Topic: Manny Pacquiao Might Fight Golovkin - page 10. (Read 1436 times)
If the fight would happen, that would be a great fight, this is the best time for Manny Pacquiao to show his strength to everyone even though he is already 41 years old, he is still great at boxing, he strength of his left arm is still the same as before and the speed is somehow the same as before, that is why Manny Pacquiao is really great boxing. I am also in Philippine so I would support him instead of Golovkin, I don't know much somethings about the opponent of the Manny but I think it would be still great because it's a fight of Manny. It is always interesting to watch Pacquiao, aside from being a humble boxer, he is really a good person, he helps so many people here during the lockdown.
IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.
Coudn't agree more! Manny admitted that the fight between him and Margarito is a rugged battle -- what more if his next opponent would be Gennady which I think is too much for Manny at this time.Still, the age difference, height and Tripe G's only one loss from Canelo is a huge risk in Manny's winning percentage. If this happens and Manny manages to win this fight, I would consider him as the "Greatest boxer of all time".
GGG is not too much for Manny. He is bigger of course but I believe Manny can handle him pretty well.
Coach Freddie would not be considering this fight in the first place if he believes his fighter does not have a chance.
Manny is already the greatest boxer of all time. No other boxer in the whole history of the sport has ever been an 8-division world champion.
But would this be more interesting than the Manny vs GGG fight? I mean I believe GGG vs Manny would generate more money for both.
I like the GGG vs Manny fight, this is better than the Canelo vs GGG IMHO since people have already seen them fight before but this is a new one, Manny is looking for another history, this will hype people and as we can see when Manny fight, he has a lot for fans in the ring, and I agree with you that this will generate more money for both, good for a boxer who might retire after this fight.
GGG is definitely not the "best out there" as Roach portrays him, not anymore at least. As a matter of fact, his performance lately has showed that he has indeed aged.
Manny has a higher chance to win against a bigger opponent in GGG at the latter's age.
But I don't think this match possibility has even reached the party of GGG yet. This is more of a speculation right now. For a long time, GGG has chased Canelo. He's gotten old but he didn't forget that he has yet to finish his business with him. He still wants to get that chance for a revenge.
Manny has a higher chance to win against a bigger opponent in GGG at the latter's age.
But I don't think this match possibility has even reached the party of GGG yet. This is more of a speculation right now. For a long time, GGG has chased Canelo. He's gotten old but he didn't forget that he has yet to finish his business with him. He still wants to get that chance for a revenge.
GGG has slowed, I noticed the same but Manny looks like a young Manny who can beat a younger and stronger fighter than him, that is because of his technique in boxing, also, his experience and being the only 8th division world champion made his confidence to boost high, and no opponent that he will not agree to fight with. GGG is big, but Manny has been fighting big opponents in his career.
The GGG-Canelo trilogy was actually already agreed between parties, and was hoped to be staged on Sept. 12. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alvarez-vs-golovkin-the-trilogy-weve-all-been-waiting-for-5233606
But would this be more interesting than the Manny vs GGG fight? I mean I believe GGG vs Manny would generate more money for both.
Would this man cut himself some slack. I mean, do he even know how to take a rest LOL or do he just love fighting that much.
I agree, man. Am not trying to drag down Pacman here. But he's aging and showed that he slowed down. Manny might be good for first few rounds but as the match up goes on he might not be able to take up with GGG.
Upon his last fight with Keith. If Manny didn't knocked down Keith from the early down, he possibly won't win there. As I see Keith took up the next few rounds there. What I am tryin' to point out here, Manny isn't the typical Manny who can go all out, all in 12 rounds. Simply because he's old, that's it.
Looking around some updates with Manny, well, I stumble upon Bob Arum's wish here. And it seems more realistic than Pacquaio vs Golovkin. But whatever, Pacquaio shouldn't take the fight whoever between the two.
IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.
I agree, man. Am not trying to drag down Pacman here. But he's aging and showed that he slowed down. Manny might be good for first few rounds but as the match up goes on he might not be able to take up with GGG.
Upon his last fight with Keith. If Manny didn't knocked down Keith from the early down, he possibly won't win there. As I see Keith took up the next few rounds there. What I am tryin' to point out here, Manny isn't the typical Manny who can go all out, all in 12 rounds. Simply because he's old, that's it.
Looking around some updates with Manny, well, I stumble upon Bob Arum's wish here. And it seems more realistic than Pacquaio vs Golovkin. But whatever, Pacquaio shouldn't take the fight whoever between the two.
I'm one of those who voted that GGG will win. I'm a big Manny Pacquaio fan, but here is my reasoning.
First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.
Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.
Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.
You cant really say he hasnt something on his tank and with this kind of stats?First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.
Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.
Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.
Do you really think that we would see him without giving a fight? With that KO percentage 83.33%
I would say that this shouldnt really be taken easily by Pacquiao and also he should be ready on
strengthening his lower body even more as we can see with one of GG explosives which are mostly on
solid body shots.
If this is a prime Pacquiao, I could see him and win against Golovkin. But at the current version of Manny? No, he will take more damage from the Margarito fight and could end up being knock out in the mid to later rounds.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
If this match will ever push thru, it will be an exciting fight to watch.
And if in case Pacquiao wins, then, he again breaks all those hesitations in the boxing world towards him.
So when will we know if this fight will gonna happen?
Gonna be interesting if they truly push this match...
People are still rooting for Pacquiao here based on the poll.
Definitely, it will be an exciting fight to watch. That is a big "IF", but as I have said, this is a lose-lose situation for Manny, catch weight fight, fighting when Golovkin is already on the downhill. Again, no question about it we all love Manny here, but this is not for his best interest, specially health wise as GGG is not a regular fighter, Manny might seriously get hurt here. Let Golovkin finish his trilogy with Canelo and let Pacquiao fight the best of 147 division. No need for them to cross path, specially at this point of their careers. And after his win against the biggest guy he fought in Antonio Margarito:
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Pacquiao's take: "This was my most physical and punishing fight. Antonio Margarito had such a reach and weight advantage over me. My ribs ached for a long time after that fight. Once was enough for me at that weight. When I was asked if I wanted to defend [the title] I said, 'No thanks!' That was the fight where I had reached my limit in terms of weight class. I fought a very good fight and the atmosphere at Cowboys Stadium was so memorable. I do think the fight should have been stopped. Margarito took a lot of punishment."
https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/15132011/ranking-manny-pacquiao-eight-division-titles
IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.
Coudn't agree more! Manny admitted that the fight between him and Margarito is a rugged battle -- what more if his next opponent would be Gennady which I think is too much for Manny at this time.Still, the age difference, height and Tripe G's only one loss from Canelo is a huge risk in Manny's winning percentage. If this happens and Manny manages to win this fight, I would consider him as the "Greatest boxer of all time".
Manny still has it and many people believe that, a ninth title is possible but GGG is not Margarito who catch all punches in his face he is a counter puncher and a big puncher I prefer them to fight not in the middle weight where Golovkin is dangerous a catch weight is good like the super welterweight or light middleweight, the additional weight could slow down Manny.
I'm one of those who voted that GGG will win. I'm a big Manny Pacquaio fan, but here is my reasoning.
First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.
Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.
Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.
First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.
Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.
Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.
GGG is definitely not the "best out there" as Roach portrays him, not anymore at least. As a matter of fact, his performance lately has showed that he has indeed aged.
Manny has a higher chance to win against a bigger opponent in GGG at the latter's age.
But I don't think this match possibility has even reached the party of GGG yet. This is more of a speculation right now. For a long time, GGG has chased Canelo. He's gotten old but he didn't forget that he has yet to finish his business with him. He still wants to get that chance for a revenge.
The GGG-Canelo trilogy was actually already agreed between parties, and was hoped to be staged on Sept. 12. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alvarez-vs-golovkin-the-trilogy-weve-all-been-waiting-for-5233606
Manny has a higher chance to win against a bigger opponent in GGG at the latter's age.
But I don't think this match possibility has even reached the party of GGG yet. This is more of a speculation right now. For a long time, GGG has chased Canelo. He's gotten old but he didn't forget that he has yet to finish his business with him. He still wants to get that chance for a revenge.
The GGG-Canelo trilogy was actually already agreed between parties, and was hoped to be staged on Sept. 12. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alvarez-vs-golovkin-the-trilogy-weve-all-been-waiting-for-5233606
Let's do the math here:
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De la Hoya
The fight was for the regular welterweight division (147 lbs) but Oscar is just 145 lbs during the weigh-in and Manny was at 142 lbs. It was very visually notable also that Oscar did not re-hydrate after the weigh in and Manny was the bigger fighter come fight night. Manny was 29 years old then and Oscar was 35, plus the fact that Roach once trained Oscar and the former quoted "Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore" thus making this fight on Manny's advantage when the two climbed the ring.
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito
The fight was for the WBC Super Welterweight championship (154 lbs) but in a 150 lbs catch weight. Margarito was 32 years old and Manny was 31, not a factor on this fight but the 150 lbs catch weight really was a factor.
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Golovkin (Proposed)
Manny Pacquiao is campaigning at 147 lbs while GGG at 160 lbs. Manny is 41 years old and GGG is 38. Both fighters are on a downhill of their career.
IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.
On the other hand, i think this is just a hype so Manny's name will be talked about in the boxing world but the real target opponent of Team Pacman is Mickey Garcia.
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De la Hoya
The fight was for the regular welterweight division (147 lbs) but Oscar is just 145 lbs during the weigh-in and Manny was at 142 lbs. It was very visually notable also that Oscar did not re-hydrate after the weigh in and Manny was the bigger fighter come fight night. Manny was 29 years old then and Oscar was 35, plus the fact that Roach once trained Oscar and the former quoted "Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore" thus making this fight on Manny's advantage when the two climbed the ring.
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito
The fight was for the WBC Super Welterweight championship (154 lbs) but in a 150 lbs catch weight. Margarito was 32 years old and Manny was 31, not a factor on this fight but the 150 lbs catch weight really was a factor.
>>Manny Pacquiao vs Golovkin (Proposed)
Manny Pacquiao is campaigning at 147 lbs while GGG at 160 lbs. Manny is 41 years old and GGG is 38. Both fighters are on a downhill of their career.
IMO, even if the fight will take place at 154 lbs, Manny would still lose as GGG will be too big for him though a little slower than Manny but he is a heavy puncher and a single punch from him would slow down Manny. I'm a Pacman fan and personally i don't want this fight to happen as this would damage Manny's health.
On the other hand, i think this is just a hype so Manny's name will be talked about in the boxing world but the real target opponent of Team Pacman is Mickey Garcia.
I thought he will be fighting crawford a much younger boxer but i guess there's no merit for him in those fighters as they're only rising stars.
Golovkin is a perfect match and it might trigger floyd to come out of hiding, if that is his main goal.
Golovkin is a perfect match and it might trigger floyd to come out of hiding, if that is his main goal.
And I thought it would be Mikey Garcia.
Mikey Garcia, Spence, or Crawford, this is the front runner for a Pacquiao sweepstakes. So we really don't know how Golovkin's name came into picture.
We've been talking here about it and we thought that if Manny could fight Garcia, Manny would clapped Mikey Garcia. I am not belittling Garcia, it is just that it is clear that Manny could KO this boxer. In terms of Golovkin, I think this would be a fight just like Margarito where Manny would be fighting another fighter with height advantage against him.
Pacquaio for most of his career, specially when he move up to the Welterweight division has been fighting taller guys. So I guess we can say that he is comfortable is that zone. However, GGG is a natural 160-168 lbs, so not just height but weight advantage. Manny's camp should not take this, there are more bigger fish to fry in the Welterweight division.
Age is just a number for Pacquiao, he is still capable to fight younger boxer and confident to give his country another honor.
On the other side Golovkin is quite tall and an achiever boxer too. This would be a good fight if push through.
I will look forward for another fight of Manny, for sure it will be exciting again.
On the other side Golovkin is quite tall and an achiever boxer too. This would be a good fight if push through.
I will look forward for another fight of Manny, for sure it will be exciting again.
I thought he will be fighting crawford a much younger boxer but i guess there's no merit for him in those fighters as they're only rising stars.
Golovkin is a perfect match and it might trigger floyd to come out of hiding, if that is his main goal.
Golovkin is a perfect match and it might trigger floyd to come out of hiding, if that is his main goal.
And I thought it would be Mikey Garcia.
We've been talking here about it and we thought that if Manny could fight Garcia, Manny would clapped Mikey Garcia. I am not belittling Garcia, it is just that it is clear that Manny could KO this boxer. In terms of Golovkin, I think this would be a fight just like Margarito where Manny would be fighting another fighter with height advantage against him.
If this is a prime Pacquiao, I could see him and win against Golovkin. But at the current version of Manny? No, he will take more damage from the Margarito fight and could end up being knock out in the mid to later rounds.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
If this match will ever push thru, it will be an exciting fight to watch.
And if in case Pacquiao wins, then, he again breaks all those hesitations in the boxing world towards him.
So when will we know if this fight will gonna happen?
Gonna be interesting if they truly push this match...
People are still rooting for Pacquiao here based on the poll.
@Russlenat - You can't compare Manny vs taller guys like Anthony Margarito and and ODLH vs GGG.
You have to look at why they obviously cherry pick those guys when Pacquaio is at the peak of his career.
1. ODLH was already way past his prime that time.
2. Anthony Margarito yes he is powerful but he is too slow.
3. Both fights are in catch weights.
And we don't know why Freddie Roach is talking about fighting GGG. Maybe he is just excited to see Manny in the ring, but GGG, I don't think so.
You have to look at why they obviously cherry pick those guys when Pacquaio is at the peak of his career.
1. ODLH was already way past his prime that time.
2. Anthony Margarito yes he is powerful but he is too slow.
3. Both fights are in catch weights.
And we don't know why Freddie Roach is talking about fighting GGG. Maybe he is just excited to see Manny in the ring, but GGG, I don't think so.
If this is a prime Pacquiao, I could see him and win against Golovkin. But at the current version of Manny? No, he will take more damage from the Margarito fight and could end up being knock out in the mid to later rounds.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
We all love Pacquiao because of his aggressive style but Golovkin is too big for him and he can't even make 160 lbs. And if this fight happens on a catch weight, and Manny wins, detractors will say that he win because Golovkin is weight drain. So this is not a good option for Manny today. He should chase bigger names in 147 lbs like Crawford and Errol Spence Jr.
Manny Pacquiao likes to fight with a boxer who will face him straight and also aggressive like him. This is a very good match since Golovkin is also someone who likes to stand up in front of a fighter and not run around like Floyd. Both of them had proven their skills already. The problem is that there is Covid. It might just be for the PPV. I'm gonna be betting for Pacquiao win or loss.
That would surely be the arrangement since we are still on a pandemic situation then we would see another event with having no crowd or simply being remoted.
It doesnt matter though as long this fight would happen or be arranged.Lots of people will anticipate this one and when it comes to PPV price then expect that it
would really be more higher compared to its normal price wayback but to understand that this is the way on where they do generate revenue then its understandable.
Im with Manny Pacquiao on here because he do like aggressive opponents the question is if he would still have the stamina compared to Golovkin? for belt
to belt stance.
I think he has still the stamina to fight, if he will stay in shape and do the training like in his previous fights, I am more than positive that he has still the power. I also do like fighters who fight toe to toe as it is not boring for the audience, either PPV or actual. But more than likely, it will be PPV as large crowd in the coming months is still not advisable to most sports. I don't like fighter like Floyd as he is calculating his moves to the point that he is running away from his opponent. Pacquiao is like a street fighter, he will not stop unless he doesn't have the energy to box anymore. So yeah, I'll still go for Pacquiao in this match.
Thank you for your insightful comments guys, I created this thread but I forgot to vote, lol.. anyway voted for The champ.
Im with Manny Pacquiao on here because he do like aggressive opponents the question is if he would still have the stamina compared to Golovkin? for belt
to belt stance.
Same here, we like to see both fighters being aggressive so the fight will not be boring.
I can see some possible scenario going to happen if Manny will beat GGG, next event would be a Mayweather vs Canelo rematch and if Mayweather wins, Manny vs Mayweather 2 will be next, then they can both peacefully retire.
Im with Manny Pacquiao on here because he do like aggressive opponents the question is if he would still have the stamina compared to Golovkin? for belt
to belt stance.
Same here, we like to see both fighters being aggressive so the fight will not be boring.
I can see some possible scenario going to happen if Manny will beat GGG, next event would be a Mayweather vs Canelo rematch and if Mayweather wins, Manny vs Mayweather 2 will be next, then they can both peacefully retire.
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