Massive abuse in the Russian section. - page 10.

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xenon131 - seems to think that anyone not explicitly trusted by theymos is a "manipulator":

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By the way, if you want to see whom theymos trusts, remove the DefaultTrust entry from your field and add only theymos and nothing more. Click Update. (this can be done with respect to any member of the community) Then Depth 1 will show a list of people he trusts himself. And there is NO one of his algorithm. This means that the existing DT1 is created (by an algorithm) by manipulating a certain group of the community, while all others are / are in the dark.

And this "manipulation" sentiment is echoed throughout the thread as one of the reasons to vote Russians into DT1.

Quote from: TheFuzzStone on January 17, 2019, 07:31:55 AM

We are not abusing anything. Just spreading the word about changes in trust system.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 05:47:35 AM

He's willing to overthrow several thousand ratings on scammers in order to get "strength". If that isn't a sign of malice and collusion, I don't know what is. Naturally, he's also a (caught) merit abuser. So far I have only tagged him, but it is likely that more users deserve it.

LOOOL

lauda you so stupid Grin

and your dogs also stupid tman and other dogs)
you tagged me))) i so happy
SCAMMER lauda tagged me Grin

that do funny

hey lauda! i didnt abused trust system

i abused your ass Cheesy

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(work in progress)

They are all cool at the start, skip to the 14th to experience the sand in vagina quotes

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Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 09:28:47 AM

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Hey, look at our profiles. There is no shitposting, no bounty, no pyramids of Cheops. We came here for knowledge.

Knowledge comrade, once you have the knowledge you have the power?

Merit farming, Trust farming and collusion to disrupt DT..

but that's ok, as you don't start pyramid schemes and you don't shitpost? listen here Ivan it don't work like that.

there's no collusion, you idiots Grin

. We just responded to the call for help so that we have a representative with specific knowledge of the Russian locale. Your tantrum reminds me of this trial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYJZqJezjz4

do you recognize yourself as a Prosecutor?

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Hey, look at our profiles. There is no shitposting, no bounty, no pyramids of Cheops. We came here for knowledge.

Knowledge comrade, once you have the knowledge you have the power?

Merit farming, Trust farming and collusion to disrupt DT..

but that's ok, as you don't start pyramid schemes and you don't shitpost? listen here Ivan it don't work like that.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 17, 2019, 08:46:11 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 08:35:24 AM

no you didn't do what you should - and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.
stop lying about this, there is obvious blatant collusion after the 14th when your "comrade" was excluded - then mob rule came along, some scammer tried to break the whole of DT with ~defaulttrust and I still see that now - why no ban? why no tag?
you are not suitable to do this job, god knows what else goes on in that section. And no I am not racist or whatever else you want to say, I was one of the members who added Alex_SR onto DT.

TBH I wouldn't want moderators to start removing posts on topics like that or otherwise interfering in trust system matters. We're supposed to police ourselves. I'll be excluding some of the obviously unsuitable members, even if they're not malicious but merely misguided. That's all we really need to do. The attempts to game the system are fully expected and even if that thread didn't exist it could still happen via PMs, telegram, etc so we better be ready and check and re-check those DT1/2 newbie lists.

Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.

This was my translation too. Well done brother TMAN

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Quote from: MaoChao on January 17, 2019, 09:16:26 AM

~snip~

not all users - please do not deflect as it is a shitty tactic

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Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 09:12:36 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.

Post in Meta or talk to other mods those are expected actions of a person of responsibility. I do think the ~Defaulttrust user should of been banned and post removed though - that is shoddy as hell leaving that there - what if It actually worked?

Indeed. I've confirmed with theymos that it can't work and that you need to escape the exclusion character to trust a prefixed (~) username. The account should have been nuked and the registration of such accounts disabled.

Quote from: MaoChao on January 17, 2019, 09:16:26 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 04:57:13 AM

snip

Distrust all users only because they posts in thread that you can't even read properly? Well done.

We had a good approximation of what was actually written in there. I don't need to be able to read the original if the approximation is good.

Quote from: MaoChao on January 17, 2019, 09:16:26 AM

Meanwhile nobody (who can change trust to red) cares about hundreds of russian farmers who make shitposting and send merit each other.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49246205
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49229368
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49179640
etc.

Right, and you've contacted people about this how many times? Tagging zero merit newbies that are only shitposters is pointless because:
1) DT members try to avoid tagging someone solely because they are a shitposter (theymoses 'rule').
2) It's a waste of time.

People who make these reports should separately report groups where there is no merit and where merit is being abused.

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Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 04:57:13 AM

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Distrust all users only because they posts in thread that you can't even read properly? Well done.
I never include or exclude from my trust-network only because someone advise me that.

Meanwhile nobody (who can change trust to red) cares about hundreds of russian farmers who make tons of shitposting and send merit each other.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49246205
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49229368
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49179640
etc.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 09:09:44 AM

Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.

Post in Meta or talk to other mods those are expected actions of a person of responsibility. I do think the ~Defaulttrust user should of been banned and post removed though - that is shoddy as hell leaving that there - what if It actually worked?

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Quote from: xandry on January 17, 2019, 09:06:59 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 08:35:24 AM

and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.

Please, re-read my post:

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Of course they were upset when their one behind another was thrown out from DT for some strange reason (I didn't read a detail).

It means I don't read a detail in English thread the reason why TheFuzzStone was excluded from DT.

He should have never been there to begin with. If they respond emotionally to one of "their" getting excluded, then they should all be excluded far away from DT. Just the usage of that wording symbolized gang.

Quote from: suchmoon on January 17, 2019, 08:46:11 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 08:35:24 AM

no you didn't do what you should - and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.
stop lying about this, there is obvious blatant collusion after the 14th when your "comrade" was excluded - then mob rule came along, some scammer tried to break the whole of DT with ~defaulttrust and I still see that now - why no ban? why no tag?
you are not suitable to do this job, god knows what else goes on in that section. And no I am not racist or whatever else you want to say, I was one of the members who added Alex_SR onto DT.

TBH I wouldn't want moderators to start removing posts on topics like that or otherwise interfering in trust system matters. We're supposed to police ourselves. I'll be excluding some of the obviously unsuitable members, even if they're not malicious but merely misguided. That's all we really need to do. The attempts to game the system are fully expected and even if that thread didn't exist it could still happen via PMs, telegram, etc so we better be ready and check and re-check those DT1/2 newbie lists.

Indeed. I think he meant that xandry as a somewhat more reputable member and staff member should have pointed this out to the rest of us.

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~snip~

Lies - Trust farming and public manipulation to get your "comrades" onto the DT network.

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Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 08:35:24 AM

and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.

Please, re-read my post:

Quote

Of course they were upset when their one behind another was thrown out from DT for some strange reason (I didn't read a detail).

It means I don't read a detail in English thread the reason why TheFuzzStone was excluded from DT.

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I openly admit my mistakes and talk about it.
I deleted my reviews - very quickly.
Leaving only those - to whom I can entrust my money.

I wasn't manipulating.

That's the behaviour of someone caught red-handed IMO.

You admitted your mistakes in less than 2 posts without any arguments?

That's not a mistake, that's trying to fraud and giving up after getting caught.

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Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 08:35:24 AM

no you didn't do what you should - and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.

stop lying about this, there is obvious blatant collusion after the 14th when your "comrade" was excluded - then mob rule came along, some scammer tried to break the whole of DT with ~defaulttrust and I still see that now - why no ban? why no tag?

you are not suitable to do this job, god knows what else goes on in that section. And no I am not racist or whatever else you want to say, I was one of the members who added Alex_SR onto DT.

TBH I wouldn't want moderators to start removing posts on topics like that or otherwise interfering in trust system matters. We're supposed to police ourselves. I'll be excluding some of the obviously unsuitable members, even if they're not malicious but merely misguided. That's all we really need to do. The attempts to game the system are fully expected and even if that thread didn't exist it could still happen via PMs, telegram, etc so we better be ready and check and re-check those DT1/2 newbie lists.

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Quote from: xandry on January 17, 2019, 08:28:45 AM

Looks like on the 3rd time i need to translate text instead of you... People said that it would be good to have the Russian-speaking person in DT to tag known scammers, account sellers and merit sellers, because many of victims don't speak English and they can't explain to DT them problems. Of course they were upset when their one behind another was thrown out from DT for some strange reason (I didn't read a detail).
And then you say that they are participants of some criminal plot.

I do what i should. Any can discuss DT users and post his trust list.

no you didn't do what you should - and you read in detail as you quoted a post then added your thoughts.

stop lying about this, there is obvious blatant collusion after the 14th when your "comrade" was excluded - then mob rule came along, some scammer tried to break the whole of DT with ~defaulttrust and I still see that now - why no ban? why no tag?

you are not suitable to do this job, god knows what else goes on in that section. And no I am not racist or whatever else you want to say, I was one of the members who added Alex_SR onto DT.

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Quote from: mdayonliner on January 17, 2019, 07:36:25 AM

So you do response quickly. Last time when I wanted to get your attention - it took you around a month to repond my topic.

The quantity of reports, as well as activity of users at a forum decreased. And i can said many thanks to user Piggy for notification bot

Quote from: TMAN on January 17, 2019, 07:38:16 AM

I'm well aware, the thread was innocent enough until the 14th when your boy got excluded - then the little monkeys went off the rails and you did fuck all to sort it out.

You are Paid to make the forum a better place, you did not do your job to an acceptable level. You did nothing to discourage the exclusion of people who have thousands of ratings, do you have a personal agenda here?

Looks like on the 3rd time i need to translate text instead of you... People said that it would be good to have the Russian-speaking person in DT to tag known scammers, account sellers and merit sellers, because many of victims don't speak English and they can't explain to DT them problems. Of course they were upset when their one behind another was thrown out from DT for some strange reason (I didn't read a detail).
And then you say that they are participants of some criminal plot.

I do what i should. Any can discuss DT users and post his trust list.

Sorry, i don't understand about what ratings you talking about.

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 07:42:29 AM

Do you really want someone to dump all your trust lists and merit histories?

I don't mind. My merit history mistakes was explained in mdayonliner thread and I try not to make them anymore; trust list can be viewed anytime.

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Quote from: taikuri13 on January 17, 2019, 08:19:36 AM

~SNIP~

Thanks for admitting to manipulating trust to get more members onto DT, proving that I was correct there bud.

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Quote from: stompix on January 17, 2019, 07:48:00 AM

taikuri13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1855828

Yes, those are my reviews.
There were more (16).

But the Russian legendary MaoChao and Dark Star_ showed me my mistake.

Quote from: MaoChao on January 15, 2019, 05:36:18 AM

...
Я кcтaти пo этoмy вoпpocy c Лayдoй coглaceн.
Tpacт ≠ peпyтaция ≠ лaйки

Quote from: taikuri13 on January 15, 2019, 01:19:25 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on January 15, 2019, 12:19:54 PM

...
If you've been helping xtraelv with investigations and plan on leaving negative trusts, that's fine with me. I've removed you from my suggested exclusions list after xtraelv stated it.
It's just a bit unusual for someone to not leave a single trust rating, and all of a sudden leave 16 on the day they were added to DT2.

You might be confusing trust list with trust feedback too. You don't have to leave someone trust feedback if you want to add them to your trust list.

Yeah, I was able to figure it out.
And I understood my mistake.

I deleted 10 feedbacks.
Now I understand that every feedback from DT2 participants is a big responsibility.

ps: I have helped and will continue to help xtraelv regardless of whether I am at DT2 or not.

I admitted my mistake.

I did not run to remove from my list.
I did not act out of revenge.

I know marlboroza as a talented bench investigator.
I read the Lauda profile and studied.
I'm not familiar with yogg (absolutely)
I know suchmoon as a makes the forum cleaner and a cosmic sense of humor.
I know yahoo62278 as one of the best bounty managers.

And from the fact that they removed me from the list - my opinion about them has not changed.

Those people who received my feedback (6):
xtraelv - The person from DT1, the forum's investigator and historian
chimk - merit source, the man who explains the idea and meaning of Bitcoin.
esmanthra - merit source, which explains the rules, translates them into Russian and helps the forum enormously in the fight against shitposting and scam.
xenon131 - A security specialist who explains the Bitcoin storage device explains how to work safely on the network.
TheFuzzStone - I know this person from other forums.
temarazin - The deal is not in this forum, I received a service, then paid for it (more than once).

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Quote from: stompix on January 17, 2019, 07:48:00 AM

taikuri13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1855828

Quote from: stompix on January 17, 2019, 07:48:00 AM

Spotika4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1062160

Just excluded him too.

Quote from: stompix on January 17, 2019, 07:48:00 AM

Lol, for two years he was a member of this forum and sent only one rating and suddenly 3 on the same day....and in English.
This is Farmville 2.2

Nah, this is the evil catbat witch's fault! A good starting point for Trust Lists [The Cult of Lauda] My Trust List. I might add elaborations one day just as Loyce did.

Quote from: stompix on January 17, 2019, 07:48:00 AM

I guess it's time to poke the Turkish and Indonesian section a bit also... Grin

I expect them to be worse, especially Indonesian.

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 07:42:29 AM

LE:
Oh...lols again:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2197723

We are not abusing anything. Roll Eyes

Quote from: DabLjat on January 17, 2019, 07:48:44 AM

Quote from: Lauda on January 17, 2019, 07:42:29 AM

The problem isn't the thread itself, it lies in the content of the posts.

Do you really think that if a group of people really want to conspire and start manipulating the trust system they will create a topic and will tell everyone about it?
Haaaa.... Under the table....
Do you really think so? Why so naive?

You're the naive one, thinking that established forum members are going to let this fly.

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