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hero member
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January 09, 2024, 12:17:35 PM
I am exhausted by the new rule already.  I absolutely HATE and despise having to live with a constant fear of getting auto banned for writing a post freely.

Already read the new changes many times and I keep returning to them almost every time I log in.  But I still do not understand a few things and I keep censoring myself to not trigger an automated negative event.  Can some body please reply with a yes / no answer only to the following questions,

Am I allowed to suggest other users to use Mixers as a way to Privacy?
I am allowed to mention Mixers unless their name is their website and I am allowed to discuss about them freely.  Right?
hero member
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January 09, 2024, 10:21:17 AM
Can someone explain the ebb and flow of this chart to me?  I've never really looked into or cared about forum stats before.  Are weekdays/weekends dramatically different and that's what we're seeing? 
Yeah, I analyzed that the decrease in the number of posts occurred around weekends (Saturday-Monday), and special holidays.
I think we can't calculate the effectiveness of the impact of the mixer ban, if these statistics still include several boards that are excluded from being campaign spaces, usually altcoin (and childs) board.
hero member
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January 09, 2024, 09:57:00 AM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.  

Well, looking at the ninjastic.space graphs and without doing much math, the data looks very similar to previous weeks:


Therefore, I would say that there was not such a big impact on the pace of posts on the forum.

Very interesting.  Can someone explain the ebb and flow of this chart to me?  I've never really looked into or cared about forum stats before.  Are weekdays/weekends dramatically different and that's what we're seeing?  I suspect it'll take a while before any change in stats would show up, as I'm sure plenty of users are still delusional and think they'll be able to keep posting and change the forum's stance on mixers, or get accepted into another campaign (they probably will). 
Not only that, if you were kin enough, you would understand that quality posters in the mixer campaigns were already realigned by the campaign managers before the mixer ban was implemented. Also, if you check the service board there are campaigns still open to accept participants, but what really happened is that spammers will find it difficult to join campaigns as there is more competition in the forum.
Talking about people who are still posting with the mindset that theymos mixers decisions could be reversed, I'm not sure such people actually exists. Besides many people are already in the Altcoinstalks promoting mixers.
hero member
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January 08, 2024, 09:12:23 AM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.  I'm also curious what the result for mixer signature campaign participants is.  Did they just move to other signature campaigns and continue their posting habits or did they leave the site altogether?  Has new account registrations been affected?  Are signature campaign managers being flooded with new requests?  Rather than continue to beat a dead horse about no longer allowing them to advertise based on money laundering, I think it would be more useful to start to analyze the effects of this decision (on the community, not the mixers).
Members of the forum are independent forum users,  and regardless of what signature they are out on,  it doesn't reflect much on their activities and posting habits,  unless for those who just want to go outside the box to act otherwise some time just a pay.

I haven't seen much change around since the December 31st deadline and I have seen the majority of those members who were one time promoting the service have worn another signature,  so I believe everyone has moved on, let's look forward to a positive 2024 because presently for the sake of forum members safety, we have to stay the way we represent.
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 08:51:37 PM
Very interesting.  Can someone explain the ebb and flow of this chart to me?  I've never really looked into or cared about forum stats before.  Are weekdays/weekends dramatically different and that's what we're seeing?  I suspect it'll take a while before any change in stats would show up, as I'm sure plenty of users are still delusional and think they'll be able to keep posting and change the forum's stance on mixers, or get accepted into another campaign (they probably will). 

Yes, the data is daily. And normally the number of posts decreases at the weekend, which I believe is a normal thing to happen.

In my opinion, I don't think we see much change because there are no mixer campaigns on the forum. Until 1~2 years ago, we practically only had the ChipMixer campaign. And that wasn't why there were fewer posts. So, I think everything will more or less stay the same. The difference is that some users will receive less money from the campaigns they participate in. Others, because of their level of activity on the forum, will prefer not to participate in campaigns with lower values. However, in the medium term everything will readjust and function normally, without major differences.

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January 07, 2024, 05:05:16 PM
I think it would be more useful to start to analyze the effects of this decision (on the community, not the mixers).
I think that ban on mixers and its signature campaigns won't affect the quality of content on this forum because those who are helpful and post genuine posts, are probably employed, have a good job in IT or programming and enjoy the time spent on this forum without signature campaigns.

Therefore, I would say that there was not such a big impact on the pace of posts on the forum.
All bark and no bite? Sure.
sr. member
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January 07, 2024, 04:42:26 PM
What I meant was the fact that they have a partner exactly with your username.

I am, by no means, related to MedusaMixer.

However authorities are too stupid to realize that CEXs and banks are the biggest threats to their agenda as they operate with impunity, using bribery, exploiting all sorts of legal loopholes etc.

What you describe is a system which has given birth to the present authorities.  Bribing and lobbying is what makes the government so strong.  CEX and banks are not threats.  At cross-purposes, they can become their most effective weapon. 
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 04:16:22 PM
I suppose you are a partner of jambler, am I correct? That would explain your ease of mind

I am not paid by jambler to write in here, no.  I am pissed off about authorities shutting down mixers, but if you see the bright side, now people will make use of decentralized alternatives, which is the reason we have Bitcoin on the whole. 
What I meant was the fact that they have a partner exactly with your username. However authorities are too stupid to realize that CEXs and banks are the biggest threats to their agenda as they operate with impunity, using bribery, exploiting all sorts of legal loopholes etc. Bitcoin just took that opportunity from banks and gave it to everyone willing to make the effort. That could be the reason as to why they are angry and why they sent their minion here to announce a take down.

I have to agree with you on one thing specifically, more they push, the more we succeed. Not to mention the biggest scam in 20th and 21st centuries is USD. go figure.

One could argue Nixon started to scam by leaving the gold standard that covers 1970 to now.

But off topic. I guess.
sr. member
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January 07, 2024, 02:33:21 PM
I suppose you are a partner of jambler, am I correct? That would explain your ease of mind

I am not paid by jambler to write in here, no.  I am pissed off about authorities shutting down mixers, but if you see the bright side, now people will make use of decentralized alternatives, which is the reason we have Bitcoin on the whole. 
legendary
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January 07, 2024, 06:15:15 AM
Even funnier than that is the Contact page and the About Us link at the bottom leads to The Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany with the text 'Want to earn an honest living in crypto? Visit our career page!'.

...paid directly to your bank account via SEPA, wire transfer, or PayPal, after analyzing your ID, passport, criminal history, job history and doing a thorough background check on you using the country's intelligence agency, then yes, but it's not private, it's not really "crypto", and you'd be lucky if it was all "honest living".
donator
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January 06, 2024, 05:30:47 PM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.  

Well, looking at the ninjastic.space graphs and without doing much math, the data looks very similar to previous weeks:


Therefore, I would say that there was not such a big impact on the pace of posts on the forum.

Very interesting.  Can someone explain the ebb and flow of this chart to me?  I've never really looked into or cared about forum stats before.  Are weekdays/weekends dramatically different and that's what we're seeing?  I suspect it'll take a while before any change in stats would show up, as I'm sure plenty of users are still delusional and think they'll be able to keep posting and change the forum's stance on mixers, or get accepted into another campaign (they probably will). 
legendary
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January 06, 2024, 05:26:17 PM
Therefore, I would say that there was not such a big impact on the pace of posts on the forum.
Since majority of mixer campaign members moved to other campaign, that's really not a surprise.


I do not believe this new policy changed their income dramatically.
Dramatically no, but change is noticeable and probably will be even more in the long run as mixer campaigns were traditionally the most paid ones. Still, even with the mixer ban situation is much better than it was few years ago when standard payrate was $50 per week for a Legendary member.
sr. member
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January 06, 2024, 04:46:35 PM
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I do not believe this new policy changed their income dramatically.  From a quick search, there is jambler, exch, yours, wasabi and probably more.  They are all paying more than a hundred bucks per week.  From the popular, is it mixtum, sinbad and mixerio which suspended their operations?  No big deal.
legendary
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January 05, 2024, 09:38:52 PM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.  

Well, looking at the ninjastic.space graphs and without doing much math, the data looks very similar to previous weeks:


Therefore, I would say that there was not such a big impact on the pace of posts on the forum.
legendary
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January 05, 2024, 07:14:54 PM
And here I was hoping and expecting the number of low quality posts and spam to decrease substantially. If any campaign is rewarding participants to post with up to 60 posts per week then I think the full effect of the mixer ban will not be visible when it comes to numbers of post or assessing low quality posts and spam.

With mixers now banned it will leave many members searching for campaigns. How many will continue frequenting the forum if they do not get paid for posting? That also should become apparent within a short space of time.

Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.
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I guess the typical number of posts per day or week won't change that much, long as stuff like Bitvest and Eloncoin campaigns keeps going.  Those reward up to 60 posts per week!  There might be a little drop off, but probably not significantly.  All participants doing the mixer campaigns seemed active and engaged posters.  So they shouldn't have trouble getting into new signature campaigns if they ain't already.

As for other impacts, hard to say just yet.  Too early to make any real judgements on that.
legendary
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January 05, 2024, 05:46:42 PM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.
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I guess the typical number of posts per day or week won't change that much, long as stuff like Bitvest and Eloncoin campaigns keeps going.  Those reward up to 60 posts per week!  There might be a little drop off, but probably not significantly.  All participants doing the mixer campaigns seemed active and engaged posters.  So they shouldn't have trouble getting into new signature campaigns if they ain't already.

As for other impacts, hard to say just yet.  Too early to make any real judgements on that.
donator
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January 05, 2024, 05:20:21 PM
Anybody compiling any stats about how this change has already effected the community?  I'm curious if the amount of posts per day is down at all.  I'm also curious what the result for mixer signature campaign participants is.  Did they just move to other signature campaigns and continue their posting habits or did they leave the site altogether?  Has new account registrations been effected?  Are signature campaign managers being flooded with new requests?  Rather than continue to beat a dead horse about no longer allowing them to advertise on the basis of money laundering, I think it would be more useful to start to analyze the effects of this decision (on the community, not the mixers).
legendary
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January 05, 2024, 03:22:25 PM
So, like I say Coca-Cola, I don't generate any traffic for that company. But, if I say Coca-Cola, I will generate traffic for that company.
(I'm not trying to advertise) Cool
But if it's a less well known brand, and Google pops up cocac0la.com, you'll end up on a phishing site.

Yes this is true. But in these fields, it turns out to be a little irrelevant that a wrong link can occur in any case.

I understand the idea that there is no longer a minimally viable place to validate the information.
legendary
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January 05, 2024, 03:46:27 AM
So, like I say Coca-Cola, I don't generate any traffic for that company. But, if I say Coca-Cola, I will generate traffic for that company.
(I'm not trying to advertise) Cool
But if it's a less well known brand, and Google pops up cocac0la.com, you'll end up on a phishing site.

They (people) will know how to not fall in a phishing site.
Phishing sites wouldn't exist without people falling for them.
hero member
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January 04, 2024, 08:06:50 PM
I guess it's pointless since all the domains were seized?
True.  The clear net website shows the seized image from FBI and only one of the Onion links works but it also shows the seized image once you press Mix.  I wonder why they let the website running and only show it once you press Mix however.

Even funnier than that is the Contact page and the About Us link at the bottom leads to The Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany with the text 'Want to earn an honest living in crypto? Visit our career page!'.

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I find it annoying how the Mixer names are word filtered using []s.  In one of my PMs 'Webmixer' with a link to the website has been filtered to what now shows as '/en/]Webmixer' due to the []s in '[banned mixer]' which closes the URL code.
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