if this statement is even remotely possible then every mathematician can become beat the casino games. Which is again false. Thus the statement of assumption was wrong. Time and again we have seen that probability can only predict an outcome and not definitely is is going to be so.

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Also, this just tells how the system of lotto is rigged.
So technically the player cheated the broken system? That could be called a exploitation too.

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If someone will knew what numbers will pop out to that machine then they are really trying to avoid to have winners every day.
Possible and I would say that the casino was at fault.
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August 16, 2019, 05:27:10 AM
Surely there are no more people like Stefan Mandel.
Now there is no way anyone can win the lottery 12 times. At least it can be 2 times in a row, that's also if luck approaches you. So now it's just luck in playing the lottery.
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August 15, 2019, 11:12:49 PM
Just for fun with some numbers.
I ever make mathematics formula and ms.excel a few years ago. Make some prediction lottery numbers result.

Take the last result the lottery winning number and calculating it with my formula.

There are 100 numbers (00 - 99) and I use 30 - 58 (not randomly) yellow number taken from my formula.

At last, I need the right time, the right place to fill the bet, and luck in my shoot.
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August 15, 2019, 08:18:03 AM
That aint getting lucky anymore. As you say, he is a genius in mathematics and have seen all the possible figures. If he did won, then it aint possibility anymore but accurately.

You cannot mess with this kind of guys.
Also, this just tells how the system of lotto is rigged.
If someone will knew what numbers will pop out to that machine then they are really trying to avoid to have winners every day.
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August 15, 2019, 08:00:06 AM
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He is a real genius, people invents, think and create something out of necessity, it's hard to do that, but unfortunately, he do not have enough money to do this, and he asks people to fund him and that's where the real problems come.

I'm sure lotto operator and government who runs a network of lottery knows about this story and they have a system set up to avoid this, but we cannot avoid people coming in to try to cheat the system.
Wow, hackers are just everywhere, and I never knew that we also have hackers in gambling too, so could this then be classified to fraud and an offense that is punishable? I don’t think we have much of this type of genius around, although we have so many people that are very good with coding but to crack a system 12 times to win, hmm, that would really be an extra ordinary genius, and even if government does everything possible to ensure that this does not happen again, as far as the man is still roaming about the street, I am sure that he too will always find a way around this also, and would not rest until he gets another way to do so, anyway, i envy him, if I had that resources also, I would use it because making legal money is really not easy.
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August 13, 2019, 02:53:44 AM
This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

He is a real genius, people invents, think and create something out of necessity, it's hard to do that, but unfortunately, he do not have enough money to do this, and he asks people to fund him and that's where the real problems come.

I'm sure lotto operator and government who runs a network of lottery knows about this story and they have a system set up to avoid this, but we cannot avoid people coming in to try to cheat the system.

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August 13, 2019, 02:45:20 AM
Incredible of such wins. Actually without one be able to exploit the system it will be impossible to win such time consecutively without any loose. This are the secret we the gamblers need to keep the spirit of gambling awake. If its possible to share the secret, you are very free to do so, for the help of.fellow gamblers, Congratulations mate.
They have been losing it wasn’t just mentioned.and besides at the end he even fail and turns losing ,as what the YouTube video tells
They planned to get one of the biggest stakes in lottery history but they can’t.all the investors have get lower than their capital so I guess they paid for what they have done.
And this means one thing.that no one can truly wins in gambling
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August 12, 2019, 06:29:00 PM
Normally the odds of success in something like lottery is 1 out of 175 million which is very low.
It is way more lower than that as I know about it, many have been playing for almost all of their entire life but never wins the jackpot, even if they win they only get a very small fortune which is just a small compensation for them not to quit playing.

As I can see, games especially lottery has some kind of spell for the gamblers wanting them not to quit even if they win big, just look at that bastard genius, not just once or twice but he made it up 12 times. And that wasn't just a normal thing to do.
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August 12, 2019, 01:48:28 PM
I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.
Yes. This way of dealing lottery is not for people who cannot do this stuff. I think it is important to know the pros and cons of getting involved in lottery. Normally the odds of success in something like lottery is 1 out of 175 million which is very low. Anyways, it is important to understand the stuff related to an investment if you want to put in your money.
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August 11, 2019, 12:35:58 PM
If the numbers are picked using true random integers then this is a statistical impossibility, unless you have bought lots of tickets

And actually that's exactly what he did, he was looking for jackpots from many different lotteries in which he'd win 3 times the amount he'd spend to play every possible combination.
He was playing the combinations from PCs and with the help of people he was registering the tickets to multiple offices.

Pretty simple solution for 100% win chance, as long as you have the strength to print every possible combination!
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August 11, 2019, 12:29:14 PM
I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.


There was nothing wrong with him. The fact is that he is one of the luckiest person who was able to win so many lotteries. Even i couldn't believe first time when i read all this.


I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

He knows what's the odds are and by having enough knowledge on how to calculate the possible wwinning combinations he ended up winning 12 times. only him he can do this kind of thing because of his insane skills about mathematical combinations.

How can a mathematical calculations can determine the outcome of lottery. If this was true, then there are many mathematical guru's who could exploit this system of lottery and earn handsome money.
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August 11, 2019, 03:21:40 AM
I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.
You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.
There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

He knows what's the odds are and by having enough knowledge on how to calculate the possible wwinning combinations he ended up winning 12 times. only him he can do this kind of thing because of his insane skills about mathematical combinations.

I give up. Seriously, I'm not posting in this thread any more. You guys, either just post without reading the OP and comments, or else I don't know how to explain your continuous references to his mathematical geniality.

This thread contains all the answers already. It could be a good source of information regarding the "Man won 12 times in lottery " if there were less replies like this one, quoted by me.
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August 11, 2019, 02:18:09 AM
All these "he/she wins so many times" are just gimmicks to stimulate the hidden gambling tendency in people. If you are someone who watches or reads such news then you are one of those with hidden hunger for gambling. These are many as sponsored content by the casinos to promote themselves and nothing more.

You all should know this by now that even if some one wins a big streak it does not mean you will also win a similar streak. They got lucky so they wont and that does not change your luck. So stop listening to propaganda content and do what you do best. Every gambler has their won method of playing and own choice of games.

There are two type of content will we normally hear about the lottery. Few people will support the lottery system and they will also show us how much  they have won in lottery and how it changes their life. Second type of people will tell you that lottery is just a piece of Sh** and you will never won anything from the lottery.

It depends upon us which of the two point of view impress us and we either participate in lottery or quit/leave it.
The ratio between first and the second time could differentiated into millions so lottery supposed to be in losing business then why still they are making money even after paying huge rewards to the winners?

Second type can be divided into further sub categories like people who keep trying until win,people who play from time to time and people who leave after few bets.
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