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Quote from: TheUltraElite on August 10, 2019, 04:33:48 AM

All these "he/she wins so many times" are just gimmicks to stimulate the hidden gambling tendency in people. If you are someone who watches or reads such news then you are one of those with hidden hunger for gambling. These are many as sponsored content by the casinos to promote themselves and nothing more.

You all should know this by now that even if some one wins a big streak it does not mean you will also win a similar streak. They got lucky so they wont and that does not change your luck. So stop listening to propaganda content and do what you do best. Every gambler has their won method of playing and own choice of games.

There are two type of content will we normally hear about the lottery. Few people will support the lottery system and they will also show us how much they have won in lottery and how it changes their life. Second type of people will tell you that lottery is just a piece of Sh** and you will never won anything from the lottery.

It depends upon us which of the two point of view impress us and we either participate in lottery or quit/leave it.

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I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.

You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.

There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

He knows what's the odds are and by having enough knowledge on how to calculate the possible wwinning combinations he ended up winning 12 times. only him he can do this kind of thing because of his insane skills about mathematical combinations.

He is not just mathematically smart but also street wise.

A lot of people thinks that buying a lot of lottery tickets will boost your probability to win but what he did is apply math into it and with a lot of "investors", he can buy a lot of lottery tickets to win. Obviously he did something that can increase that more like printing tickets in their base, which is illegal nowadays.

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All these "he/she wins so many times" are just gimmicks to stimulate the hidden gambling tendency in people. If you are someone who watches or reads such news then you are one of those with hidden hunger for gambling. These are many as sponsored content by the casinos to promote themselves and nothing more.

You all should know this by now that even if some one wins a big streak it does not mean you will also win a similar streak. They got lucky so they wont and that does not change your luck. So stop listening to propaganda content and do what you do best. Every gambler has their won method of playing and own choice of games.

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Quote from: Question123 on August 09, 2019, 09:22:06 AM

I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.

You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.

There must be something wrong with him. But the fact that he had won for 12 times already, he's not just lucky but a smart guy really. I think even if there is a very small chance winning in lottery, there is really that one lucky person who will stand out among others.

Of course he wasn't just lucky, but neither he was a mathematical genius. If you'll watch the video from the OP and read a couple of articles on the case, you'll see that he was playing games with positive EV, so there's no wonder he profited in the end. But I would compare his behavior with someone who buys out all goods with big discount leaving other people without opportunity to benefit from the discount sale. That's what he was doing basically, because it was meant that many participants of the lottery would win bigger prizes than they usually could.

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Quote from: Question123 on August 09, 2019, 09:22:06 AM

I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.

You can get the current status of the man who won lotteries 12 time if you read the OP throughly.He was banned from playing lotteries on his country and when he moved to other country where he got arrested for his continuous winning activity on lottery.

That just shows that no one like that you know how to win at something.He got arrested because he won a lottery and far as I know winning a lottery is not considered a crime.People who organize lotteries do so for their own benefit and casual winners do not harm their activity but types like this man makes them angry and because they pay huge taxes to the country they got government support and arrested him.

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Here is one such personality who has won lottery four times using mathematical calculation. Her name is Joan R. Ginther and first she won it in the year 1993. Her second win happened after a long in 2006, the third one two years later on 2008 and won a $10 million in 2010.

Your post just draw my attention to what I known but seem confused since I read the op message. If someone won 12 consecutively on lottery, does that mean that, he bet on the lottery ? Because all I know about lottery is that, you win because you are chosen among other competitors. Although, that was a good opportunity that he really seized.

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I think this is the history of winning in lotto who same person who won 12 times. My dream is to win only once in lotto so I try my luck to bet and to pick my lucky number and to win even hundred thousands dollars per draw. How much is the total he won? He still bet in lotto and try again to win for his 13th win? Im very excited if he win again and I will follow him so I can win also.

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Quote from: vintages on August 08, 2019, 05:53:15 AM

I guess this complement this thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-choose-lottery-instead-of-anything-else-5172095
Personally I wouldn't have thought lottery can be better than slot or casino gambling. Well, this also implies that nothing is impossible.
Using mathematical means to crack the likely number is good but the process may take quite sometime. If one is always certain about the numbers then the long wait is worth it.

As he mentioned that he won 12 times it means he must bought allot of tickets and all of h must cost small amount. I once bought a ticket and I won but unfortunately after that I never get a chance to buy but still not late i will try to buy this time if ever got a chance. Yet I am investing in crypto wish me to be lucky same as the person buddy.

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Lol. I don't even think lotteries should be in the same discussion as investments 😁 any sensible person would know there's a world of difference there. And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times? I've heard stories back in the days of how lotteries can be rigged through magnets inside the lottery balls. I'm not so sure how that can work now.

Haha I think the lottery is gambling and gambling is not an investment even investment is not the same as trading.
And it does sound strange to win the lottery 12 times in a row, even that is impossible for me. If that's true, I'm sure people who play the lottery have understood the lottery rules on the site or know the bugs, like in online games, I find a lot of youtube videos that explain bugs to get jackpot items in the game and I've tried it myself, maybe he does things like that.

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I guess this complement this thread; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-choose-lottery-instead-of-anything-else-5172095
Personally I wouldn't have thought lottery can be better than slot or casino gambling. Well, this also implies that nothing is impossible.
Using mathematical means to crack the likely number is good but the process may take quite sometime. If one is always certain about the numbers then the long wait is worth it.

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Actually, I’m starting to be skeptical about such a situation, because 12 consecutive wins is like an abuse of my capabilities by the administration. Repeatedly in several countries, legal proceedings were held against several companies where the results of the lottery were faked.

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And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times?

Nope. Imagine this, if you have won already a jackpot then make a bet on all combinations to it, then surely you'll hit the jackpot again, but in terms of lottery with random draw then it would be impossible, even if it happens twice on the same person then that would just be luck.
P.S. Not all lottery games has the same system, features and rules. So every strategy varies on every game.

Quote from: Japinat on August 05, 2019, 11:06:49 PM

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check ...

Yeah right. Besides playing lottery is just like turning your money into an airplane and throw it while expecting, it will return back to the owner.

This is the reason why most people feel happy to check their luck in lottery as much as I know lottery is about luck to win and same as the person said no one can take your luck and what you deserve will surely come to you. I am happy that I have some lottery tickets in my saving and now praying to be lucky.

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If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

Seriously?
Why are you saying that if we predict rightly about lottery then we are not allowed to play?
Why?
I am certain we should play only lottery if we predict rightly, just like him. In sports betting gamblers do hard working to get experience to search a right strategy and prediction and he is already blessed then you suggest him to quit the lottery, Strange.

Did you forget to read the question mark at last?

I am just asking the same thing you were asked.

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Quote from: Thanasis on August 04, 2019, 01:14:47 PM

If he computed the possible result by himself then why government arrested him?

lottery is about predictions right,if we predict the things rightly we are not allowed to play?

You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

So cheating is possible if there is some insiders.

Oh i really forget to see it, Actually, i was so surprised on it that anyone could think like it. That someone win the lottery and police arrest him?

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My friend, not 100 tickets, here we speak about million tickets at least. Check around, people have tried this already, and they did the math.
The Mega Millions jackpot is up to $1.6 billion. 302,575,350 possible combinations of Mega Millions numbers. At $2 for each ticket, then, it would be possible to buy every possible ticket for $605,150,700.

To be honest, I am shocked to see what you're explaining, and I never thought that involves big money to win. I never calculated or searching about how much chance for people to win the lottery and when I see your image, geez that is huge money we need to win.

Quote from: Barbut on August 06, 2019, 04:07:07 AM

Even if you have so much money, buying tickets would still be a problem, you can`t buy all of them in one place! The machine generates some amount of tickets per hour (I found information around 50 tickets per hour) if you need millions of tickets you will need many people going around buying tickets for all 5 days of the week.

I don't think that one person can buy a lot of ticket at the same time, and I think the casino or gambling places would not allow people to do that. But perhaps, we could ask our friends to buy a lot of tickets, and we can make a queue with other people in the gambling places hahaha.

So we know that the chance for one person to win the lottery is small. We cannot buy a lot of tickets because we could only buy 50 tickets per hour and we need more people or friends to help us to buy the tickets. That is why the lottery places can make a huge profit from people who bought the lottery tickets.

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Quote from: Malsetid on August 06, 2019, 06:39:53 AM

And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times?

Nope. Imagine this, if you have won already a jackpot then make a bet on all combinations to it, then surely you'll hit the jackpot again, but in terms of lottery with random draw then it would be impossible, even if it happens twice on the same person then that would just be luck.
P.S. Not all lottery games has the same system, features and rules. So every strategy varies on every game.

Quote from: Japinat on August 05, 2019, 11:06:49 PM

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check ...

Yeah right. Besides playing lottery is just like turning your money into an airplane and throw it while expecting, it will return back to the owner.

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You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check because chances of winning in a lottery is almost zero, or less than 1%. Maybe if you are the one operating a lottery, that's what you called yourself investing in.

Lol. I don't even think lotteries should be in the same discussion as investments 😁 any sensible person would know there's a world of difference there. And it's almost impossible for someone to win major lotteries once, what are the possibilities of winning multiple times? I've heard stories back in the days of how lotteries can be rigged through magnets inside the lottery balls. I'm not so sure how that can work now.

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The answer to this is because the prizes are too big so he can not distract his mind to other things. The video will not show how many tickets he bought because that will not make people interest with the lottery. Perhaps, we only saw some tickets from him, but I guess that will be more than 100 tickets and I think he spends a lot of money. The truth from this is we cannot win easy the lottery without having luck, but it seems, people don't realize about that, and they still hoping to win the prize from the lottery. Yes, million dollars will be needed to win the game, and we don't realize how much money we spent in the end.

My friend, not 100 tickets, here we speak about million tickets at least. Check around, people have tried this already, and they did the math.
The Mega Millions jackpot is up to $1.6 billion. 302,575,350 possible combinations of Mega Millions numbers. At $2 for each ticket, then, it would be possible to buy every possible ticket for $605,150,700.

Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/mega-millions-lottery-buying-every-ticket-math-2018-10
How MIT Students Won $8 Million in the Massachusetts Lottery?The math whizzes quickly discovered that buying about $100,000 in Cash WinFall tickets on those days would virtually guarantee success. Buying $600,000 worth of tickets would bring a 15%–20% return on investment.
Source: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/07/how-mit-students-scammed-the-massachusetts-lottery-for-8-million/

Even if you have so much money, buying tickets would still be a problem, you can`t buy all of them in one place! The machine generates some amount of tickets per hour (I found information around 50 tickets per hour) if you need millions of tickets you will need many people going around buying tickets for all 5 days of the week.

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Not worth the risk. No matter how many tickets you buy or how many lottery syndicates you join, the odds against the player are massive. It's still a big gamble. Too many people have spent years and tens of thousands of dollars chasing that elusive big win, only to die poor. No thanks. I'm not sold.

Yes, of course, that is not worth if we don't know or don't have good skills in cracking the code like that person. But if we have high-skills like him, I guess we will try to beat the system, and with our skills, we will try hard and perhaps, we have a chance to win like him. But still, that will be too risky for us because we can get caught by the system and that will be dangerous to us because we can get jail. I won't do that thing too like you because besides I don't have the skills to crack the code, I know that if I want to play or buy the lottery, I will need much money and that doesn't guarantee for me to win the prizes.

What people don`t understand is that for every system you need a lot of money to run it, there`s a minimum investment to cover basics and there`s always maximum investment to cover everything. If you noticed in the entire video we didn`t see how many lottery tickets he bought for every lottery, he didn`t win with just one ticket, he needed combinations, and more combinations mean more tickets, more tickets mean higher investment. He only states that you need to calculate possible combinations and lottery prize needs to be at least 3 times as big as the number of combinations. For a lottery that has 37 numbers, you need millions of dollars!

The answer to this is because the prizes are too big so he can not distract his mind to other things. The video will not show how many tickets he bought because that will not make people interest with the lottery. Perhaps, we only saw some tickets from him, but I guess that will be more than 100 tickets and I think he spends a lot of money. The truth from this is we cannot win easy the lottery without having luck, but it seems, people don't realize about that, and they still hoping to win the prize from the lottery. Yes, million dollars will be needed to win the game, and we don't realize how much money we spent in the end.

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You maybe wrong here. Lottery is not about the predictions. Betting is used for the predictions. Lottery means that you take part in it with certain amount and if your name is chosen you will win big amount else you will lose your investment.

I wouldn't call that investment, besides bets are just money that seems like tokens on some arcades and then the winnings are just some compensations. Investments have risks but not like on gambling where risks are extremely in chances.

If one would call betting in lottery is a form of investment, he needs some reality check because chances of winning in a lottery is almost zero, or less than 1%. Maybe if you are the one operating a lottery, that's what you called yourself investing in.

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Quote from: slaman29 on August 05, 2019, 04:20:03 AM

I heard of this before and in fact even in small systems of gambling, especially with the ones that rely on horse bets, where the odds are always changed depending on demand, people can go in and manipulate the odds by placing big bets on some horses, and eventually whatever result, they make money.

Some people are math geniuses indeed, but I wouldn't say that's something you can always rely on:)

I am having a hard time believing that he was able to do it for 12 times without getting caught, he was lucky but at the same time very greedy too. @slaman29 yes people do it on horse races, and their calculations will stun people because we can’t even think the way they calculate in their minds. I’ll agree with you relying on maths is a bad idea, because casinos are evolving and chances are one can get it completely wrong and incur lots of debts.

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