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Topic: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. - page 32. (Read 227070 times)

legendary
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Well... It seems that we need to apply a humanitarian bombing to presidential residence. That will resolve all issues immediately.

Seriously, people are getting tired of that, they need a humanitarian bombing. Roll Eyes

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/the-last-laugh-is-on-rogozin/500460.html

It seems like one of the top officials in Russia is already thinking of this.

Rogozin, who is on the European Union's list of sanctioned individuals, has repeatedly threatened neighboring states with Russia's nuclear arsenal in recent weeks. When Ukraine and Romania had denied his airplane the right to fly over their territories earlier this month, Rogozin threatened that next time he would visit the region in a Tu-160 strategic bomber, which carries nuclear weapons, essentially threatening a nuclear attack.


What is his postion, or rather what does "Deputy Prime Minister" mean in the Russian government ? Can't find a clue on wiki.
legendary
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Well... It seems that we need to apply a humanitarian bombing to presidential residence. That will resolve all issues immediately.

Seriously, people are getting tired of that, they need a humanitarian bombing. Roll Eyes
legendary
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Ukraine forbids Russia to send humanitarian aid to the Lugansk and Donetsk republics:
http://1prime.ru/Politics/20140529/785791664.html

I can see Turchinov, screaming:
"DIE, DIE, DIE! No medicines or food for them! Mwa-ha-ha!!!"



Meanwhile:

'War is a plague': Donetsk students’ pacifist song leaves TV anchor in tears on air (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/162148-tv-anchor-tears-donetsk/

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“Our central message is for people who are responsible for the violence, asking them to stop the chaos as soon as possible — so there would be peace and no more war. War is like a plague, it is everywhere, it needs to be eliminated,” Dmitry Vesov, one of the students signing in the video, told Donbass TV.

“Military operations are everywhere, blasts can be heard all the time. It is very scary for kids. Do we really have to see dead bodies in order to realize that we need to love and understand each other?” said Maria Severilova, another ninth grade student.
legendary
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The first setback for the Ukrainian army in the post-election conflict.

Ukrainian army chopper downed as shelling of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk begins

http://rt.com/news/162248-shelling-slavyansk-kramatorsk-ukraine/

This is the 3rd chopper being downed by the self-defence forces in Slavyansk. The Kiev junta is using Choppers to extensively bomb the civilian targets in the Donetsk Oblast.
legendary
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I was hoping that the presidential elections would mean a de-escalation in the conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Seems like I was completely wrong. Somewhere around 200 people killed in the last 3 days, and both the sides are preparing for a major battle.

Fearing Kiev's jets, Ukraine's rebels hold their ground

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.595913

You are not alone there.

I started losing hope for peaceful resolution once Carev was bullied out of the presidential run. He was the only candidate with a peace program and interests of both Western and Eastern Ukraine covered, so he was standing a good chance of getting elected by a true majority.

There's been more deaths these past 3 days, than over the period of the last month prior to elections.
legendary
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I was hoping that the presidential elections would mean a de-escalation in the conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Seems like I was completely wrong. Somewhere around 200 people killed in the last 3 days, and both the sides are preparing for a major battle.

Fearing Kiev's jets, Ukraine's rebels hold their ground

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.595913
legendary
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Former Georgian minister and businessman Kaha Bendukidze is appointed as presidential advisor in Ukraine:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/28/advisor/

Quote from Wikipedia:
"Bendukidze does not belong to Putin's circle of friends and he understood sooner than everyone else that everything would be taken away from him..."  
"He is known as a committed libertarian[1] and strong supporter of market economy, deregulation and privatization"

Sounds like a great choice! Maybe with him Ukraine will finally start moving away from Russian-style socialism, towards a more open and wealthier market economy.

I agree only with one word there. It'll surely be wealthier, for the ones closest to the top.
legendary
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What I don't understand is, why are you morons so up in arms over a "democratically elected" president being deposed for trying to become a dictator
I'm sorry but the only "moron" is in your mirror, because only a moron would believe in something like that. Who told you this nonsense, CNN or FoxNews? I'm afraid that I haven't seen anything more stupid during the last two months. Cheesy

Don't be naive, do you really believe that police is unable to disperse such demonstration? If he wanted to become a dictator, he would have got it. If you believe that special forces were unable to resolve this type of problem, then you have never seen this guys in action. Less than 15 minutes would be required to resolve these "protests" by force.

He even wouldn't need to use an armed forces for that, just give the "Berkut" an order to use batons, and it's done... But unfortunately, Yanukovych has no balls to do what is needed to be done right from beginning, and he ordered them to do nothing. Unlike the US, Russian, Greek or German governments, who doesn't shrink from using the batons, tear gas attacks and other democratical correction practices.

Yeah, that's kinda what Yanukovich was going for, and why he got kicked out.
It seems that somebody has no idea about EU and US observers, who have confirmed that elections were legitimate.

and then are so alarmed about the possibility of a right wing fascist government coming to power, but are completely ignoring the actual dictator-in-all-but-name FASCIST in the cuntry just to the east of Ukraine? Worse, you are actually supporting his news and his propaganda! I have no idea what political views you guys have, but if I had to guess, it'd be pro-totalitarian statists. Not libertarian/anarchist that the majority of bitcoin supporters are.

I see these bold tags, baseless insults and continuous, senseless propaganda accusations... And I find that it's a strong reason to think that you are too obsessed with "these damn russians propaganda dictator invasion killer occupation hitler muahahaha" stuff. This is exactly what is seen in virtually every your message here. Apparently, it's quite important for you. I see typical pattern here:

1. Your gf have dropped you? / Your salary is not enough to cover the bills? / Your neighbor is a fool? / whatever
2. Blame it on russians.
3. PROFIT.

This is understandable, it's difficult to avoid the temptation to accept a simple explanation for all problems. But it's actually a dead end because russians, ukrainians[, ...] just don't give a fuck about your existence and they never will. Smiley

Calm down and try to find lovely girl, share a drink with her and then think how wonderful that we are all living in this world. Everything will become normal after that, and clear thinking will quickly return. Good luck.
legendary
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Good. Maybe that will finally force some change in that government.

What I don't understand is, why are you morons so up in arms over a "democratically elected" president being deposed for trying to become a dictator, and then are so alarmed about the possibility of a right wing fascist government coming to power, but are completely ignoring the actual dictator-in-all-but-name FASCIST in the cuntry just to the east of Ukraine? Worse, you are actually supporting his news and his propaganda! I have no idea what political views you guys have, but if I had to guess, it'd be pro-totalitarian statists. Not libertarian/anarchist that the majority of bitcoin supporters are.
legendary
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OK... now we have the first confirmed foreign interference in Ukraine.

I'm pretty sure Russian invasion of Crimea was the first confirmed foreign interference in Ukraine. Russia trying to sabotage the election with a computer virus that would have made Right Sector Yarosha win with 37%, and then not realizing that the virus was discovered and running this news report claiming that he won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ltHXUkkG4 was another. Point is there was a ton of foreign interference in Ukraine from Russia way before anyone else got there.
legendary
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Poroshenko asked to have some time to think before signing of association agreement with EU:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/28/05/2014/926930.shtml

"Have some time to think" can be interpreted as "postpone". Wasn't it one of the reasons why Yanukovich was displaced in the first place..?



Yatsenjuk asks Putin to close Russian-Ukrainian border "to prevent entry of Russian soldiers on Ukrainian territory":
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/28/n_6189961.shtml


Yeah, but Yanukovich said "No." while Poroshenko said "We have to take care of the civil war situation first, before we can divert our attention to more international matters." Which, you know, makes sense.
legendary
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Former Georgian minister and businessman Kaha Bendukidze is appointed as presidential advisor in Ukraine:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/28/advisor/

Quote from Wikipedia:
"Bendukidze does not belong to Putin's circle of friends and he understood sooner than everyone else that everything would be taken away from him..."  
"He is known as a committed libertarian[1] and strong supporter of market economy, deregulation and privatization"

Sounds like a great choice! Maybe with him Ukraine will finally start moving away from Russian-style socialism, towards a more open and wealthier market economy.
legendary
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Here are those Ukrainain soldiers and Right Sector militants who are preparing to exterminate the citizens of Slavyansk and other cities in the Donetsk and the Lugansk oblasts.



Care to point out which ones are Right Sector? I don't see any identifying marks. Or is anyone who is fighting against Russian invaders and pro-Russan criminals Right Sector now? If US was to come in and you had pictures of US troops, in US uniforms with US flags, would you say "Here is Right Sector" too?  Roll Eyes


legendary
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Rassah : I need to remind people, AGAIN, that Hitler was democratically elected.
Hitler ... illegally proclaimed himself as a reich president, even without performing any elections.

Yeah, that's kinda what Yanukovich was going for, and why he got kicked out.

legendary
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Rassah : I need to remind people, AGAIN, that Hitler was democratically elected.

And so is now Valtsman (Poroshenko).

Why is it significant that he has more than one name? I never understood what the point was. It's like people using Barry Sotoero for Barack Obama... Who cares?

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only 2.5% of respondents say they will vote for Tyagnibok of “Svoboda”; and only 1.6% will  for Yarosh of “Pravyy sektor” (Right Sector), the two far-right Ukrainian parties.

Exactly. They don't have the popular support, yet, it's them who are calling the shots. Valtsman is more or less a puppet.

Sure he's a puppet. All heads of state answer to someone. Why do you think he's a puppet of the group tat has less than 2% of the popular support? If anything, he's the puppet of the Batkivshchyna party. Or do you still believe in the Russian fairy tales about fascists controlling Ukraine?

Ukraine bans RT crew from covering presidential election. Lol... not entirely unexpected. Who wants foreign media to cover a sham election?

That's not exactly a "foreign media" ban. Just a single specific previously-busted-for-propaganda ban.

Check your facts. The bans/journalist deportations touched ALL Russian news channels.

Yes, Russia. Not "foreign media," as Germany, Italy, France, Poland, USA, and others could still come in. Only Russia. You know, the country that Ukraine is practically at war with which was in large part Russian propaganda's fault in the first place. It'd be like yuo morons complaining about Poland banning Nazi Germany reporters coming in to do a news report on the success of German invasion.
legendary
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Donetsk miners march at pro-Russian rally:



A large "Battalion Vostok" convoy moves in the Donetsk oblast. Look at the last picture in the collage.  Kolomoyskyi won't be very happy. Grin

legendary
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Obama boasts in success of international isolation of Russia:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/378493
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/28/obama-west-point-speech_n_5404181.html



French Frigate Surcouf entered Black Sea this evening:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1223123?utm_medium=rss20



Now Poroshenko promises to sign the EU association agreement after the inauguration:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/28/05/2014/926936.shtml
legendary
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OK... now we have the first confirmed foreign interference in Ukraine.

CC-130J Hercules aircraft assists the Canadian Armed Forces Open Skies observation flight over Ukraine.
legendary
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Poroshenko asked to have some time to think before signing of association agreement with EU:
http://top.rbc.ru/politics/28/05/2014/926930.shtml

"Have some time to think" can be interpreted as "postpone". Wasn't it one of the reasons why Yanukovich was displaced in the first place..?



Yatsenjuk asks Putin to close Russian-Ukrainian border "to prevent entry of Russian soldiers on Ukrainian territory":
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/28/n_6189961.shtml
legendary
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Seems like Ukrainian soldiers from the central province of Poltava have also decided they will not obey the orders from Kiev junta and don’t want to fight in Eastern Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX2s3hwOVis

(Officer is scaring the soldiers with court charges, because they don't wish to fight their own people and the awful conditions.)
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