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Topic: Massive abuse in the Russian section. - page 12. (Read 4876 times)

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January 17, 2019, 05:51:27 AM
#9
A notable suggestion by the user peloso (post #47):
This is the topic where there is an exchange of views on the new trust system.

This is analogous to the topic DefaultTrust changes, but only in Russian
If you believe that publicly colluding is analgous to the DT changes announcement thread, then you should stay far away from DT.

Each user can write anything-see who trusts this user and many things will become clear to you!

And here is my post-sorry for the quick translation!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49257170
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In other words, the DT list is a collective intelligence aggregator of hundreds and thousands of reviews left by hundreds of users over the years of the trust system. Now imagine that each user is a site with reviews. A list of DT1 and DT2-an aggregator of sites with reviews. The aggregator comes to such a site (a page with user reviews) and sees that there are no reviews on the site(page) at all or there are very few of them. Will the aggregator include such a site in its list? The answer I think is obvious. Only when it will be useful and unique reviews-that's when it is likely that such a site will be interested in the aggregator and he will be interested in including this site in your list! (just as Google and Yandex to include in the search results primarily unique and informative sites)

The moral of all the above:

1. If you want to participate and take a worthy place in the trust system of the forum-understand and accept it!
2. To abandon the system of trust forum-it's about the same as not having your search engine to abandon Google or Yandex when searching for the right sites.
3. Start creating your trust sheet that the aggregator was keen to integrate you into their network.
4. Even if your reviews are not yet trust-write them anyway-it's your Luggage for the future and it's your feedback and your unique experience!
5. When creating reviews, be sure to leave a Reference link: (this is especially true of negative reviews)
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January 17, 2019, 05:48:25 AM
#8
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I always found the Russian section a bit irritating for me. I even had a topic against one of the moderator long ago. What I learnt was that they basically favor each others to take advantages of anything. I will find the topic and post it here.


Update:
Here: [staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? Response received!

PS: Seems like you woke up now. I woke up long ago. Around in May 2018.


Update:
I'll delete this off-topic response soon.
I reported it  Tongue
no I did not seriously.
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January 17, 2019, 05:47:35 AM
#7
I quite literally predicted this would happen:
A bored Newbie with a hacked Legendary account could pull this off. Then exclude all other DT1 accounts, and the hostile takeover of the trust network is complete (until manual intervention).

I can imagine other communities will make their own DT1 "clique": for example a group of Russians, a group of Indonesians and a group of bounty hunters. As long as they stay out of each other's hair, they can co-exist. The moment they touch, it feels like a black hole collision competing for exclusions.
The old DT-system felt like it meant something, the new system changes every few hours.

A notable suggestion by the user peloso (post #47):
This is the topic where there is an exchange of views on the new trust system.

This is analogous to the topic DefaultTrust changes, but only in Russian
If you believe that publicly colluding is analgous to the DT changes announcement thread, then you should stay far away from DT.

I'm most disappointed that xandry read the thread (and naturally understood it), and kept quiet about it.
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January 17, 2019, 05:41:53 AM
#6
TMAN doesn't need your merit don't waste it.

Merit isn't a ranking tool based on need, but an appreciation of work, and the provision of information for the community. Based on this, I gave TMAN 5 merits.

I might support him as well, by copying his exclusion list.

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January 17, 2019, 05:41:33 AM
#5
TMAN doesn't need your merit don't waste it.

Did he tell you he doesn't need it lol. There's a cold war going on between those legendary users on merit. e.g LoyceV won't tell you but he'll love it, if he can reclaim his position as 3rd highest merited users over DdmrDdmr, it shows how contributive you have been.


Nice catch TMAN +1
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January 17, 2019, 05:41:24 AM
#4
Guys, if this topic was something wrong I would not put a link to it:

My feedback of this user was given for the creation of this topic dedicated to the trust: [Challenge] Create your Trust list - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trust-5096402

If leaving such feedback is a problem-tell me: "Bro is a problem!" and I will not leave such feedback!

As I wrote earlier I am still very inexperienced in matters of trust, but I'm learning fast:

This is the topic where there is an exchange of views on the new trust system.

This is analogous to the topic DefaultTrust changes, but only in Russian
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January 17, 2019, 05:35:34 AM
#3
I quite literally predicted this would happen:
A bored Newbie with a hacked Legendary account could pull this off. Then exclude all other DT1 accounts, and the hostile takeover of the trust network is complete (until manual intervention).

I can imagine other communities will make their own DT1 "clique": for example a group of Russians, a group of Indonesians and a group of bounty hunters. As long as they stay out of each other's hair, they can co-exist. The moment they touch, it feels like a black hole collision competing for exclusions.
The old DT-system felt like it meant something, the new system changes every few hours.

Figured I might as well get this shit public as I am gonna have half the red army after me, I don't care if they manage to exclude me from DT, I just figure others need to be made aware of this behavior
All I can hope is that theymos will manually exclude them from DT1. From PM:
~ But if it looks like a "scammer's cartel" is forming, then I'd change the criteria to fix it. For example, one obvious weak point is that you can try to push an infinite number of people into DT1 by trusting as many people as you want; one way to try to fix this would be to take only a fixed-size random subset of everyone's trust list into account, perhaps with the size determined by the truster's merit. But for now I am very much inclined to just let it roll for a while and see exactly where the cracks appear.
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January 17, 2019, 05:21:01 AM
#2
TMAN doesn't need your merit don't waste it.

Great find
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January 17, 2019, 04:57:13 AM
#1
http://archive.is/yNmaO

I only noticed this by chance as I am trying to teach myself a cyrillic language and happened to see a post publicly talking about exclusions and inclusions to get more Russians on DT.

I am excluding all the below and am slowly translating and tagging the obvious manipulators. (Staff are in that thread which is shocking)

one quote I liked - "But it is necessary to strengthen the position, since several people will be a little easier to show their strength"

~Alex_Sr
~peloso
~xenon131
~Rooivalk
~chimk
~esmanthra
~MaoChao
~DabLjat
~Polkeins
~madnessteat
~biom33
~Xal0lex

These are the guys they are talking about adding to trust to increase scores

~goran
~Provok
~Slasher
~Whitemanwhite
~TheFuzzStone
~zoldberg
~poptop
~be.open
~fzkto
~Gary levanevskii
~3meek
~chimk
~leonello
~MoxnatyShmel
~wh1rlw1nd
~xandry
Figured I might as well get this shit public as I am gonna have half the red army after me, I don't care if they manage to exclude me from DT, I just figure others need to be made aware of this behavior
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