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April 23, 2024, 07:54:13 PM
It looks like some scammers are now trying to take advantage of the gap left due to the mixer ban.

What should be done to users who register in the forum to post phishing/fake mixers?
Are they going to be banned or this is a situation where they just get tagged since it's not a real Bitcoin mixer but just a phishing site?

Take an example of this guy ---> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/best-bitcoin-mixers-in-2024-5493906 (archive: https://ninjastic.space/topic/5493906)
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April 20, 2024, 08:09:30 AM
Thankfully the forum is not hosted in that mini-monstrosity of a server  Grin

Don't call this stack of Raspberry Pi very very old versions (likely Py 1 Rev. B mostly, the top is probably the best of the bunch, not sure if this is even a Pi 3). It hardly looks impressive but this stack of low computing power I wouldn't dare to call a server, frankly. A forum on this crap would be torture even for only a few visitors.

Don't get me wrong, mindrust joked a little, meanwhile we derail the thread's topic to quite an extend. Yay?!
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April 19, 2024, 03:21:48 PM
Thankfully the forum is not hosted in that mini-monstrosity of a server  Grin

It is a random pic I found on google :/
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April 19, 2024, 03:01:20 PM
You can actually host a basic website on it. I have done a similar project myself before. It is probably powerful enough to handle a hundred visitors at the same time  Tongue The fartwind of a DDOS will crash it.

A very strong wind probably wasn't even necessary... 100 hits per second is a very low value for a DDOS attack.
Probably a little sneeze would be enough.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Are you implying that you fart with more power than you sneeze? I guess I’m a powerful sneezer… That seems unusual to me.
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April 19, 2024, 02:45:24 PM
You can actually host a basic website on it. I have done a similar project myself before. It is probably powerful enough to handle a hundred visitors at the same time  Tongue The fartwind of a DDOS will crash it.

A very strong wind probably wasn't even necessary... 100 hits per second is a very low value for a DDOS attack.
Probably a little sneeze would be enough.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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April 19, 2024, 10:24:17 AM
It looks like several Raspberry Pi. What is the CPU/RAM?

I do not know the origins of the image but am curious about it and what it is supposed to denote. What sort of concurrent user number could that sort of device really handle as per what seem to be limited physical capabilities regardless of whether it had the best uptime connection?


It is a random pic I found on google :/

You can actually host a basic website on it. I have done a similar project myself before. It is probably powerful enough to handle a hundred visitors at the same time  Tongue The fartwind of a DDOS will crash it.
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April 19, 2024, 03:43:42 AM
It looks like several Raspberry Pi. What is the CPU/RAM?

I do not know the origins of the image but am curious about it and what it is supposed to denote. What sort of concurrent user number could that sort of device really handle as per what seem to be limited physical capabilities regardless of whether it had the best uptime connection?

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April 19, 2024, 02:56:48 AM
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I actually thought at first: it must be a joke. And at the same time I thought: no, he's not joking. Sometimes in writing, it is difficult to understand some jokes. Mainly in English, which is not my specialty.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You know, unfortunately some have already offered this type of idea as an option, and there is a lot involved in maintaining a website, especially of this size.


@mindrust Always friends!  Wink
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April 18, 2024, 11:58:34 PM


I hate to be the one to tell you this but since you took it this far, you left me no choice.

It was a joke. Of course I know it is not possible to host a big project on a toy. I thought you would figure if you read twice but you didn’t.

Also, another thing you failed to understand is:

Blackhatcoiner probably has the necessary h4x0r skillz for the job.
I already know that this username was a bad choice. You don't have to remind me.  Tongue

As @BlackHatCoiner commented, I will believe you are living up to your name by saying this.


Here, in this post, he meant his own nick name. Not mine. Read his nick.

What do you see?  Black hat coiner. Blackhat=baad.

You know there are 2 kind of hackers in the world. Blackhat and whitehat. And when I called him a “hacker” that’s when he said it was a bad idea to pick this nickname.

Get it now?

If you didn’t, ain’t my problem anymore. I don’t like it when I’m forced to explain my jokes because then I realize it is not funny anymore, more like it is getting dangerous. :d
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April 18, 2024, 07:51:17 PM


So you are saying this server would fail?

I am not sure mate. I think this set up looks pretty capable but I ain't no expert on serverz and shiet. I only know B1 level Javascript and some A2 level node.js.

This is going to work on solar too. A 100w fold-able panel will keep this baby up for a loong time.

enough from me, i'm leaving this topic

What you are saying is the same as someone saying that they can mine Bitcoin with a GPU card instead of an ASIC machine.
Are going mining? Yes. Will it be efficient? No.
It works? Yes. Is it effective? No.

I understand what might be involved, free speech issues and other similar things. And logically we must look for better solutions that minimize this type of impact.
But you can't do things without meaning either. We have to look for solutions that can keep things working in the same way as they do today. If all the change effort is not made, it will no longer have any impact.

Unfortunately, currently there are not that many good solutions - free from the problems in question - that maintain the same quality.
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April 18, 2024, 03:46:26 PM
Maybe it's time to think about moving the forum to a friendlier zone until the new limitations come.

To be honest, I expected this to happen when discussions about the mixer ban started.
Not really into forum politics but I do know there's a lot of BTC in forum reserves and this seemed like a perfect opportunity to use it for the betterment of the forum in general.

I still hope some of the senior members will step up soon, theymos included. There are a lot of smart heads here and surely there's a better option available.

The forum reserves should be good enough to buy an island.

Maybe it is time to start our own republic somewhere in the ocean.

That way we can tell the US to gf himself.


Umm... What else do we need? Interwebz, raspberry pi, an admin...

3 amp adapter? (I heard 2A ain't cutting it anymore)

Firstly, I have doubts that a raspberry can handle the amount of data that is processed on a site like Bitcointalk.
Second, you need to have a dedicated circuit or dedicated IP.
Third, you needed to have a stable enough internet connection to ensure that the site is always online.

Among other things. See some photos of server locations to get some ideas of what a site like this involves.




So you are saying this server would fail?

I am not sure mate. I think this set up looks pretty capable but I ain't no expert on serverz and shiet. I only know B1 level Javascript and some A2 level node.js.

This is going to work on solar too. A 100w fold-able panel will keep this baby up for a loong time.

enough from me, i'm leaving this topic
When FTTH becomes the norm (2030+), I think it would be viable to consider home hosting or maybe even a decentralized forum. How big is the forum database?

There are plans to provide up to 10 Gbps symmetric... copper/xDSL ain't gonna cut it (there's G.Fast, but it's considered energy-intensive compared to pure fiber).
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April 18, 2024, 03:44:18 PM
Bitcoin may not possess the same features as it was made with..

Careful.  That statement is close to letting you find out what actual censorship is...
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April 18, 2024, 03:42:26 PM
The mixer ban cost me 6 or 7k as I lost that signature.
 The USA laws that activated this year cost me 40k mining income maybe less maybe more.
I'm sorry for your loss mate... That's a wholesome amount to have lost due to some unscrupulous government policies... The US and most European countries have been polluted and have built fake image against Bitcoin; and Yes, the future of our toil is somewhat tarnished -- with the sanctions and bans here and there -- Bitcoin may not possess the same features as it was made with..[that's if they decide to leave it be]
They're looking on how to make money, just like the rest of us. Their willing to benefit the country collectively (if any) is secondary. Attacking Bitcoin is, hopefully for the last time, one big financial suicide. Be it now or 10 years ago.
look at that! They keep covering up their greediness with the aim to trace money laundering cases - to which they feel Bitcoin has made that an ease to.
Edit:
Bitcoin may not possess the same features as it was made with..
Careful.  That statement is close to letting you find out what actual censorship is...
I know exactly what I said boss Smiley
The government added censorships to the system, yes! Has Bitcoin totally lost its features, atleast globally? Not yet!
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April 18, 2024, 02:46:58 PM
Umm... What else do we need? Interwebz, raspberry pi, an admin...

3 amp adapter? (I heard 2A ain't cutting it anymore)

Firstly, I have doubts that a raspberry can handle the amount of data that is processed on a site like Bitcointalk.
Second, you need to have a dedicated circuit or dedicated IP.
Third, you needed to have a stable enough internet connection to ensure that the site is always online.

Among other things. See some photos of server locations to get some ideas of what a site like this involves.




So you are saying this server would fail?

I am not sure mate. I think this set up looks pretty capable but I ain't no expert on serverz and shiet. I only know B1 level Javascript and some A2 level node.js.

This is going to work on solar too. A 100w fold-able panel will keep this baby up for a loong time.

enough from me, i'm leaving this topic
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April 18, 2024, 02:39:51 PM
Umm... What else do we need? Interwebz, raspberry pi, an admin...

3 amp adapter? (I heard 2A ain't cutting it anymore)

Firstly, I have doubts that a raspberry can handle the amount of data that is processed on a site like Bitcointalk.
Second, you need to have a dedicated circuit or dedicated IP.
Third, you needed to have a stable enough internet connection to ensure that the site is always online.

Among other things. See some photos of server locations to get some ideas of what a site like this involves.
legendary
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April 18, 2024, 02:30:45 PM
As @BlackHatCoiner commented, I will believe you are living up to your name by saying this.

I am not sure if you understand what's really going on here but ok. Maybe read blackhath4x0r's post again?

Keeping a website running is not simply having a simple computer connected to the internet, there is much more involved. Especially a site like BitcoinTalk.

Umm... What else do we need? Interwebz, raspberry pi, an admin...

3 amp adapter? (I heard 2A ain't cutting it anymore)
legendary
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April 18, 2024, 02:23:19 PM
I think we can host this forum on a raspberry pi 4. Slap a 10tb hdd on it and we are almost ready to rip. If we can manage to hack Elon’s starlink it would be even easier. Blackhatcoiner probably has the necessary h4x0r skillz for the job.

The admin will guard the rpi4 (server) from the US agents while we do surfing on the crazy Atlantic wavezz

As @BlackHatCoiner commented, I will believe you are living up to your name by saying this.
Keeping a website running is not simply having a simple computer connected to the internet, there is much more involved. Especially a site like BitcoinTalk.
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April 18, 2024, 08:55:21 AM
Blackhatcoiner probably has the necessary h4x0r skillz for the job.
I already know that this username was a bad choice. You don't have to remind me.  Tongue



Edit:
I think it's quite evident that governments worldwide and especially the U.S did not attempt to destroy BTC a decade ago when doing so was relatively easy, simply because they understood exactly how it works and they allowed it to grow, and they had a plan of how to control it when the time comes, and as far as things seem to me right now, they have already got the keys -- it's all those large miners located in the U.S.
I think you're overestimating the government's effectiveness. Have you been inside a government-owned department? Government people are little different than ordinary people. They're looking on how to make money, just like the rest of us. Their willing to benefit the country collectively (if any) is secondary. Attacking Bitcoin is, hopefully for the last time, one big financial suicide. Be it now or 10 years ago. Even low-value altcoins do not experience 51% attacks, unless one big hash power holder wants to reverse transactions (again, for profit).

And also,
Quote from: V
Did you think to kill me? There's no flesh or blood within this cloak to kill. There's only an idea. Ideas are bulletproof.

Alright, maybe now the username is spot on!  Cheesy
legendary
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April 18, 2024, 08:49:40 AM
Bitcointalk has been banned in Russia, but who cares.
Maybe it's time to think about moving the forum to a friendlier zone until the new limitations come.
There are no server structures with better performance than those found in the USA or Europe. Therefore, everything ends up being more or less the same, if we want to operate with the same level of quality.

I think we can host this forum on a raspberry pi 4. Slap a 10tb hdd on it and we are almost ready to rip. If we can manage to hack Elon’s starlink it would be even easier. Blackhatcoiner probably has the necessary h4x0r skillz for the job.

The admin will guard the rpi4 (server) from the US agents while we do surfing on the crazy Atlantic wavezz
legendary
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April 18, 2024, 08:33:25 AM
Bitcointalk has been banned in Russia, but who cares.
Maybe it's time to think about moving the forum to a friendlier zone until the new limitations come.

There are no server structures with better performance than those found in the USA or Europe. Therefore, everything ends up being more or less the same, if we want to operate with the same level of quality.

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