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June 10, 2020, 06:15:34 AM
Golovkin is the most feared fighter in the Welterweight division and a natural Welterweight and still reigning despite facing a pretty good boxer Canelo. Manny maybe his first true test, i only wish that they've faced sooner when they we're still in there prime.
Please get your facts straight before posting, GGG never campaign in the welterweight division in this entire career. He was a natural Middleweight, 160 lbs, so I don't know if you really know your boxing or what.
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June 09, 2020, 07:41:21 PM
There are lots of fights wherein Pacquiao seems to be the underdog. People are mainly looking at stats without realizing it won't work on Pacquiao. Even some boxing analysts failed many times that Pacquiao will lose example vs. Margarito, vs. Cotto, vs. Thurman, vs. Dela Hoya, vs. Mosley although not that big compare to GGG, still, Pacquaio is the underdog.

I'm not disregarding the stats of GGG but he too is already past his prime.

The match will be equal and both fighters have advantages and disadvantages. It will now depend on who's strategy will win.
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June 09, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
I am pretty sure that Manny will win this fight because he is really a hard working person. He wouldn't waste his time for nonsense thing whenever he has a fight. He makes sure that he will win his battle that's why he spends a lot of time in training and he has discipline on his diet in order to maintain his weight.

Against Crawford? Maybe. During the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight, I thought that Manny had less than 10% chance of a win. But still he won that fight. But against Golovkin? It's going to be impossible. Just compare Manny and GGG side by side and you will get the picture. Golovkin is huge. He would stand out like Goliath in front of Manny. If this fight ever happens, then GGG would be having a heavy advantage.

GG wouldn't be confident standing in front of Manny Pacquiao when a right cross hits his chin. Of course, Golovkin has the advantage here. He is younger and probably still in training while there is Covid while Manny just sat in his office wearing mask every day and doing paper works.  Manny doesn't talk much but we just have t find out in the ring when the rumble starts. I like to watch fighters who go forward all the time like Pacquiao and GGG, a good match to watch.
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June 09, 2020, 12:43:06 PM
I am pretty sure that Manny will win this fight because he is really a hard working person. He wouldn't waste his time for nonsense thing whenever he has a fight. He makes sure that he will win his battle that's why he spends a lot of time in training and he has discipline on his diet in order to maintain his weight.

Against Crawford? Maybe. During the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight, I thought that Manny had less than 10% chance of a win. But still he won that fight. But against Golovkin? It's going to be impossible. Just compare Manny and GGG side by side and you will get the picture. Golovkin is huge. He would stand out like Goliath in front of Manny. If this fight ever happens, then GGG would be having a heavy advantage.
Thats why we do have division in boxing and Pacquiao would need to cope up with the required weight for him to be able to pass that weigh in which is 160 lbs in Middleweight division and since he do after with this division then he would need to go into that weight which i can say that it will surely affect its speed and footwork since he's not get used to this body mass.

On an interview from GGG on where he do said that Pacquiao is just too small for him which is actually right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfFlY9lEG0
but he would stood a chance since GGG isnt really that a too moving type of boxer. Hard punches = yes, but for footwork and speed then we can say that
Pacquiao does have the advantage.
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June 09, 2020, 12:25:55 PM
I am pretty sure that Manny will win this fight because he is really a hard working person. He wouldn't waste his time for nonsense thing whenever he has a fight. He makes sure that he will win his battle that's why he spends a lot of time in training and he has discipline on his diet in order to maintain his weight.

Against Crawford? Maybe. During the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight, I thought that Manny had less than 10% chance of a win. But still he won that fight. But against Golovkin? It's going to be impossible. Just compare Manny and GGG side by side and you will get the picture. Golovkin is huge. He would stand out like Goliath in front of Manny. If this fight ever happens, then GGG would be having a heavy advantage.
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June 09, 2020, 12:22:24 PM
I agree with you here, this fight won't happen as they may be problem on what weight they would meet and basing on the article, GGG won't go south of 160 lbs and for Manny to fight at that weight is a suicide, besides there are now talks that the later would fight Crawford. This would be less dangerous for Pacquiao but still a dangerous one for him.

Golovin won't go below his weight class and it is not possible for Pacquiao to go up in order to fight against GGG. Crawford vs Manny may happen this year, according to Bob Arum. I hope that GGG may agree to a fight against Pacquiao next year, but as I said before there are a lot of practical challenges. In case the fight happens, then it will be one of the biggest in Manny's career.
I am pretty sure that Manny will win this fight because he is really a hard working person. He wouldn't waste his time for nonsense thing whenever he has a fight. He makes sure that he will win his battle that's why he spends a lot of time in training and he has discipline on his diet in order to maintain his weight.
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June 09, 2020, 12:16:40 PM
That will make Pacman improve his ranking among the greatest boxers in boxing history, so since it's Freddy Roach who is spreading this, and that is coming from Manny's camp, we can say that Manny want this fight, so it's up to GGG if he will agree with Manny as for sure he would also make a good payday once this fight will be realized.
Coach Freddy Roach crazy thoughts about this fight might be swayed by a promoter. I hope when this fight happen, I am not daydreaming.

I don't think Manny Pacquiao will look at the money he will earn in this fight. He always thrives for challenges when the obstacles are tougher to handle.
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June 09, 2020, 11:54:04 AM
I agree with you here, this fight won't happen as they may be problem on what weight they would meet and basing on the article, GGG won't go south of 160 lbs and for Manny to fight at that weight is a suicide, besides there are now talks that the later would fight Crawford. This would be less dangerous for Pacquiao but still a dangerous one for him.

Golovin won't go below his weight class and it is not possible for Pacquiao to go up in order to fight against GGG. Crawford vs Manny may happen this year, according to Bob Arum. I hope that GGG may agree to a fight against Pacquiao next year, but as I said before there are a lot of practical challenges. In case the fight happens, then it will be one of the biggest in Manny's career.
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June 09, 2020, 09:28:51 AM
We all know Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time, but I can't really say if Manny can win this fight because of the huge age difference to Golovkin. After Manny defeated Thurman he proves that age doesn't matter in boxing because he defeat it fair and square, so let's see if Manny has a chance to defeat Golovkin who also a great boxer.

What we will witness with this fight is a man to man fight because they are both determined to knockout one another. Unlike the fight where Manny fought May Weather, this is something different. You will see no cheating because both fighters are legit boxers not some runaway scam fighters like how Floyd fights.

Mayweather IMHO does not cheat, neither the judges, he won convincingly because Manny can destroy the defense of Mayweather and he seemed to be quicker than Manny, and since he Mayweather got the length and the height advantage, that made him easily win and just through some good counter punch to Manny.. Manny though did not admit that he lose on the fight but the mere fact that he made an excuse about the injury, it's just like admitting he lose.

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June 09, 2020, 09:15:20 AM
We all know Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time, but I can't really say if Manny can win this fight because of the huge age difference to Golovkin. After Manny defeated Thurman he proves that age doesn't matter in boxing because he defeat it fair and square, so let's see if Manny has a chance to defeat Golovkin who also a great boxer.

What we will witness with this fight is a man to man fight because they are both determined to knockout one another. Unlike the fight where Manny fought May Weather, this is something different. You will see no cheating because both fighters are legit boxers not some runaway scam fighters like how Floyd fights.
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June 09, 2020, 09:05:16 AM
Golovkin is the most feared fighter in the Welterweight division and a natural Welterweight and still reigning despite facing a pretty good boxer Canelo. Manny maybe his first true test, i only wish that they've faced sooner when they we're still in there prime.
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June 09, 2020, 08:53:29 AM
Yeah, I know Manny Pacquiao very well (coz I am Filipino). By looking at MP last fight (January 2019), that gives us more insight about his current capability.

GGG won at Sergiy Derevyanchenko at 114-113 score (close fight), but GGG struggled to win the fight. Looking at it, Manny Pacquiao can still (probably) dominate the fight if he is still in the same condition against his last fight K. Thurman.  

Nice stats mate,i have not looked on that part thats why i doubt this fight but yeah lets see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Still Manny Pacquiao will be our Peoples Champ.

Fight haven't been officially announced and yet it's just rumor spreading around, but, yeah, we like to see something new and I'm confidence Manny Pacquiao have a great chances to win this fight if it ever happen, and that would make him 9 division world champion
That will make Pacman improve his ranking among the greatest boxers in boxing history, so since it's Freddy Roach who is spreading this, and that is coming from Manny's camp, we can say that Manny want this fight, so it's up to GGG if he will agree with Manny as for sure he would also make a good payday once this fight will be realized.


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(even better than fighting spencer).

It is, this fight is better than Manny vs Spence or Manny vs Terence Crawford.
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June 09, 2020, 08:11:23 AM
Yeah, I know Manny Pacquiao very well (coz I am Filipino). By looking at MP last fight (January 2019), that gives us more insight about his current capability.

GGG won at Sergiy Derevyanchenko at 114-113 score (close fight), but GGG struggled to win the fight. Looking at it, Manny Pacquiao can still (probably) dominate the fight if he is still in the same condition against his last fight K. Thurman.  

Nice stats mate,i have not looked on that part thats why i doubt this fight but yeah lets see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Still Manny Pacquiao will be our Peoples Champ.

Fight haven't been officially announced and yet it's just rumor spreading around, but, yeah, we like to see something new and I'm confidence Manny Pacquiao have a great chances to win this fight if it ever happen, and that would make him 9 division world champion (even better than fighting spencer).
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June 09, 2020, 07:54:47 AM
We all know Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time, but I can't really say if Manny can win this fight because of the huge age difference to Golovkin.
Huge? Not so huge man.

Manny is 41 years old while Golovkin is already 38 years old, a 3 years gap is not huge.
The real definition of huge age gap was the fight between, Manny vs Thurman (31 years old) and Manny vs Adrien Broner (30 years old).

And Manny both won his lat two fights against younger opponent.

After Manny defeated Thurman he proves that age doesn't matter in boxing because he defeat it fair and square, so let's see if Manny has a chance to defeat Golovkin who also a great boxer.

He beat a younger fighter so he can beat Golovkin which is older than Thurman, but it's not about the age now, it's the size of Golovkin.
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June 09, 2020, 07:41:24 AM
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We all know Manny Pacquiao is one of the greatest fighter of all time, but I can't really say if Manny can win this fight because of the huge age difference to Golovkin. After Manny defeated Thurman he proves that age doesn't matter in boxing because he defeat it fair and square, so let's see if Manny has a chance to defeat Golovkin who also a great boxer.
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June 09, 2020, 01:40:04 AM
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I read this news today.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-fight-golovkin-freddie-roach-says--149298

What do you think about this fight, Manny seems like to break his current record to be the ninth division champion.

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At the age of 41, Roach said Pacquiao could be eyeing a title in a record ninth division against one of boxing’s all-time great middleweights.

If this fight happen, who is your bet?

I'm not sure if Manny can make this fight because of adjustment and also the age difference things that very important advantage of each boxer.

No doubt that Manny is Fit and can fight but the chances of winning is not on His side here,I admire Pacquiao from the beginning of His career,from Non Pro in local tv station until now,but i have doubt in this one though i will still bet for him with small amount of course.

How about you consider that Manny Pacquiao is the only 8 world division champion? What I'm afraid for Pacquiao is his speed, his last fight I notice that he is not speed as he was 3 to 4 years ago maybe that's one of factor to consider also but it's middleweight and triple G is not that quick also in the ring, all he got is a power punches which I think Pacquiao could easily dodge and hold, he fought Thurman which is a lot taller than him, triple G is thicker in body size so we'll really see if this happens.
Yeah, I know Manny Pacquiao very well (coz I am Filipino). By looking at MP last fight (January 2019), that gives us more insight about his current capability.

GGG won at Sergiy Derevyanchenko at 114-113 score (close fight), but GGG struggled to win the fight. Looking at it, Manny Pacquiao can still (probably) dominate the fight if he is still in the same condition against his last fight K. Thurman. 

Nice stats mate,i have not looked on that part thats why i doubt this fight but yeah lets see what will be the outcome of the fight.

Still Manny Pacquiao will be our Peoples Champ.
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June 09, 2020, 01:25:28 AM
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@Vishnu.Reang I don’t think that this match will actually take place this year, because Manny suddenly can’t weight up to match Golovkin weights, and the only way this match can take place is if both agree to a middle weight match, but again the possibility of this is less. Furthermore Golovkin has his trilogy matches to complete against Canelo, hence he’ll focus more on those matches, but if anyone has any confirmation about this match do post below because I couldn’t find anything about it online.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8392123/Manny-Pacquiao-vs-Gennady-Golovkin-Q-Sportsmail-answer-key-questions-potential-super-fight.html


I agree with you here, this fight won't happen as they may be problem on what weight they would meet and basing on the article, GGG won't go south of 160 lbs and for Manny to fight at that weight is a suicide, besides there are now talks that the later would fight Crawford. This would be less dangerous for Pacquiao but still a dangerous one for him.

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One of the main reasons it took so long for Golovkin and Canelo to face off in their blockbuster showdown was due to the former's reluctance to meet at a catch-weight in between the middleweight and super-welterweight limit.

GGG has also in the past turned down fights at 168lbs and always insisted that he is comfortable fighting at middleweight. So, any chances of them meeting below 160lbs is virtually off the table.
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June 09, 2020, 12:23:30 AM
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How about you consider that Manny Pacquiao is the only 8 world division champion? What I'm afraid for Pacquiao is his speed, his last fight I notice that he is not speed as he was 3 to 4 years ago maybe that's one of factor to consider also but it's middleweight and triple G is not that quick also in the ring, all he got is a power punches which I think Pacquiao could easily dodge and hold, he fought Thurman which is a lot taller than him, triple G is thicker in body size so we'll really see if this happens.
Yeah, I know Manny Pacquiao very well (coz I am Filipino). By looking at MP last fight (January 2019), that gives us more insight about his current capability.

GGG won at Sergiy Derevyanchenko at 114-113 score (close fight), but GGG struggled to win the fight. Looking at it, Manny Pacquiao can still (probably) dominate the fight if he is still in the same condition against his last fight K. Thurman.  
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June 08, 2020, 07:25:19 PM
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It would be hard to say for now and I wonder who's odd will favor. Cheesy
They both in not ideal age for boxing, that's what I think so I'm just basing my favor for who has the most experience in boxing, most number of main event fights ( handling pressure from crowd ) Still Manny Pacquiao for me.
There will be no heavy favorite in this fight as this is more like an even fight, like a Thurman vs Pacman fight.
We can take a look on his previous fight odds.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2844606-pacquiao-vs-thurman-odds-projected-winner-and-prize-money-purse





We can translate that odds to ;

1.70 Pacquiao
2.1 for Thurman


If this is going to be the same betting odds for GGG vs Pacquiao, I'll take Manny even if he is favored.
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June 08, 2020, 07:07:56 PM
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I'm one of those who voted that GGG will win. I'm a big Manny Pacquaio fan, but here is my reasoning.

First, GGG is too big for Pacquiao as Manny says. He fought Margarito at a catch-weight, and then Margarito rehydrated to 170++ lbs if my memory serves me right. And for me that fight really 'soften' Manny. He received a lot of body punches that time and Manny admitted that he was really hurt during that rounds. So think of GGG, one of the best body punchers out there could do to Manny.

Second, Pacquaio is almost on the downside of his career. It's hard to accept that fact but sooner or later he will face a boxer that could retire him and it's possible that it could be GGG.

Not unless that Roach saw something in GGG that he seen from Oscar, "he can't pull the trigger anymore". But I think GGG still has something in his tank.
You cant really say he hasnt something on his tank and with this kind of stats?


Do you really think that we would see him without giving a fight? With that KO percentage 83.33%
I would say that this shouldnt really be taken easily by Pacquiao and also he should be ready on
strengthening his lower body even more as we can see with one of GG explosives which are mostly on
solid body shots.
If you see GGG during his last fight, he struggles against Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Everyone says that GGG will win by a KO but it didn't happen and he was in trouble in that last fight. That's why perhaps Roach see something that we didn't see. The same thing he did saw in Oscar that's why they fight him and won.

However, I still believed that GGG can still pull the trigger and even if Pacquaio strengthens his lower body, it won't help him as GGG is too big for him.
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