Merit "trading" - buying and selling Bitcointalk merit - page 7.

posi

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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on December 19, 2019, 08:10:53 AM

Quote from: inanilujimi on December 15, 2019, 03:20:19 AM

Slowly this merit system makes the discussion forum healthier, although slowly this forum decreases active members not because of the merit system but crypto values cannot yet get out of the bear market.

Are you sure about that?

I think it wasn't about crypto prices but it was just merit system for sure. For those who makes this forum as source income either through bounty program or signature which pay in bitcoin they will hard to earn more as they can before the merit system came.

Have you consider, one people who have a bunch of alt account and he chooses one bounty campaign with his all account then how much money they will he get? (Let forget scam project) But since the merit system came they will focus to choose one account because he needs merit to make his account rank up. If he didn't do that and he still use all his account he will tired and will be useless moreover if the account is junior/member or even newbie.

You both make a good point but the reason why the forum decreased by active members was not because of crypto price but the holidays, vacations etc which usually take place in this month while the merit system and plagiarized rules/regulations penalties implemented by the forum moderators were the reason why the forum discussion reduced and healthier.

Roger that Wink

Ridwan Fauzi

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Quote from: inanilujimi on December 15, 2019, 03:20:19 AM

Slowly this merit system makes the discussion forum healthier, although slowly this forum decreases active members not because of the merit system but crypto values cannot yet get out of the bear market.

Are you sure about that?

I think it wasn't about crypto prices but it was just merit system for sure. For those who makes this forum as source income either through bounty program or signature which pay in bitcoin they will hard to earn more as they can before the merit system came.

Have you consider, one people who have a bunch of alt account and he chooses one bounty campaign with his all account then how much money they will he get? (Let forget scam project) But since the merit system came they will focus to choose one account because he needs merit to make his account rank up. If he didn't do that and he still use all his account he will tired and will be useless moreover if the account is junior/member or even newbie.

Mulann2

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I think now after so many months of introducing the merit system to rank up we can say that it has been some how effective, at least it has reduce the way members rank up in forum like before, now only those who worked hard can earn merit, i guess this why many people will result to buying it, this has also help to reduce spam in the forum.

inanilujimi

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Slowly this merit system makes the discussion forum healthier, although slowly this forum decreases active members not because of the merit system but crypto values cannot yet get out of the bear market.

carlfebz2

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Quote from: jqprez on November 16, 2019, 06:30:16 AM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on November 15, 2019, 06:04:49 PM

Quote from: jqprez on November 15, 2019, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: akmal1984 on November 14, 2019, 11:43:32 PM

Quote from: DeathProxy on November 14, 2019, 10:38:24 PM

The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

100% agree. Merit should only be given to quality posts. I see more merit being given to accounts reporting fraud in the forum. I am a little confused whether the quality of the post is comparable to other accounts that make mistakes / cheating? if it's really like that then there will be many snitchers later in this forum. Even now everywhere I am sure he is in various sub forums.

totally agree. In italian forum there are"two" accounts with 5 stars ( hero i think) that exchange continuously merits and the moderator don' t stop them.

You can always post up on reputation section regarding on what you have noticed.If you do see something suspicious with their activity then
let the public decide and investigate if its indeed a merit trading between alts or just a casual exchange of meriting between users.
Theres no wrong if you do simultaneously merit a one person as long those merited post are worthy ones.

yes, but if is for one or two times, not continuosly in the same post

Yeah you're right! It do looks shady if thats the case.

Here people some sort of example on how these merit sellers can be caught on: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/legendary-merit-seller-5209319

trendmark3482

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Merit: Merit is very easy to find. Because you can help someone else get merit. And cryptos can be found by posting about Bitcoin. Actually not like this anymore. Why not be a junior member of the merit stream before. But now you don't have to have at least 5 merits, you can't be a junior member and you have to activate. And you're wondering how to get merit. Then you should avoid spam posts. Posting spamming, Hi, hello kmn asen, what are you doing, eating? This is a spam post if you post these you will not get merit.
And if you have any problems, seek help from the seniors so you can go all the way and everyone here is from Another Country But you can say this here in your problem and if you have difficulty let me know and help you as I can.

Thanks.

Orochimarukin

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The merit system was introduced to ensure that users make quality post and help grow the forum, not the spammy low quality content of many with the purpose of ranking up faster.

andycarrol

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Quote from: culuuton on December 11, 2019, 06:44:24 AM

Quote from: andycarrol on December 10, 2019, 07:42:30 AM

Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on December 08, 2019, 02:26:44 AM

Quote from: asyakashi on November 27, 2019, 07:06:12 PM

should be allowed but at a reasonable price.
I think the forum will benefit from getting payment from new members.
payment using ethereum or bitcoin, good idea.

Do you mean selling or buying merit is the thing that should be done by forum's moderator?

What the hell are you thinking? Merit will be usefull to reduce the spammer on this forum.

new members, in the beginning, they have to pay some satoshi CMIIW.
but regarding buying or selling merit I think this is prohibited because buying and selling accounts is also currently prohibited, which was once permissible. because of many crimes like scammers.
so, of course, the function of applying merit is to reduce spammers, so how can they be free to buy and sell merit in this forum.

In this forum, they absolutely can't buy or sell merit but they can do it through other forums. There are many accounts that have been marked untrusted when posting for sale.

although they do transactions outside the forum, I think it's easy enough to indicate that he gets merit from the results of buying, because in this forum that looks worth to get merit is with good quality and useful posts.

culuuton

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Quote from: andycarrol on December 10, 2019, 07:42:30 AM

Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on December 08, 2019, 02:26:44 AM

Quote from: asyakashi on November 27, 2019, 07:06:12 PM

should be allowed but at a reasonable price.
I think the forum will benefit from getting payment from new members.
payment using ethereum or bitcoin, good idea.

Do you mean selling or buying merit is the thing that should be done by forum's moderator?

What the hell are you thinking? Merit will be usefull to reduce the spammer on this forum.

new members, in the beginning, they have to pay some satoshi CMIIW.
but regarding buying or selling merit I think this is prohibited because buying and selling accounts is also currently prohibited, which was once permissible. because of many crimes like scammers.
so, of course, the function of applying merit is to reduce spammers, so how can they be free to buy and sell merit in this forum.

In this forum, they absolutely can't buy or sell merit but they can do it through other forums. There are many accounts that have been marked untrusted when posting for sale.

andycarrol

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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on December 08, 2019, 02:26:44 AM

Quote from: asyakashi on November 27, 2019, 07:06:12 PM

should be allowed but at a reasonable price.
I think the forum will benefit from getting payment from new members.
payment using ethereum or bitcoin, good idea.

Do you mean selling or buying merit is the thing that should be done by forum's moderator?

What the hell are you thinking? Merit will be usefull to reduce the spammer on this forum.

new members, in the beginning, they have to pay some satoshi CMIIW.
but regarding buying or selling merit I think this is prohibited because buying and selling accounts is also currently prohibited, which was once permissible. because of many crimes like scammers.
so, of course, the function of applying merit is to reduce spammers, so how can they be free to buy and sell merit in this forum.

Ridwan Fauzi

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Quote from: asyakashi on November 27, 2019, 07:06:12 PM

should be allowed but at a reasonable price.
I think the forum will benefit from getting payment from new members.
payment using ethereum or bitcoin, good idea.

Do you mean selling or buying merit is the thing that should be done by forum's moderator?

What the hell are you thinking? Merit will be usefull to reduce the spammer on this forum.

asyakashi

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should be allowed but at a reasonable price.
I think the forum will benefit from getting payment from new members.
payment using ethereum or bitcoin, good idea.

BobBct

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Seriously, it's been a while that I was able to read about this merit system bitcointalk introduce during 2018 I guess. Well I think in a long run, trading merits going to provide real merits since this is just bought and the actual quality of post can be map as a new user that may later on turns into a negative trust. This is like vote buying during election.

bitcoinst

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Check out the meta thread and reputation. The forum, like a blockchain, stores all data, all communications, all merit sellers connections with merit buyers.
As a result, their discovery is only a matter of time. Further, their accounts are painted in red, which reduces all their efforts to nothing.

In addition, merit is an indicator of human experience in the forum. If someone inexperienced buys merit, then he compromises himself with the quality of the posts he writes, because the quality of the posts of the person who bought merit will rarely correspond to the amount of merit received. Such things can be seen with the naked eye. People who buy merit do not think about it.

As a result, they are exposed, which leads only to negative consequences in particular, but to positive in general (the individual is pushed either to develop himself on the forum or to leave).

Do not complicate your life, getting merit is not the most difficult task, just show a little mind.

jqprez

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on November 15, 2019, 06:04:49 PM

Quote from: jqprez on November 15, 2019, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: akmal1984 on November 14, 2019, 11:43:32 PM

Quote from: DeathProxy on November 14, 2019, 10:38:24 PM

The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

100% agree. Merit should only be given to quality posts. I see more merit being given to accounts reporting fraud in the forum. I am a little confused whether the quality of the post is comparable to other accounts that make mistakes / cheating? if it's really like that then there will be many snitchers later in this forum. Even now everywhere I am sure he is in various sub forums.

totally agree. In italian forum there are"two" accounts with 5 stars ( hero i think) that exchange continuously merits and the moderator don' t stop them.

You can always post up on reputation section regarding on what you have noticed.If you do see something suspicious with their activity then
let the public decide and investigate if its indeed a merit trading between alts or just a casual exchange of meriting between users.
Theres no wrong if you do simultaneously merit a one person as long those merited post are worthy ones.

yes, but if is for one or two times, not continuosly in the same post

carlfebz2

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Quote from: jqprez on November 15, 2019, 02:04:14 AM

Quote from: akmal1984 on November 14, 2019, 11:43:32 PM

Quote from: DeathProxy on November 14, 2019, 10:38:24 PM

The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

100% agree. Merit should only be given to quality posts. I see more merit being given to accounts reporting fraud in the forum. I am a little confused whether the quality of the post is comparable to other accounts that make mistakes / cheating? if it's really like that then there will be many snitchers later in this forum. Even now everywhere I am sure he is in various sub forums.

totally agree. In italian forum there are"two" accounts with 5 stars ( hero i think) that exchange continuously merits and the moderator don' t stop them.

You can always post up on reputation section regarding on what you have noticed.If you do see something suspicious with their activity then
let the public decide and investigate if its indeed a merit trading between alts or just a casual exchange of meriting between users.
Theres no wrong if you do simultaneously merit a one person as long those merited post are worthy ones.

jqprez

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Quote from: akmal1984 on November 14, 2019, 11:43:32 PM

Quote from: DeathProxy on November 14, 2019, 10:38:24 PM

The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

100% agree. Merit should only be given to quality posts. I see more merit being given to accounts reporting fraud in the forum. I am a little confused whether the quality of the post is comparable to other accounts that make mistakes / cheating? if it's really like that then there will be many snitchers later in this forum. Even now everywhere I am sure he is in various sub forums.

totally agree. In italian forum there are"two" accounts with 5 stars ( hero i think) that exchange continuously merits and the moderator don' t stop them.

akmal1984

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Quote from: DeathProxy on November 14, 2019, 10:38:24 PM

The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

100% agree. Merit should only be given to quality posts. I see more merit being given to accounts reporting fraud in the forum. I am a little confused whether the quality of the post is comparable to other accounts that make mistakes / cheating? if it's really like that then there will be many snitchers later in this forum. Even now everywhere I am sure he is in various sub forums.

DeathProxy

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The original plan for merit is to be given to quality post but unfortunately many are now selling it which is not supposed to be so. If this practice continues then we might loose quality post as those who makes quality post wont be encouraged to make quality post any longer. I will advice tha the forum ensures that merit is only given to those that deserves it and not to be sold. Any post that ia not meritable should not be awarded any merit

ropyu1978

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the merit system applied is to appreciate useful posts, no one can trade them because it's a fraud and make it look worthless
so far i think the system is running well and brings good influence for the forum, especially reducing spammers

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