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June 18, 2020, 06:09:54 PM
GGG is a great fighter but Manny is a legend, so this fight could be a great fight as it's not a one sided fight only.
Both fighters are well respected and there are the opinion of people are divided on who will win between the two fighters, and that would make this fight very interesting, of course, there will be a possible equal flow of money from bets, so it's not hard to get a good odds whichever fighter we will bet  on.

Agree. No excuses that the other one is on prime while the other one is retiring.

Other people look GGG as dangerous but no way his name will be popped out if Pacquaio thinks he can't handle it. Roach is afraid for Pacquaio for taking up a higher weight class but it's not that Pacquaio will leap into over +10 weight limit. Definitely, Pacquaio can handle it.

If Pacquaio lost, then fine. At least he tried it even it's not necessary to do. Post-prime, already achieved a successful boxing career, almost on the retirement period but still open for taking new challenges is not usual to any boxer. Pacquaio is truly great.

No way Roach would make such statement if he is not confident that Manny can beat Pacman, he is the trainor and he knows what Manny can do in the right. The style of Manny is very unpredictable, he has a blinding speed and even if we say that triple G is huge, I don't  think it's a big factor against the GOAT Manny.

I like to see this fight happen, let's keep hyping it up so it'll be realize.  Grin

I get your point, roach is one of the trusted man of Pacquiao and their relationship is very effective so I doubt Roach would make that statement which Pacquiao disagrees or no idea about it, calling GGG is not a joke, this is a big and a heavy guy, very good in his division so I guess they have seen some advantage on how to beat GGG.

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June 17, 2020, 05:42:31 AM
GGG is a great fighter but Manny is a legend, so this fight could be a great fight as it's not a one sided fight only.
Both fighters are well respected and there are the opinion of people are divided on who will win between the two fighters, and that would make this fight very interesting, of course, there will be a possible equal flow of money from bets, so it's not hard to get a good odds whichever fighter we will bet  on.

Agree. No excuses that the other one is on prime while the other one is retiring.

Other people look GGG as dangerous but no way his name will be popped out if Pacquaio thinks he can't handle it. Roach is afraid for Pacquaio for taking up a higher weight class but it's not that Pacquaio will leap into over +10 weight limit. Definitely, Pacquaio can handle it.

If Pacquaio lost, then fine. At least he tried it even it's not necessary to do. Post-prime, already achieved a successful boxing career, almost on the retirement period but still open for taking new challenges is not usual to any boxer. Pacquaio is truly great.

No way Roach would make such statement if he is not confident that Manny can beat Pacman, he is the trainor and he knows what Manny can do in the right. The style of Manny is very unpredictable, he has a blinding speed and even if we say that triple G is huge, I don't  think it's a big factor against the GOAT Manny.

I like to see this fight happen, let's keep hyping it up so it'll be realize.  Grin
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June 16, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
GGG is a great fighter but Manny is a legend, so this fight could be a great fight as it's not a one sided fight only.
Both fighters are well respected and there are the opinion of people are divided on who will win between the two fighters, and that would make this fight very interesting, of course, there will be a possible equal flow of money from bets, so it's not hard to get a good odds whichever fighter we will bet  on.

Agree. No excuses that the other one is on prime while the other one is retiring.

Other people look GGG as dangerous but no way his name will be popped out if Pacquaio thinks he can't handle it. Roach is afraid for Pacquaio for taking up a higher weight class but it's not that Pacquaio will leap into over +10 weight limit. Definitely, Pacquaio can handle it.

If Pacquaio lost, then fine. At least he tried it even it's not necessary to do. Post-prime, already achieved a successful boxing career, almost on the retirement period but still open for taking new challenges is not usual to any boxer. Pacquaio is truly great.
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June 16, 2020, 06:46:15 PM
It does not come from Manny directly but I think that Roach would not say that if Manny would not approve of that fight.
Of course, Arum here had some personal business too as he wants his boxer to fight Manny so he can make some good money from the fight.

Here's arum said about the Golovkin vs Pacquiao fight,

"It’s a stupid fight. I know Golovkin appears to be over the hill, but it’s a fight that could be very dangerous for Pacquiao." - Bob Arum (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)




This one always says, it's workable at catchweight

But the thing is, Freddie Roach is not part of Team Pacquaio anymore. He is only there when there is a fight as a consultant (given to him by Manny for some sort of gratitude for all he have done to Manny) on a per fight basis. All the words that came from his mouth is a pure opinion and the two of them does not engage in a conversation at all.

This fantasy fight would only occur at 147lbs which i don't think GGG is willing to take besides what would he get if he fought Manny this time, money? GGG would be better be pursuing that trilogy with Canelo for more money and he is not going out of his comfort zone.

For Manny, even if he beat GGG at 147lbs, that would not count as a fight for the Middleweight, so the purpose of fighting for that 9th division title is defeated and it will leave a bad taste in the mouth to some boxing fans.
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June 16, 2020, 05:58:12 PM
I don't think GGG would say no to Manny, but they are in different weight now, so they have to agree on what weight they will fight, it's gonna be at catchweight at best. Crawford is a good fighter always, he is undefeated and he could give a good fight to Manny.
I have a feeling that GGG as well might be possible to have his last fight anytime soon and announce he's retirement. If that's the case and Manny as well is in the verge of supposed last fight--I think this fight me be happen anytime soon they talked about. Pacquiao and Coach Roach are great tandem and coach knows the best for his boxer.
GGG is a great fighter but Manny is a legend, so this fight could be a great fight as it's not a one sided fight only.
Both fighters are well respected and there are the opinion of people are divided on who will win between the two fighters, and that would make this fight very interesting, of course, there will be a possible equal flow of money from bets, so it's not hard to get a good odds whichever fighter we will bet  on.

Lastly, GGG and Manny are soon going to retire, a good paycheck in their last few fights would be a good bonus.


Any of these boxers would fight, it would be a showdown.

Manny Pacquiao - WBA Super World Welter Title
Errol Spence Jr - WBC World Welter Title
Terence Crawford- WBO World Welter Title
As I've said, it is the best second option Manny got if he wants to give this young hungry fighter an opportunity to have big fights.

I think I would agree with @harizen in his post above, GGG is better, then maybe my next option would be Errol Spence Jr.
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June 16, 2020, 05:37:07 PM
I don't think GGG would say no to Manny, but they are in different weight now, so they have to agree on what weight they will fight, it's gonna be at catchweight at best. Crawford is a good fighter always, he is undefeated and he could give a good fight to Manny.
I have a feeling that GGG as well might be possible to have his last fight anytime soon and announce he's retirement. If that's the case and Manny as well is in the verge of supposed last fight--I think this fight me be happen anytime soon they talked about. Pacquiao and Coach Roach are great tandem and coach knows the best for his boxer.

Any of these boxers would fight, it would be a showdown.

Manny Pacquiao - WBA Super World Welter Title
Errol Spence Jr - WBC World Welter Title
Terence Crawford- WBO World Welter Title
As I've said, it is the best second option Manny got if he wants to give this young hungry fighter an opportunity to have big fights.
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June 16, 2020, 05:20:26 PM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

In Crawford's 36 record match, he hasn't involved yet on the big fights with big names which makes him disappointed.

Pacquaio's last fight should be on the boxer that already established a good track record on their history. GGG is the best choice.

Honestly, I would like to see this Pacquiao vs GGG compare to Pacquaio vs Crawford. I mean, GGG is no doubt a big name on his division. That will be another great fight for Pacquiao instead of facing those youngsters on their prime even those are champions (if it's about Pacquiao's supposed last fight).
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June 16, 2020, 05:18:25 PM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.
Well, Crawford always want to fight Manny anytime and that's the best second option they have if GGG wouldn't love to take this fight.


I don't think GGG would say no to Manny, but they are in different weight now, so they have to agree on what weight they will fight, it's gonna be at catchweight at best. Crawford is a good fighter always, he is undefeated and he could give a good fight to Manny.

Any of these boxers would fight, it would be a showdown.

Manny Pacquiao - WBA Super World Welter Title
Errol Spence Jr - WBC World Welter Title
Terence Crawford- WBO World Welter Title

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June 16, 2020, 05:02:48 PM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.
Well, Crawford always want to fight Manny anytime and that's the best second option they have if GGG wouldn't love to take this fight.
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June 16, 2020, 02:19:33 PM

Its still money that counts. A boxer will go all the troubles and will be pound over and over by a fist that can strike heavier than a jackhammer has to think of money and then the production who will also take a cut. Times of recession, both Pacquaio and GG probably would want big shares and the production can't guarantee if PPV can generate that much because people don't have jobs.
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June 16, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

As already posted by some of the users, the idea was not Manny's. However, Manny maybe interested in the fight against GGG, because it is going to break all the revenue and viewership records from his previous fights. It may become his biggest fight till date, even surpassing the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao of 2015. Any potential fight against Crawford or Spence may not come within miles of this one.
Who wouldnt be interested if you do know that this fight would give out that 9th division belt? This one would be a good fight and we have seen different insights comparing between boxers.
When it comes to ppv sales then theres no doubt that this will sell out pretty well cant be sure if it would surpass Pacquiao-Mayweather though but this one would be big.


It does not come from Manny directly but I think that Roach would not say that if Manny would not approve of that fight.
Of course, Arum here had some personal business too as he wants his boxer to fight Manny so he can make some good money from the fight.
Boxing is business and of course those old man would surely be piling up or arrange fights on where they can milk out the most.
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June 16, 2020, 01:22:00 PM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

As already posted by some of the users, the idea was not Manny's. However, Manny maybe interested in the fight against GGG, because it is going to break all the revenue and viewership records from his previous fights. It may become his biggest fight till date, even surpassing the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao of 2015. Any potential fight against Crawford or Spence may not come within miles of this one.
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June 16, 2020, 08:31:45 AM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

For the record bro, Manny is not calling on GGG to fight him instead it is Roach who floated the idea of a Manny vs GGG fight while it is Arum who wants Crawford to fight Manny but i won't be surprised if at the end of the day, Manny would choose to fight one of the Garcia's.

It does not come from Manny directly but I think that Roach would not say that if Manny would not approve of that fight.
Of course, Arum here had some personal business too as he wants his boxer to fight Manny so he can make some good money from the fight.

Here's arum said about the Golovkin vs Pacquiao fight,

"It’s a stupid fight. I know Golovkin appears to be over the hill, but it’s a fight that could be very dangerous for Pacquiao." - Bob Arum (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)




This one always says, it's workable at catchweight
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June 16, 2020, 07:29:49 AM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes

For the record bro, Manny is not calling on GGG to fight him instead it is Roach who floated the idea of a Manny vs GGG fight while it is Arum who wants Crawford to fight Manny but i won't be surprised if at the end of the day, Manny would choose to fight one of the Garcia's.
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June 16, 2020, 07:16:34 AM
Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

Or maybe Pacquiao vs Spence. Crawford  and Spence are the two undefeated champion that people could possibly match Manny, but why is it Manny calling GGG instead of these two? I'm a bit confuse here. Roll Eyes
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June 16, 2020, 06:48:55 AM
I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.

Great point. Now that I think there is huge possibility that this would be the last fight of Manny. I'll go with Freddie Roach with he's crazy thought like this one below.

Crawford vs Pacquiao should be the best option for Manny if indeed it will be his last fight.

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At 5-foot-10 1/2, GGG is half an inch shorter than Margarito, but broader, heavier, and presumably stronger.

Against Pacquiao, Margarito entered the ring at 165 lbs, gaining 15 lbs overnight.

Similarly, GGG could rehydrate to as high as 175, a light heavyweight, in a middleweight bout.

Pacquiao, who was 148 when he tangled with Margarito, has never reached 155 on fight night so a weight discrepancy of 20 lbs is likely against Golovkin.

Roach knows this so he ruled out Pacquiao colliding with GGG at 160 lbs.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/263345-vs-golovkin-workable-at-catchweight

Correct, that is why I don't like to compare Margarito and GGG, both different. The only way that Team Pacquaio can get over this is adding a rehydration clause in the contract. Manny is typical of an Asian guy and it will be very difficult for him to go reach 155-160 without eating huge amount of food. His best fighting weight is really 147 lbs, above that, he looks bloated to me.
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June 16, 2020, 06:48:12 AM
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Arum is doing everything to discourage the fans because Pacquiao doesn't want him to intervene with any of Manny's fight anymore. His fighter doesn't have the popularity like Pacquiao's got. He can't make money with this fight like he used to be when Pacquiao trusted him with his so-called promotion in his past fight. therefor all he has to do is say something negative about Pacquaio's upcoming fight. He will see another disappointment when Golovkin kisses the floor.

Maybe, I also thought of that, that's why he is against Manny right now.
This old article again proved that Arum was again wrong.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Bob Arum Says Pac-Man Won't Fight Floyd Mayweather

and then 3 years after.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Results: Money Defeats Pac-Man Via Unanimous Decision
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June 16, 2020, 06:29:16 AM
I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.

Great point. Now that I think there is huge possibility that this would be the last fight of Manny. I'll go with Freddie Roach with he's crazy thought like this one below.

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At 5-foot-10 1/2, GGG is half an inch shorter than Margarito, but broader, heavier, and presumably stronger.

Against Pacquiao, Margarito entered the ring at 165 lbs, gaining 15 lbs overnight.

Similarly, GGG could rehydrate to as high as 175, a light heavyweight, in a middleweight bout.

Pacquiao, who was 148 when he tangled with Margarito, has never reached 155 on fight night so a weight discrepancy of 20 lbs is likely against Golovkin.

Roach knows this so he ruled out Pacquiao colliding with GGG at 160 lbs.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/263345-vs-golovkin-workable-at-catchweight
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June 16, 2020, 06:27:56 AM
I read this news today.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-fight-golovkin-freddie-roach-says--149298

What do you think about this fight, Manny seems like to break his current record to be the ninth division champion.

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At the age of 41, Roach said Pacquiao could be eyeing a title in a record ninth division against one of boxing’s all-time great middleweights.

If this fight happen, who is your bet?

I believe that Manny is greater than Golovkin he has head movement, foot work, fighting style and determination to  fight. Though he is already 41yrs. Old but he had gots to fight he can still win against Golovkin.
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June 16, 2020, 05:38:19 AM
Again, negative comment on Pacquiao from Arum.
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Golovkin fight ‘very dangerous’ for Pacquiao, says Arum

It seems like I haven't heard any positive comment from Arum on Pacquiao recently, even on the previous fight of Manny against Thurman, Arum was still negative about Manny.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/by-sport/boxing-mma/pacquiao/233017-arum-fears-brain-damage-veteran-pacquiao

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Manny Pacquiao faces one of his most dangerous opponents in years in unbeaten American Keith Thurman, and promoter Bob Arum feels worried

People, do you think Arum here are giving us betting tips? we will win if we bet against his statement. Grin

I'll go with Bob Arum as i see his advise to Manny as a fatherly one lol. I think he made that comment because he wants his fighter, Crawford to fight Manny instead of GGG. Months ago he said that Spence and Crawford are dangerous opponents for Manny but with the name of GGG floating around as a possible opponent of Manny, Arum changes his tune. This is because this might be the last fight of Manny and the outcome would not be good to him so why not fare his fighter against his former cash cow, milking him for the last time  Smiley.
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