Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit - page 13.

Lanatsa

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Quote from: bitbunnny on March 18, 2019, 11:04:53 AM

Quote from: Indamuck on March 17, 2019, 11:46:17 AM

Quote from: bantano on March 14, 2019, 09:16:17 AM

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

Its just as bad as before and it may have even gotten worse. Merit did nothing to counter spam, it just encourages more shady behavior because now people have some type of black market currency they can also trade. I wish we had the old system back because I believe the merit system is truly broken. I see many great posters go un merited and it just seems wildly unfair.

I completely agree. I can't see any improvement of merit system. Unfortunately people have found the way to abuse merits and it's obviously there are many who are trading it. I.don't want to say that merit is a bad concept, just that is poor executed and often abused by dishonest users who have made business out of it a kind of keep monopole on it. This should be changed.

It isn't poorly executed but rather theymos do create a system which do really somehow completely stop of account selling on this forum.Take a look back when
merit system isn't implemented yet, we can see how rampant is account selling on this forum and with the new system it do completely slows down or cut it of by 75%
because you cant rank up easily without earning any merits.

bitbunnny

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Quote from: Indamuck on March 17, 2019, 11:46:17 AM

Quote from: bantano on March 14, 2019, 09:16:17 AM

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

Its just as bad as before and it may have even gotten worse. Merit did nothing to counter spam, it just encourages more shady behavior because now people have some type of black market currency they can also trade. I wish we had the old system back because I believe the merit system is truly broken. I see many great posters go un merited and it just seems wildly unfair.

I completely agree. I can't see any improvement of merit system. Unfortunately people have found the way to abuse merits and it's obviously there are many who are trading it. I.don't want to say that merit is a bad concept, just that is poor executed and often abused by dishonest users who have made business out of it a kind of keep monopole on it. This should be changed.

Indamuck

hero member

Activity: 1120

Merit: 554

Quote from: bantano on March 14, 2019, 09:16:17 AM

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

Its just as bad as before and it may have even gotten worse. Merit did nothing to counter spam, it just encourages more shady behavior because now people have some type of black market currency they can also trade. I wish we had the old system back because I believe the merit system is truly broken. I see many great posters go un merited and it just seems wildly unfair.

Lordhermes

sr. member

Activity: 1232

Merit: 379

From recent findings and constant readings, I was told that trading/exchanging bitcointalk merit for BTC and traditional currency is fully prohibited here. Actually, merit shows how maturity account is which everybody wants to attain,but doesn't mean members should violate the merit rules and regulations of the forum.

Tungsten-1

sr. member

Activity: 994

Merit: 256

Quote from: jvdp on March 15, 2019, 07:30:06 AM

Quote from: bantano on March 15, 2019, 06:30:26 AM

Awesome, just saw it as well. Thanks for the help and explanation guys, much appreciated!

This is not the place to learn about merits, if you want to learn more about you must check the Theymos's official announcement on meta section. It will give a more clear explanation about the merit system and new rank requirements.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

All the best to rank up soon Wink

Yeah this is good you have given wise things for us, it is not a good idea to buy merit because here we work only to get money for working fairly I think participation in such things should be banned, low quality and useless posts were being so unbearable and appalling, so it is all about poster we should take good way to rise our rank and work with our potential and knowledge.

jvdp

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Quote from: bantano on March 15, 2019, 06:30:26 AM

Awesome, just saw it as well. Thanks for the help and explanation guys, much appreciated!

This is not the place to learn about merits, if you want to learn more about you must check the Theymos's official announcement on meta section. It will give a more clear explanation about the merit system and new rank requirements.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

All the best to rank up soon Wink

bantano

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Awesome, just saw it as well. Thanks for the help and explanation guys, much appreciated!

Hamphser

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Quote from: bantano on March 14, 2019, 09:16:17 AM

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

You are already a Jr. member yet you have been merited by someone on that local post you had made.Next stop would be Member rank. Theres no specific time on how often would someone sent you out smerits
as long you do make constructive post, the community would anytime give out as much as they like as long your post do gives contribution or worthy to be merited.

TravelMug

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Activity: 2632

Merit: 833

Quote from: bantano on March 14, 2019, 09:16:17 AM

Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

What do you mean you're looking to be a Junior Member? You already achieved that as someone already gave you merit.

Well someone gives you a merit if they see that your comment has somewhat contributed something to the discussion. So it is still on the discretion of the reader. Sometimes even one liner can get you a merit, assuming that it is a straight forward and give the right answer to the thread starter. And congratz, by the way.

bantano

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Merit: 21

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Hi guys,
I agree that it would be much more spammy here without a system like merit, and that trading merit per se is not something good. I'm currently looking forward to become a Junior Member and just wonder how often it happens that someone actually gives merit to someone else? Is that only done for exceptionally good posts? Not looking into detailed stats, just wondering what my chances are. Wink

Jating

hero member

Activity: 2842

Merit: 772

There's another update but this time its the on the Default Trust, DefaultTrust changes.

So we should be aware of not just trading or buying or selling merits but be wary of this new changes as well. For those who haven't visited Meta yet, I urge you to do so. so that you will be updated as well.

barbara44

hero member

Activity: 2534

Merit: 605

Quote from: fabianji on February 03, 2018, 10:31:08 PM

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

There are two types of merits you know that right? Huh

There is Merits and Smerits. Merits are the ones you get, but as for smerits, keeping them is useless cause there is nothing you can do with it, apart from giving it someone. There was where this was explained in the forum, don’t have the link ,if not I would have copied and pasted it here.

But let’s assume that I have 10 smerits and I send them to you, you will receive 10 merits and 5 smerits. Those 5 smerits you can give them to someone else too, but as for the 10 merits you got, those ones can’t be given out to someone.

MidKnight

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Activity: 476

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Quote from: Indamuck on January 12, 2019, 10:02:51 AM

Honestly most people that were already a Hero or Legendary member like the merit system because it makes it difficult for new users to rank up to their level so they feel more special to be in an exclusive club. Of course not everyone is like this but it is sort of a screw you I got mine mentality that we see in the world today.

I agree and rewarding opportunites now only circles around them. Signature campaigns that pays in btc only considers legendary and hero member nowadays so those low ranks like us has no chance to get in. I'm also wondering how much they get whenever they accept ICO projects today just to post it an ANN or in Bounties.

Indamuck

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Activity: 1120

Merit: 554

Honestly most people that were already a Hero or Legendary member like the merit system because it makes it difficult for new users to rank up to their level so they feel more special to be in an exclusive club. Of course not everyone is like this but it is sort of a screw you I got mine mentality that we see in the world today.

davinchi

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Activity: 2100

Merit: 1058

Quote from: fabianji on February 03, 2018, 10:31:08 PM

Very interesting to see the reactions to the newly introduced concept of merit as an additional indicator of account maturity and quality beyond just pure number of posts / activity. While this was introduced to increase post quality it has of course created a counter movement and a market place for "trading" merit - for money.
So this is just a reminder for everyone that the introduction of merit is a GOOD thing because it will help improve the quality of this forum for everybody.

"Trading" merit will undermine this and render it eventually useless.

Keep contributing!

Merit is one of the best features that has been introduced in this forum and it has helped in a lot of ways. I’m not even aware that people also trades merit, doesn’t seem like a good idea to me, they are trying to abuse it and that’s not going to help in anyway.

Merits can also be a way for us to know who to trust in this forum. If people continues to sell merits, then it wouldn’t make sense any longer, so those who are into such should refrain from it.

emulsifryer

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 10, 2019, 02:42:47 PM

Quote from: Stedsm on January 10, 2019, 10:32:52 AM

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

That's the reason why most of the users here are making a spam post it's because it is not easy to earn such merits and besides we all want merits in order to be ranked up. As what I have observed many users like me don't usually earn such merits even if I'll make a better quality post, because most higher ranked members here don't usually give merits or even appreciating some post of ours with this kind of a rank level.

Stedsm

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 10, 2019, 02:42:47 PM

Quote from: Stedsm on January 10, 2019, 10:32:52 AM

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Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

Well, then I believe that they don't really have the right to even ask/beg/cry for the same thing. They should know that they are given an authority with received merits and they're equally responsible to help newbies and others (not saying that they should specifically be low rank members only, but what's the meaning of keeping them) by choosing which of their fellow members' posts are worth giving a merit, as hoarding will get no one nowhere. They complain why merit sources and high rank members are not co-operating and helping them, but remember, even God helps those who help themselves. Even high rank members and merit sources are getting limited number of sMerits each month and they can't run this merit thing alone, so these low rank members who gain good amount of merits need to understand that with an authority comes responsibility.

carlfebz2

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Quote from: Stedsm on January 10, 2019, 10:32:52 AM

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

Not all low ranks would have that mentality and most of them wont really care at all.They do even choose up to stagnant their smerits without even realizing that it cant really make any changes
if they do done such thing.

Stedsm

legendary

Activity: 3052

Merit: 1273

IMHO, I believe that low-level members like Jr. Members, Members and even Full members should also join hands in motivating their fellow (same or lower ranks) members by giving sMerits that they get assigned while they receive merits for their posts. For every 2 merits you receive, you get 1 sMerits, so what's the purpose of keeping those sMerits with yourself when you can give hands to the deserving people and help them gain merits through you as well, though not putting the whole pressure of responsibility on high rank members and merit sources alone. This will be a big step in stopping trading of merits.

Kayum10029

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Activity: 1190

Merit: 100

Merit trading, buying and selling is a punishable activities in bitcointalk forum. If anyone does this action and caught in hands he must get negative trust.

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