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June 16, 2020, 05:29:28 AM
Roach knows Manny that's why he is still working with Manny's camp until now, and when they pick an opponent, they are usually confident that Manny can win. I understand why people are so concern with Manny going up with weight because GGG is a warrior, but if a Warrior is slow, it can't hit Manny and Manny will win. my 2 cents.

Yeah...
I remembered, Roach had said to Manny vs Keith fight that the filipino boxing legend is affecting by the ageing and can't let the fact the Manny speed slow down against Keith Thurman.

On the other hand, a month old article.
Boxing: Manny Pacquiao has been on Terence Crawford’s radar since 2015
Still M. Pacquiao is a dream fight for other professional boxer.
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June 16, 2020, 04:46:02 AM

Well Arum still the match maker so Pacquaio cannot prevent Him from intervening .
What do you mean Arum is still the match maker? Manny is no longer under him.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/report-manny-pacquiao-signs-with-longtime-floyd-mayweather-adviser-al-haymon/

So how can Bob Arum intervene here, and that is the point of the discussion. Boxing fans are wondering why he is giving negative statement against Manny. I think you need to back read.
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June 16, 2020, 04:20:34 AM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Even better.
It'll increase the odds for Manny Pacquiao.
Guarantee, win with great odds when this match happen. Smiley

Coach Freddie Roach was the one that wants to make this match up to happen, and I think that says it all. Cheesy

Roach knows Manny that's why he is still working with Manny's camp until now, and when they pick an opponent, they are usually confident that Manny can win. I understand why people are so concern with Manny going up with weight because GGG is a warrior, but if a Warrior is slow, it can't hit Manny and Manny will win. my 2 cents.
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June 16, 2020, 03:07:10 AM
Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.
Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.

Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.

The man is near retirement so if this is a desperate move then better his camp will think twice.
Well, it is true, their gap in age is really huge and this might be his biggest obstacle on this fight. Team Pacquiao should think very carefully regarding this fight.
Yeah i understand about what will happens next but the thing is this has not even closed so why need to have argumentation,but its ok we are a free person to say what we wanted to.

-snip

Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.
Well Arum still the match maker so Pacquaio cannot prevent Him from intervening .
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June 16, 2020, 02:51:09 AM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Even better.
It'll increase the odds for Manny Pacquiao.
Guarantee, win with great odds when this match happen. Smiley

Coach Freddie Roach was the one that wants to make this match up to happen, and I think that says it all. Cheesy
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June 15, 2020, 10:59:04 PM
-snip

Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.
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June 15, 2020, 10:41:43 PM
yeah, lets talk when they sealed the deal here. seems that it is still far from happening. no confirmation from both sides yet. so all the talks here will be useless if this will not push thru...

The news are basically broadcasted in our local television especially if Manny Pacquiao will going to have a new fight, but for this one, I don't think I've watched or heard of a new fight coming soon with Manny Pacquiao and Golovkin. Pacquiao is also a senator of the country and I see he's prioritizing the country first before planning to have a new fight especially now that we are in a crisis.

But if this might be true, The roads and streets are clearer than Enhance Community Quarantine. That's how eager the Filipinos watch every Pacquiao's fight.
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June 15, 2020, 08:37:35 PM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

(a) and (b) to me,

(a) Bob Arum can't get over the fact that Manny didn't sign under him and in a twist of faith, went to his bitter competitor, Al Haymon. And I don't see that Arum is concern about Manny's health, this is business, no attachment whatsoever.

There are a lot of boxers who works for him and bring a lot of money, but we didn't even heard about their relationships when that boxer retire.

(b) Of course, he is butt-hurt, specially when he see Manny on his winning tracks again. Perhaps he is imagining the money he should have gain is he still under him. And his latest cash cow (Crawford) generate money but it's not even close when Pacquaio was at his prime.
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June 15, 2020, 06:19:56 PM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.

I don't think he was really concern about Manny, otherwise he might just personally talk with Manny and give personal advise.

Making a statement that will just circulate online is not good, not for Manny as lot of people still trust him especially when he beat a younger and undefeated fighter, but for Arum's reputation. But then, we never know what's in his mind as he is a master of this kind of game, he has been in boxing for Manny years promoting fights, so it's really hard to read the businessman's mind, let's just hope it's nothing personal, but just a business as the reason behind that statement.
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June 15, 2020, 06:01:25 PM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

Quote
Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

Perhaps the reason is that:

(1) Manny dump Bob Arum and then go to Al Haymon

(2) He is still butt-hurt up to this day because he knows he can still milk money. We all know that Pacquiao is Arum's cash cow for years

(3) He is genuinely concern about Manny's health, after all they had multiple run during Manny's peak and he knows the damage Pacquaio has taken throughout under his wing.
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June 15, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.


Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

Quote
Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin
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June 15, 2020, 05:40:22 PM
Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.
Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.


yeah, lets talk when they sealed the deal here. seems that it is still far from happening. no confirmation from both sides yet. so all the talks here will be useless if this will not push thru...
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June 15, 2020, 04:49:50 PM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.
Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.
While you raise some good points the difference now is the age of both fighters, Pacquiao and Mayweather talked a lot about the fight and it took very long to make it a reality because they were younger, but GGG is 38 years old and Pacquiao is 41 years old they have no time to waste if they really want to make this fight a reality, personally I would like to watch this fight since despite their age both fighters still have some gas left and I would like to see how they match against each other.

When it comes to age of both fighters then we cant really deny that theyre getting old but still capable on doing heavy blows and still have that speed.

They wont reach out this peak spot if they havent proved everything. Age is just a number but sooner or later these great fighters would retire.

For now, theres still business need to be done before considering such step.I have doubts that one of them will retire after this fight.  Grin
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June 15, 2020, 11:39:03 AM
Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.
Good point, it's better to wait for the official announcement about this fight. But it's really hard to stop thinking about the possibilities of this fight and as you can see, people can't wait to see what will happen.

Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.

The man is near retirement so if this is a desperate move then better his camp will think twice.
Well, it is true, their gap in age is really huge and this might be his biggest obstacle on this fight. Team Pacquiao should think very carefully regarding this fight.
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June 15, 2020, 10:31:52 AM

must be a good match to watch but there were no real discussions between parties. there is a possibility that this fight may not be realized yet.

3 years gap to their age isn't going to be a problem. its not a boring fight because the two are like bulls that will just want to clash in the middle. if none will change their approach, it might just take 1 or 2 rounds someone will drop. worth betting for pacquiao still.
Just like on what happened on Mayweather-Pacquiao rumors for having a rematch in the past on where there are lots of talks and rumors on the said rematch but it didnt actually happen

after how many years of talks and i would definitely treat the same on this one, yet any members of different parties can talk out about the possibilities but everything would really be needing

some arrangement for it to happen which basically talks about needing more time for fight arrangement.Towards my insight on the fight then GGG wont really be an easy opponent for Pacquiao

specially that he would raise up his own weight just to get the division weight.
While you raise some good points the difference now is the age of both fighters, Pacquiao and Mayweather talked a lot about the fight and it took very long to make it a reality because they were younger, but GGG is 38 years old and Pacquiao is 41 years old they have no time to waste if they really want to make this fight a reality, personally I would like to watch this fight since despite their age both fighters still have some gas left and I would like to see how they match against each other.
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June 15, 2020, 10:18:50 AM
Too many talks while there are still no clear about this said fight,anyway Both fighters are favorite in their own position so enough of talks and lets wait what will happens next.

and also let us all hope that this fight will come to reality as we are betting to our own favorite here.

Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.

The man is near retirement so if this is a desperate move then better his camp will think twice.
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June 15, 2020, 09:48:06 AM
Some prominent and boxing experts are advising Pacquiao to not to push with the fight or if they are going to push it should be in a catchweight
not on a weight where Golovkin and his punch will have an impact, but Pacquiao is gunning for his 9 division title so we cannot blame him he wants to be immortalized as the only fighter that ever did it.
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June 15, 2020, 09:20:19 AM
On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?


Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Your devotion to Pacquiao seems to have blinded you. And it seems to me that you have never watched a single fight of Golovkin. If you had done so, then you would have never asked this question. Golovkin is unarguably one of the best boxers of 21st century. The fact that he was robbed of victories against Canelo not once, but twice can't take that away from him.

I would say both the fighters are good. But Golovkin is in another weight class and that gives him the advantage.

Very well said, at least someone here talking and making sense. All I see and read here are those die hard fans of Manny Pacquaio. Nothing against you, but you have to think logically. Manny is no longer his prime, but you guys think that he can win against a bigger guy in Golovkin, LMAO, typical of Pactards (sorry, I never invented that term). You are all blind to see that Golovkin is an elite fighter and should be still 0 in the loss column.
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June 15, 2020, 08:56:04 AM
I like the boxing style of Manny Pacquiao, even though his body is fairly small and is now 41 years old. I'll bet Manny Pacquiao can
beat Golovkin, although it's certainly not easy to beat Golovkin. Hopefully the match can be held well. Because it is not easy to hold
boxing matches in the current situation, protocol implementation must be as detailed as possible health prevention of corona virus spread.

The tandem of Manny and Freddie is the best coaching type you could ever see in boxing with the help of Freddie roach's strategies, Manny can overcome his opponent no matter who he is as long as they have the same weight. Of course, there are times when somethings wrong they cannot get what they want with the fight but Manny can adjust on the spot to counter his opponent strategy. He is called a living legend for a reason.

Seriously I want manny to stop while he is healthy since he might encounter his last fight with most dangerous injury since first he's old for accepting more bouts but since his body seeking more fights then might best for his couching staff to focus on speed and defense so that he will not get any bad shots that can make him sleep in the canvass just what like marquez did to him on their bout.

Yeah, I couldn't agree to you more, man. And much has been said by @bisdak40.

We can't rely on possibilities alone, as mentioned he's not getting any younger, his speed isn't as close to what it was before, his body couldn't grasp heavy punches even though he has trained it to a new level. Beside he doesn't need money nor popularity anymore as he already made it for himself. From what is obvious, that must be followed else he'll suffer from unexpected consequences.
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June 15, 2020, 08:40:10 AM
On what basis that Golovkin might be the favorite here?


Manny Pacquiao is the most popular boxer in our time ,yeah he is older than this fighter but remember how many Big names with younger ages but Manny break them inside the ring.

Your devotion to Pacquiao seems to have blinded you. And it seems to me that you have never watched a single fight of Golovkin. If you had done so, then you would have never asked this question. Golovkin is unarguably one of the best boxers of 21st century. The fact that he was robbed of victories against Canelo not once, but twice can't take that away from him.

I would say both the fighters are good. But Golovkin is in another weight class and that gives him the advantage.
I agree. I know Pacquiao is a great boxer and even if there are so many people who support Pacquiao, we can't remove the fact that he is aging. It means that his movement was not the same as before. Aside from his age, as you have said, Golovkin is in another weight class, it will surely be hard for Pacquiao.
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