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Topic: MegaDice - Play Instant Bitcoin Dice & Be Part of the Bankroll - page 2. (Read 34656 times)

legendary
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@game-protect I still don't see your point. Tongue


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Bet on the House

You have the opportunity to be part of the House bankroll. The bankroll is the total amount that that players have placed to bet on the house and you are paid according to your percentage of the house's bankroll. The bankroll grows or shrinks in line with players losing or winning bets on the games at satoshidice.com. Satoshi Dice uses a 1.9% house edge and backers get 50% of the house wins or losses. The slot game uses a 3.5% edge. This means that the dice game gives a 0.95% Expected Value (EV) that is shared by the backers, and the SlotGame gives a 1.75% EV to the backers. Affiliate earnings, Leader Board rewards and other rewards are not paid by the backers, and there are no additional fees. Minimum amount to bet on the house is 0.001 and there is no upper limit.


The misunderstanding may be either because you are referring to a currently outdated T&C or they added the part later. It comes to whether or not the part was in there on Jan 11.

They added the slot part of course later. It was not stated in the "Bet on the House" terms and conditions January 11!

[img ]http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=61946813[/img]

See also: SatoshiDice Investor Scam

As I already explained, SatoshiDice investors never invested in SatoshiSlots and it is the criminal offense of fraud to reduce this 303 BTC slot win from
SatoshiDice investor account balances and I can prove it!

Interesting. AFAIK slot game share the same bankroll as the dice game. 'Satoshi Dice's bankroll' mean the entire bankroll of Satoshidice, of both the games. 'Satoshidice uses a 1.9% house edge...' is inconsistent with the first sentence, it suggests they did not update the terms after they integrated slots into Satoshidice or am I wrong? Did they?
newbie
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"game-protect"  you have a lot of fans here it seems: "Warning: Trade with extreme caution! " from your profile..     LOL
legendary
Activity: 1302
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@game-protect I still don't see your point. Tongue


Investments cover both Satoshidice and Satoshislots. Wins and losses in Satoshislots affect investor balances.

If you cannot win a big multiplier, what is the point in playing slots?

The round links for Satoshislots https://www.satoshislot.com/round/1431336?nick=Underdog01253 etc are not working.
Yes, they reduced the SatoshiSlot 303 BTC win from SatoshiDice investor account balances. But according to the "Bet on the house" terms and conditions, investors do not invest in SatoshiSlot!

And if you reduce SatoshiSlot losses from investor account balances, while they did not invest = criminal offense of fraud!

Which part are you not able to understand?

Satoshidice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared!

If they commit criminal offenses towards their investors, what is the point of investing there?

If they commit criminal offenses towards their investors, why would anyone play there? I mean, why would you support criminals, but at the same time moan in the forums if you got cheaten by an operator?

Does this make any sense?

If you do not like to get cheaten, simply avoid the scammers, even if you personally are probably not cheaten when playing there.

Do not feed criminals, if you do not like it! The honest operators deserve your business...

The article is also outdated.

https://blockchain.info/address/18e5jpfn9zo9GQov1Ks9Pzh6Yam2SvFqqo has 1,120.99992 BTC


Have some evidence to back your accusations. Right now it looks like all you want to do is spread FUD and get some customers on game-protect.
legendary
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Investments cover both Satoshidice and Satoshislots. Wins and losses in Satoshislots affect investor balances.

If you cannot win a big multiplier, what is the point in playing slots?

The round links for Satoshislots https://www.satoshislot.com/round/1431336?nick=Underdog01253 etc are not working.
Yes, they reduced the SatoshiSlot 303 BTC win from SatoshiDice investor account balances. But according to the "Bet on the house" terms and conditions, investors do not invest in SatoshiSlot!

And if you reduce SatoshiSlot losses from investor account balances, while they did not invest = criminal offense of fraud!

Which part are you not able to understand?

Satoshidice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared!

If they commit criminal offenses towards their investors, what is the point of investing there?

If they commit criminal offenses towards their investors, why would anyone play there? I mean, why would you support criminals, but at the same time moan in the forums if you got cheaten by an operator?

Does this make any sense?

If you do not like to get cheaten, simply avoid the scammers, even if you personally are probably not cheaten when playing there.

Do not feed criminals, if you do not like it! The honest operators deserve your business...

Well its very difficult to say if they are scammers or not because on the other thread someone had a 72 BTC amount stolen. After much complaining the site eventually resolved the issue because the user commented that he was satisfied with the result.

So its really difficult to say if they are criminal or just plain lazy or disorangzied. If they were scammers then they wouldn't of sent him back the 72 BTC.
legendary
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Dean, nice to have you back. I invested here. And I see that my 72btc became 66 btc in the last days.. but that may be through normal winning/loosing of some whales. I am very worried however that I loose money but the banks profit does not fall???

Looking at the charts:

https://dicesites.com/satoshidice

On Jan 11 they ostensibly lost 326 BTC, so that's probably where the drop comes from
Rhavar.. Thank you a lot for your answer.. Yes.. that makes sense...
That was this guy Underdog. See his statistics https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36
He plays always 0,25 btc.. but when he wins he has a leverage of hundreds and when he looses he only has 0,16 x .
So. He signed up on 11 of January and won 300+ bitcoins in one run... Hey...GIVE ME A BREAK>> the guy know the server seed...Do you not think?? I am not so savvy in theses things.. but it seems fishy.. Any opinions? Or an explanation of Satoshidice...PLEAAAASE

So he won that much with 58% of luck?? That's really impossible without knowing the seeds or something. It smells.

https://www.satoshidice.com/stats/#slotGameCumulativeProfitSlot shows a 300BTC drop on Jan 11. It is from Slots not Dice.

AFAIK Satoshidice doesn't show profit of player, so we don't even know if Underdog has made a profit or loss. I don't see anything really suspicious here.
The same day this user account is created and wins a 303 BTC slot with untypical $250 bets = nothing suspicious?

This amount reduced from SatoshiDice investor account balances, while they do not invest in SatoshiSlot = nothing suspicious?

Investments cover both Satoshidice and Satoshislots. Wins and losses in Satoshislots affect investor balances.

If you cannot win a big multiplier, what is the point in playing slots?

The round links for Satoshislots https://www.satoshislot.com/round/1431336?nick=Underdog01253 etc are not working.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
Dean, nice to have you back. I invested here. And I see that my 72btc became 66 btc in the last days.. but that may be through normal winning/loosing of some whales. I am very worried however that I loose money but the banks profit does not fall???

Looking at the charts:

https://dicesites.com/satoshidice

On Jan 11 they ostensibly lost 326 BTC, so that's probably where the drop comes from
Rhavar.. Thank you a lot for your answer.. Yes.. that makes sense...
That was this guy Underdog. See his statistics https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36
He plays always 0,25 btc.. but when he wins he has a leverage of hundreds and when he looses he only has 0,16 x .
So. He signed up on 11 of January and won 300+ bitcoins in one run... Hey...GIVE ME A BREAK>> the guy know the server seed...Do you not think?? I am not so savvy in theses things.. but it seems fishy.. Any opinions? Or an explanation of Satoshidice...PLEAAAASE

So he won that much with 58% of luck?? That's really impossible without knowing the seeds or something. It smells.

https://www.satoshidice.com/stats/#slotGameCumulativeProfitSlot shows a 300BTC drop on Jan 11. It is from Slots not Dice.

AFAIK Satoshidice doesn't show profit of player, so we don't even know if Underdog has made a profit or loss. I don't see anything really suspicious here.
member
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...as in..when you go in with xx btc and then have 0...you know U R bust...haha
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
Why do they not show the "Total Net Won" of a player?

How can investors see / prove the "Total Net Won" of satoshidice.com?

Because I think it is private information... sort of..
Private information in the sense of satoshidice.com keeps this information secret or in the sense of investors receive this information per personal message or can see it within their investor account?
member
Activity: 80
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Why do they not show the "Total Net Won" of a player?

How can investors see / prove the "Total Net Won" of satoshidice.com?
Because I think it is private information... sort of..
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
Why do they not show the "Total Net Won" of a player?

How can investors see / prove the "Total Net Won" of satoshidice.com?
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 14
It's none of my business anymore since I divested from your bankroll.
But your new user https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36 Underdog01253 has by now won 1500, one thousand five hundred! Bitcoins... with 60% luck..
Hail the gamblers..
I am really happy for the guy.. But I continue thinking it unlikely...
I just saw it with my own statistics.. This page only shows the won amount.. So it is likely that underdog01253 has lost a considerable amount.. however we do not see the result openly.. He is just a whale and I was wrongly worried that the site might have a problem.. sorry about the confusion
member
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It's none of my business anymore since I divested from your bankroll.
But your new user https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36 Underdog01253 has by now won 1500, one thousand five hundred! Bitcoins... with 60% luck..
Hail the gamblers..
I am really happy for the guy.. But I continue thinking it unlikely...
member
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Jake,
I agree with you. Ask the (inexistent) support for you access logs, so you can figure out what happened. Ask the blockchain history of you address.. (that you can even look up yourself I think.. if you remember the addresses.. ). And.. for your amount they should provide a skype or fone that you can talk.. we are talking about 60k USD..
Hope you can figure it out..
maiden...
newbie
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I've been updating in the other thread, but want to keep both threads up to date on the situation.

After 15 days of silence, Randian Hero has PMd me simply "someone got your password" with zero details or evidence. To summarize the ridiculousness of this:

- Myself and (at least) 2 other high balance investors had our accounts emptied out in the Dec 27 - Jan 4 time frame.
- During this time, you can see multiple people complaining about the hot wallet being empty, and being unable to cashout small amounts, like <1BTC.
- Yet the stolen amount is around 150 BTC between the three accounts - first noticed on 1/4 - and the implication is that these funds are gone, which makes no sense given how hard it was for anyone to get even small amounts off the site during that period.
- Even if the 3 investors were coincidentally compromised at the same time, given that there's no way that much could have been taken off the site in that time frame, it would have been extremely easy for them to freeze 90-100% of the funds until they figured out what happened.
- There was no mention of any email being sent my address about withdrawal requests or password resets. Presumably both of these things would have happened under a normal 'hacking' scenario.

At this point it is very hard to imagine any explanation but that the site has robbed us. It's almost pointless to try and communicate with them, since their response to a large robbery to is literally to PM short sentences every 15 days, that contain no meaningful information, and ignore everything else.
member
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There's been some minor updates made to the website:

  • It is now more clear that winning one of the leader boards no longer gives a prize.

Do you plan to return this feature?
I enjoyed the competition.

No idea why this thread exists when its not the main thread for Satoshidice, it would be best for this thread to get locked because its annoying checking these 2 main threads.
It's explained in the first post.
The old thread has outdated information in the OP which can't be removed by the new owners.
legendary
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Is there even somebody around in this forum? Or only lawyers trying to sell legal advice and scammers trying to throw oil imto the fire??
I got 55 btc out of my 68 ...so not all is that bad...obviousely hope they prop up hotwallet soon..
Their support is non existent as far as I have experienced??? Sad.
Maiden

No idea why this thread exists when its not the main thread for Satoshidice, it would be best for this thread to get locked because its annoying checking these 2 main threads.

The main thread where the owner provides support is located at
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshidicecom-the-worlds-most-popular-bitcoin-game-77870

From time to time the owner chimes in and refills the wallet and answers some questions. However from a standpoint, I would say that support is virtually non-existent.
member
Activity: 80
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Is there even somebody around in this forum? Or only lawyers trying to sell legal advice and scammers trying to throw oil imto the fire??
I got 55 btc out of my 68 ...so not all is that bad...obviousely hope they prop up hotwallet soon..
Their support is non existent as far as I have experienced??? Sad.
Maiden
member
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Merit: 14
Hey Radian,
Have you checked all these users on your site with names like pirate012334 or underdog12345, all created on 13 Jan 2016 and all winning like hell?
Please write somehting so I know you guys still exist.
I tried today to retrieve 68 btc and managed 5 OK. Please tell when you prop up hotwallet.
Yours maiden
hero member
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Dean, nice to have you back. I invested here. And I see that my 72btc became 66 btc in the last days.. but that may be through normal winning/loosing of some whales. I am very worried however that I loose money but the banks profit does not fall???

Looking at the charts:

https://dicesites.com/satoshidice

On Jan 11 they ostensibly lost 326 BTC, so that's probably where the drop comes from
Rhavar.. Thank you a lot for your answer.. Yes.. that makes sense...
That was this guy Underdog. See his statistics https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36
He plays always 0,25 btc.. but when he wins he has a leverage of hundreds and when he looses he only has 0,16 x .
So. He signed up on 11 of January and won 300+ bitcoins in one run... Hey...GIVE ME A BREAK>> the guy know the server seed...Do you not think?? I am not so savvy in theses things.. but it seems fishy.. Any opinions? Or an explanation of Satoshidice...PLEAAAASE

So he won that much with 58% of luck?? That's really impossible without knowing the seeds or something. It smells.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 507
Dean, nice to have you back. I invested here. And I see that my 72btc became 66 btc in the last days.. but that may be through normal winning/loosing of some whales. I am very worried however that I loose money but the banks profit does not fall???

Looking at the charts:

https://dicesites.com/satoshidice

On Jan 11 they ostensibly lost 326 BTC, so that's probably where the drop comes from
Rhavar.. Thank you a lot for your answer.. Yes.. that makes sense...
That was this guy Underdog. See his statistics https://www.satoshidice.com/user/ed10cec930365a1af6db2225843f6e36
He plays always 0,25 btc.. but when he wins he has a leverage of hundreds and when he looses he only has 0,16 x .
So. He signed up on 11 of January and won 300+ bitcoins in one run... Hey...GIVE ME A BREAK>> the guy know the server seed...Do you not think?? I am not so savvy in theses things.. but it seems fishy.. Any opinions? Or an explanation of Satoshidice...PLEAAAASE
Good question! How can investors check if really a foreign customer won these 300+ Bitcoins? Where is the transparency?

Considering that larger amounts escaped from investors' accounts and satoshidice probably will be declared bunkrupt if victims initiate legal action, I would be not surprised if this 300+ Bitcoins win was an inside job.

From primedice website

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MOST PROFIT MONTHLY

Noctis44: 53.25610045 BTC

Sin44: 51.36959127 BTC

Alleged win on satoshidice 6 x higher and exactly after large Bitcoin amounts escaped from investors' accounts! Very curious....
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