Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit - page 3.

Sayeds56

copper member

Activity: 1260

Merit: 698

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on March 28, 2021, 12:32:33 AM

Quote from: Sayeds56 on March 26, 2021, 07:18:52 PM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on March 26, 2021, 04:35:41 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

I think that was the purpose of Merit system in the first place because back then there were a lot of spammers in the forum and they find that merit is a good system because it filters out the people that spams from the one that does quality post, although there are those that got away because they had been spamming a lot even before the merit system. Buying and selling merits is such a scummy way because it is unfair to those that were trying to go up through honest work.

I totally agree with your thoughts that trading Merits will be unfair to those who really work hard to create a good quality post but being not very old on this forum I am unable to understand what is the criteria to determine whether post deserves merit or not. i think It is totally based on jurisdiction of one person and lacks any mechanism or system that should be basis of granting merits. Please advise your comments.

There is no criteria of sending merit to certain posts or not sending merit to certain post. You may send merit to a one liner post and you my not send merit to a post which is half a paragraph. If you like a post you can send the merit to it and the liking depends upon your personal wish. No one is bound to ask why you give merit to a post or why you did not give merit to the post. That's is how the merit work and it works perfectly.

Thanks Umer bhai.I fully understand what you are saying but I am questioning the fairness of this merit awarding system which is totally based on personnel likes and dislikes and in my opinion , it is not enough to determine quality of post. If there would be any pre-described standard of metrics to evaluate the quality of post, for example, length of post, views , comments on post and the content should not deviate from topic, then it would look more fair and Transparent. The purpose of initiating debate on this sensitive' topic is to come up with suggestions from active members to further refine this system. Hope our voice will be heard.

UmerIdrees

hero member

Activity: 2226

Merit: 834

Quote from: Sayeds56 on March 26, 2021, 07:18:52 PM

Quote from: Lorence.xD on March 26, 2021, 04:35:41 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

I think that was the purpose of Merit system in the first place because back then there were a lot of spammers in the forum and they find that merit is a good system because it filters out the people that spams from the one that does quality post, although there are those that got away because they had been spamming a lot even before the merit system. Buying and selling merits is such a scummy way because it is unfair to those that were trying to go up through honest work.

I totally agree with your thoughts that trading Merits will be unfair to those who really work hard to create a good quality post but being not very old on this forum I am unable to understand what is the criteria to determine whether post deserves merit or not. i think It is totally based on jurisdiction of one person and lacks any mechanism or system that should be basis of granting merits. Please advise your comments.

There is no criteria of sending merit to certain posts or not sending merit to certain post. You may send merit to a one liner post and you my not send merit to a post which is half a paragraph. If you like a post you can send the merit to it and the liking depends upon your personal wish. No one is bound to ask why you give merit to a post or why you did not give merit to the post. That's is how the merit work and it works perfectly.

Sayeds56

copper member

Activity: 1260

Merit: 698

Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!

Quote from: Lorence.xD on March 26, 2021, 04:35:41 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

I think that was the purpose of Merit system in the first place because back then there were a lot of spammers in the forum and they find that merit is a good system because it filters out the people that spams from the one that does quality post, although there are those that got away because they had been spamming a lot even before the merit system. Buying and selling merits is such a scummy way because it is unfair to those that were trying to go up through honest work.

I totally agree with your thoughts that trading Merits will be unfair to those who really work hard to create a good quality post but being not very old on this forum I am unable to understand what is the criteria to determine whether post deserves merit or not. i think It is totally based on jurisdiction of one person and lacks any mechanism or system that should be basis of granting merits. Please advise your comments.

Taskford

hero member

Activity: 2520

Merit: 783

Quote from: Lorence.xD on March 26, 2021, 04:35:41 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

I think that was the purpose of Merit system in the first place because back then there were a lot of spammers in the forum, although there are those that got away because they had been spamming a lot even before the merit system. Buying and selling merits is such a scummy way because it is unfair to those that were trying to go up through honest work.

Not only that it reduces the account buying and selling activities since not everyone can able to rank up due to the merit system also the scamming of Hero to Legendary users has been decreased due to this implementation also that's why in my own opinion merit system is truly good system implemented here. That's why other tried to buy it but not everyone succeed since many has been reported for doing so and this is not good act since its like cheating the system.

Lorence.xD

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Activity: 1624

Merit: 315

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Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

I think that was the purpose of Merit system in the first place because back then there were a lot of spammers in the forum and they find that merit is a good system because it filters out the people that spams from the one that does quality post, although there are those that got away because they had been spamming a lot even before the merit system. Buying and selling merits is such a scummy way because it is unfair to those that were trying to go up through honest work.

MuffinMaster

sr. member

Activity: 1414

Merit: 265

Pepemo.vip

That’s very unfortunate that people have started buying and selling merits along with high level accounts. This will greatly degrade quality of contents posted here. Many times we saw very basic questions coming from Senior level and up accounts that’s because newbie buy high level accounts.

Kuncha

member

Activity: 247

Merit: 10

Quote from: rat03gopoh on February 04, 2018, 12:22:16 AM

Indirectly "sMerit" is given to the person who plays a role behind an account. If it is sold then the account changes character because of owner change. And it will be different sMerit to get, the new owner can get faster sMerit because more qualified or otherwise never again get sMerit.

Kuncha

member

Activity: 247

Merit: 10

Quote from: Kuncha on March 17, 2021, 03:25:40 AM

Quote from: Sayeds56 on March 16, 2021, 11:54:59 PM

Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

I totally subscribe to your views about current merit system which has made difficult for new comers to rank up as people give merits based on personnel liking or groups of people share merits among them and quality of posts is not the only criteria to get merit which was the core purpose introducing merit system.

Kuncha

member

Activity: 247

Merit: 10

Quote from: Sayeds56 on March 16, 2021, 11:54:59 PM

Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

I totally subscribe to your views about current merit system which has made difficult for new comers to rank up as people give merits based on personnel liking or groups of people share merits among them and quality of posts is not the only criteria to get merit which was the core purpose introducing merit system.

Kuncha

member

Activity: 247

Merit: 10

Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

Kuncha

member

Activity: 247

Merit: 10

Quote from: rat03gopoh on February 04, 2018, 12:22:16 AM

Indirectly "sMerit" is given to the person who plays a role behind an account. If it is sold then the account changes character because of owner change. And it will be different sMerit to get, the new owner can get faster sMerit because more qualified or otherwise never again get sMerit.

Sayeds56

copper member

Activity: 1260

Merit: 698

Eloncoin.org - Mars, here we come!

Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

I totally subscribe to your views about current merit system which has made difficult for new comers to rank up as people give merits based on personnel liking or groups of people share merits among them and quality of posts is not the only criteria to get merit which was the core purpose of introducing merit system. The management of the Forum should review it and make an objective assessment " whether this system is achieving its desired goals or not".

Taskford

hero member

Activity: 2520

Merit: 783

Quote from: hahay on November 24, 2020, 02:47:01 PM

Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

I don't know if there is a special group or maybe something like that, even a newbie user has an easier chance of receiving merit if he really contributes and is of good quality. When you realize the purpose of merit itself, it also means that all users will be treated the same without exception because after all, if you are qualified to get merit then there will be many users who will also support you to increase your ranking, right.

But let's not deny the fact that newbies need to double their effort since mostly they are the one who last to be noticed and receive those merits in terms of posting some good contents mostly the one who get merits are those high ranks with good reputation here, I don't mean this happen always but this is what I notice here.

But newbies shouldn't get discourage upon receiving those merit slow since this is pretty normal they should make sure to be active and continue to contribute a good post since for sure that one will be the key to rank up here.

hahay

legendary

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Merit: 1055

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Quote from: mexite on November 24, 2020, 09:08:18 AM

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

I don't know if there is a special group or maybe something like that, even a newbie user has an easier chance of receiving merit if he really contributes and is of good quality. When you realize the purpose of merit itself, it also means that all users will be treated the same without exception because after all, if you are qualified to get merit then there will be many users who will also support you to increase your ranking, right.

mexite

jr. member

Activity: 701

Merit: 4

The introduction of merit system to Bitcointalk is a great idea aimed to reduce spamming and low quality contributions. But I believe that it should be implemented in a way that also favors newbies in ranking up. Some members are engaged in merit racketeering or trading, and that may make it harder for low ranked members to rank up as they do not belong to this "special group".

carlfebz2

hero member

Activity: 2926

Merit: 722

Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

Quote from: Ratash on November 19, 2020, 03:59:05 PM

Sure i totally agree i have a full member account and i almost became a senior member i just needed a couple of weeks when the merit notion was introduced in the forum but still i consider it as a positif thing because indeed the objectifs of the merit system is to improve posts quality and to build a constructive community allowing all the forum members new and old ones to improve their knowledge about bitcoin and crypto in general.

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

Merit system is the best modification that had been done on this forum to prevent out those ranking up on accounts without any hardship or efforts but only posting out and wait up for the right time for them to rank up.

This idea was perfect to prevent the spam of this forum yet we know on how high ranking members of this forum do make out money that came out from promotions which means majority will
be aiming on ranking up their accounts in no time.

If you do try to look at on what happened and compared the intensity of spam of this forum before and after merit system had been created then you can tell the difference.

blckhawk

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Quote from: Renampun on November 20, 2020, 03:22:20 AM

Quote from: Ratash on November 19, 2020, 03:59:05 PM

Sure i totally agree i have a full member account and i almost became a senior member i just needed a couple of weeks when the merit notion was introduced in the forum but still i consider it as a positif thing because indeed the objectifs of the merit system is to improve posts quality and to build a constructive community allowing all the forum members new and old ones to improve their knowledge about bitcoin and crypto in general.

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

Yeah, right I think it is better for our own good I think. If merits don't get implemented the forum would probably become a mess. There will be a lot of accounts will become legendary/hero with just posting a useless kind of stuff, not making any effort and such. The merit system serves as a regulator for this forum. However, I heard some stories that other members try to cheat and trade merits with others which is kinda sad because they disregard the main purpose of the merit system. But there are some people who chasing this kind of doing making them pay for what they did like giving them a red tag.

Renampun

sr. member

Activity: 2044

Merit: 329

Quote from: Ratash on November 19, 2020, 03:59:05 PM

Sure i totally agree i have a full member account and i almost became a senior member i just needed a couple of weeks when the merit notion was introduced in the forum but still i consider it as a positif thing because indeed the objectifs of the merit system is to improve posts quality and to build a constructive community allowing all the forum members new and old ones to improve their knowledge about bitcoin and crypto in general.

the 'merit' system is great IMO...
Just imagine if there was no 'merit' system then we would see tens of thousands of spammer become legendary. The 'merit' system is perfect for getting members to enhance their posts.

Ratash

full member

Activity: 1540

Merit: 102

Sure i totally agree i have a full member account and i almost became a senior member i just needed a couple of weeks when the merit notion was introduced in the forum but still i consider it as a positif thing because indeed the objectifs of the merit system is to improve posts quality and to build a constructive community allowing all the forum members new and old ones to improve their knowledge about bitcoin and crypto in general.

rhomelmabini

hero member

Activity: 2002

Merit: 578

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on November 18, 2020, 01:49:32 PM

I think anyone caught in the act of trading sMerit should be banned alongside the buyer, but then, the question now is how do we know people commit this crime?
Am totally not in support of sMerit trading so am suggesting that if the Admins can come up with a strategy to verify each sMerit being sent to a member, to make sure it's not being traded, then it will for sure be a step forward for this great forum.

It isn't crime but more like dishonesty, I think crime is an exaggerating concept just because of the act of merit selling or buying. By the way, the only obvious case that people may be red trusted or anything maybe flag is when they found they are alt of each other and it's exchanging merits onto his other alt/s, just my two cents.

There's no way to tell there's a buying/selling happening as there is/are no tool/s to determine that. Well, maybe there are determinants for example user A sent huge sMerit to user B but the post isn't worthy of a merit so on that it will make doubts about that merited post. Moreover, even by that scenario some people find it still vague but it's expected to give them both the benefit nof the doubt.

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