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Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2020, 08:29:02 PM

On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?

Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Your devotion to Pacquiao seems to have blinded you. And it seems to me that you have never watched a single fight of Golovkin. If you had done so, then you would have never asked this question. Golovkin is unarguably one of the best boxers of 21st century. The fact that he was robbed of victories against Canelo not once, but twice can't take that away from him.

I would say both the fighters are good. But Golovkin is in another weight class and that gives him the advantage.

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Quote from: yazher on June 15, 2020, 07:01:15 AM

The tandem of Manny and Freddie is the best coaching type you could ever see in boxing with the help of Freddie roach's strategies, Manny can overcome his opponent no matter who he is as long as they have the same weight. Of course, there are times when somethings wrong they cannot get what they want with the fight but Manny can adjust on the spot to counter his opponent strategy. He is called a living legend for a reason.

Indeed, they are already both legendary in their own respective fields. But I think GGG is now one of the biggest challenge on Pacman's career. I know GGG lost to Canelo once making for some of you underestimating him but guys we should remember that their first fight ended as draw. That's how he close to great Canelo. Well, let's see how Team Pacman make a strategy to beat him especially knwoing the fact that he does not have a glass jaw Grin

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 14, 2020, 06:28:39 PM

I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

The tandem of Manny and Freddie is the best coaching type you could ever see in boxing with the help of Freddie roach's strategies, Manny can overcome his opponent no matter who he is as long as they have the same weight. Of course, there are times when somethings wrong they cannot get what they want with the fight but Manny can adjust on the spot to counter his opponent strategy. He is called a living legend for a reason.

Seriously I want manny to stop while he is healthy since he might encounter his last fight with most dangerous injury since first he's old for accepting more bouts but since his body seeking more fights then might best for his couching staff to focus on speed and defense so that he will not get any bad shots that can make him sleep in the canvass just what like marquez did to him on their bout.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 14, 2020, 06:28:39 PM

I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

The tandem of Manny and Freddie is the best coaching type you could ever see in boxing with the help of Freddie roach's strategies, Manny can overcome his opponent no matter who he is as long as they have the same weight. Of course, there are times when somethings wrong they cannot get what they want with the fight but Manny can adjust on the spot to counter his opponent strategy. He is called a living legend for a reason.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2020, 08:29:02 PM

Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Popularity does not guarantee you an automatic win in a boxing fight. When Manny defeated those big names in boxing before, he was on his peak. The hands speed, in and out movement, punches from an awkward angle, those attributes where there and now he is 41 and things have changed and we can see that obviously in the Thurman fight.

Exactly. It was very evident during the Thurman fight, that Pacman was exhausted after the fight, unlike when he was at his prime where he doesn't seem become tired and each round his punches and stamina became stronger.
I guess a prime Pacman could put Thurman into sleep when he got knocked down in the first round.
But, everything's changed as he aged. This guy Golovkin is bigger and stronger than Margarito. He could be a very dangerous opponent for Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2020, 08:29:02 PM

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 12, 2020, 06:32:07 AM

Man, I dont know who will have the odd in this fight.

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?

GGG is a champion and he is never been knock-out in his fights before and obviously he is the bigger fighter of the two, that alone is a big factor in a fight and before i forgot, he is also younger than Manny.

Quote from: Fredomago on June 14, 2020, 08:29:02 PM

Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Popularity does not guarantee you an automatic win in a boxing fight. When Manny defeated those big names in boxing before, he was on his peak. The hands speed, in and out movement, punches from an awkward angle, those attributes where there and now he is 41 and things have changed and we can see that obviously in the Thurman fight.

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@Fredomago - on the basis that Golovkin is the bigger guys, odd makers look at that one factor to say who is the favourite or not. But it is different one the betting public started to place their bet, it could swing to Pacquiao favours. If I'm not mistaken during Pacquiao's last fight, Thurman was the initial favourite based on the odds, however, there there a huge swing on Manny just a couple of days prior to the fight. So it's possible that we will see this as well if ever this fight push through.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 06:47:17 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on June 12, 2020, 06:32:07 AM

Man, I dont know who will have the odd in this fight.

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?

Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 14, 2020, 06:28:39 PM

I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

Clearly yes,He will beat this young Boxer and once again proves the world of His capacity.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 14, 2020, 08:09:33 AM

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Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 06:47:17 AM

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

Obviously Golovkin is going to be the favorite. What do you expect, when a middleweight fighter takes on someone from the lightweight/welterweight division? The latter will have to deal with a huge disadvantage. The only chance of Pacquiao winning the bout, is if his opponent is very incompetent. And unfortunately for him, Golovkin is the best among the middleweight boxers right now.

We never know yet, I respect both fighters, they are both good but we only need to choose one to back between the two.
I don't want to doubt Manny even if he will be fighting a bigger boxer because he has done this before, it's a very important fight for him as he is trying to break his record and making history again, and that could probably dethrone Mayweather from the number 1 list.

I'm not a fan of Mayweather, but winning against GGG will not put him on the number 1 list, in my opinion. But it is debatable.

Quote from: Botnake on June 14, 2020, 08:09:33 AM

Golovkin is gonna be the favorite but I would be happy with that as taking money with good betting odds would give good return if he wins.
So like most members here voted for him to win, I too hope he will win if this fight's going to happen.

Of course, we all love to bet on Manny specially if he is the underdog here, we're going to make a lot of money here. But this is still rumor though, if we see Manny fight this year or next year and saw that he still have have some pop on his punches then maybe, they can go and fight 2022?

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Quote from: electronicash on June 14, 2020, 11:21:58 AM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.

Many times in Pacquiao's fight that people doubt he can win but he still made it.

His fights against De La Hoya was one of the biggest fight in his career where people doubt him to win, in fact they call this fight as a "David vs Goliath" but with his speed De La Hoya can't even hit him and just gave up before the 12 rounds.

the odds from http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/oscar-de-la-hoya-vs-manny-pac-man-pacquiao/

We would actually see on who would really have the edge towards the fight.Pacquiao doesnt only have speed but also have that knockout power.

Ive watched GGG vs Canelo fights and i can say that GGG might able to handle out hardshots but lets see on how he would handle out

fast jabs with sufficient power to knock out.

Also the link you have given is not working. http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/oscar-de-la-hoya-vs-manny-pac-man-pacquiao/

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on June 14, 2020, 06:28:39 PM

I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

I am a long time avid fan of Manny Pacquiao since I'm a kid, but this time if ever pacman and Golovkin will fight each other I think it would be very unpredictable for him. Same with the challenger there's no 100% guarantee that they'll able to beat each other. What I view here with Golovkin's track record, there's a bigger potential that's why pacman shouldn't lose some of his strong defense because this guy would be so aggressive to take his winning knock outs.

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I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 14, 2020, 05:17:33 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 14, 2020, 11:21:58 AM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.

As long there were no confirmations then its hard to presume out that this fight would eventually happen but who knows because this fight would involve big money for sure even on the pandemic situation.PPV sales would be on the top of the roof which would really generate some income..On the thing you had said about the fight then i agree that adding weight would really have corresponding effect on a certain gambler.It will affect speed,footwork etc. but basing on up Manny's experience then i can say that he would able to handle out those effects and theres still lots of time to deal and enhance it.He do have the advantage since Golovkins attack pattern is just a straight up but really having that punching power which is a good target if you are a type of fighter that can throw up
punches in every direction unexpectedly.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 14, 2020, 05:17:33 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 14, 2020, 11:21:58 AM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.

Many times in Pacquiao's fight that people doubt he can win but he still made it.

His fights against De La Hoya was one of the biggest fight in his career where people doubt him to win, in fact they call this fight as a "David vs Goliath" but with his speed De La Hoya can't even hit him and just gave up before the 12 rounds.

the odds from http://www.bankrollsports.com/blog/oscar-de-la-hoya-vs-manny-pac-man-pacquiao/

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Bodog‘s current odds have De La Hoya is listed as the favorite with a betting line of -170; while Pacquiao listed at +140 as the underdog

If we would see that kind of odds then probably this is going to be good for Pacquiao backers.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 14, 2020, 11:21:58 AM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2020, 11:31:59 AM

Quote from: Botnake on June 14, 2020, 08:09:33 AM

Golovkin is gonna be the favorite but I would be happy with that as taking money with good betting odds would give good return if he wins.
So like most members here voted for him to win, I too hope he will win if this fight's going to happen.

The betting odds are going to be interesting. I still remember what happened during the Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman fight. Thurman started as the overwhelming favorite in betting circles, for reasons that are quite obvious. But then large number of Filipinos (mostly expats) made bets in favor of Pacquiao, forcing the gambling sites to lower the odds for Thurman. I guess the same will happen with this fight, if it ever happens.

I hope it will not be the scenario but I like Manny to win, I just like him to be an underdog in betting odds so if he wins, bettors will win with a better odds.
If Manny will have 2.30 and over, that would be a good extra 30% of winning, and I'm still gonna be confident taking him at that odds.

Regarding who bets on Manny that made him favorite in his previous fight, I think we will never know if it's the Filipino people as there are also whales in sports betting who can move the odds at their favor.

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Quote from: Botnake on June 14, 2020, 08:09:33 AM

Golovkin is gonna be the favorite but I would be happy with that as taking money with good betting odds would give good return if he wins.
So like most members here voted for him to win, I too hope he will win if this fight's going to happen.

The betting odds are going to be interesting. I still remember what happened during the Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman fight. Thurman started as the overwhelming favorite in betting circles, for reasons that are quite obvious. But then large number of Filipinos (mostly expats) made bets in favor of Pacquiao, forcing the gambling sites to lower the odds for Thurman. I guess the same will happen with this fight, if it ever happens.

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must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2020, 08:00:05 AM

Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 06:47:17 AM

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

Obviously Golovkin is going to be the favorite. What do you expect, when a middleweight fighter takes on someone from the lightweight/welterweight division? The latter will have to deal with a huge disadvantage. The only chance of Pacquiao winning the bout, is if his opponent is very incompetent. And unfortunately for him, Golovkin is the best among the middleweight boxers right now.

We never know yet, I respect both fighters, they are both good but we only need to choose one to back between the two.
I don't want to doubt Manny even if he will be fighting a bigger boxer because he has done this before, it's a very important fight for him as he is trying to break his record and making history again, and that could probably dethrone Mayweather from the number 1 list.

Golovkin is gonna be the favorite but I would be happy with that as taking money with good betting odds would give good return if he wins.
So like most members here voted for him to win, I too hope he will win if this fight's going to happen.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 12, 2020, 06:47:17 AM

There's no odds for this fight as it's only an speculation until now, though the camp of Manny showed interest on fighting Golovkin but this fight is not yet confirmed, but in case it's going to be realize, I think Golovkin will be the favorite here.

Obviously Golovkin is going to be the favorite. What do you expect, when a middleweight fighter takes on someone from the lightweight/welterweight division? The latter will have to deal with a huge disadvantage. The only chance of Pacquiao winning the bout, is if his opponent is very incompetent. And unfortunately for him, Golovkin is the best among the middleweight boxers right now.

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