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legendary
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July 31, 2019, 02:11:57 AM
So this news is telling me that lottery is a game for geniuses, more specifically for Math Wizards that can even use quadratic formula in their own life? This is quite insane... It almost gave me the feeling that I should quit being an IT, but luckily it doesn't  Tongue

Winning for about 3 times is already enough but that guy is already insane. Really insane and might be a weird guy.
legendary
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July 31, 2019, 01:52:20 AM
If this is an online thing the only way is to exploit the code.

There is no possible way this is casual, I have more chance to get a drink with Rihanna and Kendall Jenner on my bedroom at the same time then wins the lottery 12 times.
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July 30, 2019, 04:28:03 PM
That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.
It's really a big lucky break for someone to have that knowledge and use it to win over the lottery, it's a huge earnings since lottery paid big winnings, if he break that and make it very usable for his advantage it will bring a huge amount of money to grab from the house.
Mandel is a very genius man who came up winning 12 times in a lottery. He is not just a lucky man, but has a very smart and brilliant mind too. Even if i have that one too, i will also make sure to make huge amounts not just in lottery but even in some other gambling sites too. He is not just an ordinary individual alone, but a gifted and blessed one.
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July 30, 2019, 05:36:58 AM
This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.
Now you can see that lotteries are made for pure business, nothing more nothing less. Since some mathematician out there debunked or let's say know the patter to win they change the rules because they will lose more money if they let him continue. This is an eye-opening scenario, I hope some of you now realized that they are doing this not for amusement but mainly to empty your pockets.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   
Actually, I thought this strange thing only happens in movies and novel (I suddenly remember Sylvester of Scorpion) but I guess I was wrong. It was so amazing that math makes everything possible Smiley.
STT
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 03:37:20 AM
That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

He didnt break the code, that might be a feature in some case but this one involved maths and probability calculation which is clever but not past even those without degrees in maths.   Thats why I say its ridiculous that he should put in jail like he broke anything, it seems he took part legally and merely calculated the exact right time to buy up all available tickets.   Even then with probability you can still be wrong, hence he took a risk a good risk but its very unfair to punish fair risk reward.  

This type of calculation in lotteries has taken in a few countries a few different time by various groups.   Its almost always a group because the amounts required are millions usually to best maximise odds.
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July 30, 2019, 02:23:34 AM
That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.
It's really a big lucky break for someone to have that knowledge and use it to win over the lottery, it's a huge earnings since lottery paid big winnings, if he break that and make it very usable for his advantage it will bring a huge amount of money to grab from the house.
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July 30, 2019, 01:45:16 AM
This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0

For me, this is possible to do, and honestly, I think the same way that maybe it can be computed or calculated, but I don't a more great mind to make it possible. Also, winning is not all about luck; sometimes, you need effort, skills, and especially a great mind to make it very easy. Stefan Mandel reminds me of the movie catch me if you can. Smiley
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July 30, 2019, 12:04:45 AM
How di he manage to cracked those codes using mathematical equations?  I didn't watch the video but it's very amazing and wanted to learn those also.

Lotto is a random game that have a small chances of winning. That's  it's still good to organize a lotto using the manual so they can hoard the winning price.
You should have time on watching that video because it doesn't crack anything or any mathematics genius for him to win those lottery.

Just a summation on where he did try to bet all the possible combinations by the help of people funding him on buying those tickets or hoarding them
once they hit the jackpot then they do divide it.

There was really no high amount of genius needed. The man is not a mathematical genius either. It does not need a genius to simply bet on almost or all combinations. But I give him the credit for being able to execute what others might have already thought for a long time. This man is not a mathematical genius but one who might be a genius in convincing the people around him to support his seemingly weird idea.
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July 29, 2019, 11:15:33 PM
That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.

I believe he has high skills in the programming so he can break the lottery algorithm which not all programmer can do. But I don't think that the algorithm was easy to exploit because to break the code, someone needs to master the algorithm so he can be able to crack it. But I would call that he is one of the lucky people who can win 12 times in the lottery game.
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July 29, 2019, 03:07:41 PM
This is interesting.
I've always believed that computer based lottery could be cracked by someone with the required knowledge/skills. But it will be pretty hard to do this on physical lottery or dice.
Computer based random variables are not that random

The thing is that he didn't really crack anything, even though pretty much every article about him states that he did crack the lottery.
He just applied relatively simple odds calculations.

When the prize pool of certain jackpots were high enough, combined with the amount of possible winning number combinations being low enough, he just found investors who would buy up the majority of tickets.
Keep in mind that the total cost of buying these tickets was lower than the amount of money that could be won.

Not that hard really...

That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
Buying all the tickets is a good way to maximize the odds of winning at lottery. This is great trick but for such an execution, you of course need some good amount of dollars which normally not everyone around have. In a given scenario like mentioned in your post, it is not very difficult to be the winner provided you have the investor by your side. IN many cases, investors however do not fund people due to the low odds of success.
But they actually did it.Imagine hitting lottery for 12 times is already a proven strategy and that man managed to get sufficient funding for such lottery bets and with this he made himself being a villain of lottery business. Cheesy
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July 28, 2019, 01:01:48 PM
That's a hell o a genius, cracking a lottery algorithm and creating a model to make it available to other users.  I guess the algorithm were based on some factors that could easliy be exploited- unlike many blockchain-based lottery which are based on transaction hashes, something you cannot predict.
legendary
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July 28, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
How di he manage to cracked those codes using mathematical equations?  I didn't watch the video but it's very amazing and wanted to learn those also.

Lotto is a random game that have a small chances of winning. That's  it's still good to organize a lotto using the manual so they can hoard the winning price.
You should have time on watching that video because it doesn't crack anything or any mathematics genius for him to win those lottery.

Just a summation on where he did try to bet all the possible combinations by the help of people funding him on buying those tickets or hoarding them
once they hit the jackpot then they do divide it.

I see, so there's no solutions happened?

I also doubt it since they made it into computerized, they put an algorithm in lotto where no one can easily get the pattern. Modern technology is very complex now so I think it's really impossible for him to cracked the system and win everyday.
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July 28, 2019, 12:45:11 PM
How di he manage to cracked those codes using mathematical equations?  I didn't watch the video but it's very amazing and wanted to learn those also.

Lotto is a random game that have a small chances of winning. That's  it's still good to organize a lotto using the manual so they can hoard the winning price.
You should have time on watching that video because it doesn't crack anything or any mathematics genius for him to win those lottery.

Just a summation on where he did try to bet all the possible combinations by the help of people funding him on buying those tickets or hoarding them
once they hit the jackpot then they do divide it.
legendary
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Degen in the Space
July 28, 2019, 12:35:57 PM
How di he manage to cracked those codes using mathematical equations?  I didn't watch the video but it's very amazing and wanted to learn those also.

Lotto is a random game that have a small chances of winning. That's  it's still good to organize a lotto using the manual so they can hoard the winning price.
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July 28, 2019, 12:24:58 PM
This answers all your question about odds and hack on the system to win in lottery or gambling.

A man names Stefan Mandel, a mathematical genius cracked the code to win tho lottery. He computed all possible equations and finaly got some algorithms that made him won not just twice but 12 times.

Since the government becomes aware of his motives although it is legal in nature, they change the lottery rules and law for Mandel prevent winning. They even ban computer printing tickets for him to have hindrance. He even go to other countries to test his equations and even got some investors to buy tickets for him to succeed on his winning combination. Unluckily, he got prisoned on the last country and never did the act again.

If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now


I guess being lucky comes to his genius mind in the first place.

Source Link:
https://youtu.be/eOX7acjkGv0
I think it is a huge success for the people who are belonging something to be in their life if he had lots of success in lottery it all about his time and luck so that if we do follow the other things in it also we cannot be successful because lottery are always filled up with you only time.
legendary
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July 28, 2019, 07:40:50 AM
This is interesting.
I've always believed that computer based lottery could be cracked by someone with the required knowledge/skills. But it will be pretty hard to do this on physical lottery or dice.
Computer based random variables are not that random

The thing is that he didn't really crack anything, even though pretty much every article about him states that he did crack the lottery.
He just applied relatively simple odds calculations.

When the prize pool of certain jackpots were high enough, combined with the amount of possible winning number combinations being low enough, he just found investors who would buy up the majority of tickets.
Keep in mind that the total cost of buying these tickets was lower than the amount of money that could be won.

Not that hard really...

That's exactly what happened. Thanks for posting your reply! I tried to explain it earlier, but maybe people need two different explanations, or maybe even more than that, because they keep posting that "mathematical genius" bs.

Also I want to add that the luck factor was involved there as well. His associates couldn't buy all the tickets, so they were lucky that most of the prizes didn't went to "wrong" people.
STT
legendary
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July 27, 2019, 07:25:17 PM
He was sure, I would call it guile more then bravery.   It was just maths and his whole life was a calculation to gift him that tool of insight into the outcomes most likely in this calculated risk.    If a man should carefully plan and place every brick they build throughout their lives towards a destination then there becomes no place on earth that man cannot travel.   If we never progress past the last five minutes in organised thought and aim in our personal objectives, we spend every day going in circles defeating very few larger tasks we might wish to.   
   The fact he ends up in jail for being so clever seems ridiculous but I'm not that surprised, its unfair when one person is able to command a life of knowledge vs most of us who rarely accumulate such effort
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July 26, 2019, 12:53:11 AM
If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now
If I have this kind of ability to crack new algorithms, I will not reveal my true identity Cheesy.

But men, this will take time to learn. I'd rather not to gamble my money in lottery than learning this and in the end, you will fail or will be imprisoned Cheesy.
Yeah, all eyes on that guy because he made a lot of money or maybe he's already part of the gang who wants to collect huge money from the casinos. Worst case here you will not just put in the jail, someone might kill you because of the money you have. Its not easy to won in gambling as always, just have fun playing simple games.

I will be afraid to carry the money to my home if I win that a lot of money because I guess that all eyes in the casino or in out of the casino will watch me. I will ask the security to go to my home so I can feel safe.

Even if that story is true, we don't know what was happening to the person because we are far from his home. But we could see that luck will come to the right person and help that person to win a lot of money like him.
Actually it's safer to carry that money if you will keep it low profile. That way possible robbers won't suspect that you're carrying huge amount of money. Also, I think the money you'll get will go through a check account so you don't need to carry a bunch of cash at a single claim. That man who won 12 times in a lottery is a genius and too brave. Imagine you're buying million of tickets from the money of other people, not sure if you'll really get the jackpot. He's really a living legend who caused the major changes on the rules of lottery.
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July 25, 2019, 10:19:24 PM
If you wanted to crack the code like him, you shoud:
1. Be a mathematical genius
2. Crack the new algorithms for the new system of lottery since its computerized now
If I have this kind of ability to crack new algorithms, I will not reveal my true identity Cheesy.

But men, this will take time to learn. I'd rather not to gamble my money in lottery than learning this and in the end, you will fail or will be imprisoned Cheesy.
Yeah, all eyes on that guy because he made a lot of money or maybe he's already part of the gang who wants to collect huge money from the casinos. Worst case here you will not just put in the jail, someone might kill you because of the money you have. Its not easy to won in gambling as always, just have fun playing simple games.

I will be afraid to carry the money to my home if I win that a lot of money because I guess that all eyes in the casino or in out of the casino will watch me. I will ask the security to go to my home so I can feel safe.

Even if that story is true, we don't know what was happening to the person because we are far from his home. But we could see that luck will come to the right person and help that person to win a lot of money like him.
STT
legendary
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July 25, 2019, 08:37:47 PM
Yes I know someone very good at maths studying at the highest level and have handed him this with orders to come back with a Porsche should my tip be good and so I wait.

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If this story was true, would it be public the name the region and more info about his story?
more info for you:
Heres a normal article - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6106541/Australian-mathematician-uses-secret-formula-win-lotto-14-times.html

Actually this sounds entirely feasible at least in proposition, I know that at least lotteries in my own country are never this generous and really not open in this way however its not impossible if certain conditions are met.     Calculate carefully and cleverly and then then many millions behind you in backing to buy every ticket then perhaps its a win but thats not exactly easy to do for most of us.
   I've investigated similar previously and afaik this story is legit though I have not checked this guy specifically I think its another instance.    Lotto firms go to great measures to avoid predictability, some on occasion can be open to it.
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