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legendary
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August 13, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
Great, Nutildah proved his point (not that it actually matters), maybe he should now visit this page:

Being Too Literal : Living With Mental Illness Forum
http://www.psychforums.com/living-with-mental-illness/topic73233.html
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 08:05:20 PM
the nazis did propaganda, too ... which you seem to accept regarding this coin

kind of hypocritical

Umm, excuse me, how exactly am I promoting propaganda or being hypocritical?

Instead, he feels it's necessary to tack on extremely excessive personal insults and trollling. I have zero respect for that.

I've never said anyone should troll any non-XMR thread or "do propaganda", can you prove that, please?

Sorry, you seem to be grasping at straws.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 08:02:00 PM

Can you please upload the dataset you used to come up with the numbers? Thanks in advance.

XMR prices prior to 5/20 can be found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-mro-monero-trading-thread-and-otc-xchg-578192

Yes, here you go. Thank you for your civility, it is appreciated. Even if my data is not 100% in line with your data, the results are so skewed in bitcoin's favor (of being less volatile) that it would take massive amounts of new XMR data for it to become less volatile than BTC.

BTC data from Coindesk-bip-USD-close, range "7/18/10 - 8/12/14"

XMR data I compiled from 2 separate sources:

Date   Price (BTC)   Change
5/19/2014   0.00415   
5/20/2014   0.00559798   34.89%
5/21/2014   0.003232   -42.26%
5/22/2014   0.0039   20.67%
5/23/2014   0.00550497   41.15%
5/24/2014   0.0077   39.87%
5/25/2014   0.00629   -18.31%
5/26/2014   0.0045   -28.46%
5/27/2014   0.003924   -12.80%
5/28/2014   0.00383727   -2.21%
5/29/2014   0.00295   -23.12%
5/30/2014   0.00255969   -13.23%
5/31/2014   0.0031033   21.24%
6/1/2014   0.0028   -9.77%
6/2/2014   0.00262   -6.43%
6/3/2014   0.00289908   10.65%
6/4/2014   0.0028   -3.42%
6/5/2014   0.0025228   -9.90%
6/6/2014   0.0019   -24.69%
6/7/2014   0.00208   9.47%
6/8/2014   0.00201   -3.37%
6/9/2014   0.002538   26.27%
6/10/2014   0.00264   4.02%
6/11/2014   0.002555   -3.22%
6/12/2014   0.00281   9.98%
6/13/2014   0.0032   13.88%
6/14/2014   0.00401   25.31%
6/15/2014   0.004476   11.62%
6/16/2014   0.00593   32.48%
6/17/2014   0.0047   -20.74%
6/18/2014   0.003947   -16.02%
6/19/2014   0.005316   34.68%
6/20/2014   0.00747   40.52%
6/21/2014   0.00857   14.73%
6/22/2014   0.00712   -16.92%
6/23/2014   0.00664   -6.74%
6/24/2014   0.00545   -17.92%
6/25/2014   0.00582   6.79%
6/26/2014   0.00512   -12.03%
6/27/2014   0.00361   -29.49%
6/28/2014   0.00427   18.28%
6/29/2014   0.0046123   8.02%
6/30/2014   0.00402   -12.84%
7/1/2014   0.00366559   -8.82%
7/2/2014   0.003545   -3.29%
7/3/2014   0.004155   17.21%
7/4/2014   0.0042   1.08%
7/5/2014   0.00382   -9.05%
7/6/2014   0.00381   -0.26%
7/7/2014   0.00315   -17.32%
7/8/2014   0.0037   17.46%
7/9/2014   0.003248   -12.22%
7/10/2014   0.00304   -6.40%
7/11/2014   0.0027911   -8.19%
7/12/2014   0.0028   0.32%
7/13/2014   0.0027   -3.57%
7/14/2014   0.00317928   17.75%
7/15/2014   0.0033959   6.81%
7/16/2014   0.00448075   31.95%
7/17/2014   0.00490133   9.39%
7/18/2014   0.00413945   -15.54%
7/19/2014   0.00458546   10.77%
7/20/2014   0.00421633   -8.05%
7/21/2014   0.00498104   18.14%
7/22/2014   0.00515013   3.39%
7/23/2014   0.00477196   -7.34%
7/24/2014   0.00395781   -17.06%
7/25/2014   0.00412676   4.27%
7/26/2014   0.0044016   6.66%
7/27/2014   0.00431727   -1.92%
7/28/2014   0.00458467   6.19%
7/29/2014   0.00447457   -2.40%
7/30/2014   0.00447197   -0.06%
7/31/2014   0.00438049   -2.05%
8/1/2014   0.00444913   1.57%
8/2/2014   0.0042411   -4.68%
8/3/2014   0.00402492   -5.10%
8/4/2014   0.00340911   -15.30%
8/5/2014   0.00369657   8.43%
8/6/2014   0.00374635   1.35%
8/7/2014   0.00363665   -2.93%
8/8/2014   0.0036766   1.10%
8/9/2014   0.00356557   -3.02%
8/10/2014   0.00345926   -2.98%
8/11/2014   0.00360913   4.33%
8/12/2014   0.003507   -2.83%
hero member
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August 13, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
I tried to be respectful, despite your lack of dignity.

But, I have zero respect for censorzhip nazis. We have no need for self-moderated cowardice here.

I've proven my point.

GG

the nazis did propaganda, too ... which you seem to accept regarding this coin

kind of hypocritical
full member
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August 13, 2014, 07:50:53 PM
1. Volatility is the variance of price over time. Now, since Bitcoin has had 10,000%+ runs during its history along with -93% declines, and Monero has had neither, the burden of mathematical/statistical proof is on you. Please make your calculations.

Here you go. I compared BTC to XMR in 2 ways, the first is a lifetime-to-lifetime comparison and the second runs from 5/20/14 - 8/12/14 (I couldn't find price data for XMR before 5/20).

The average % daily change for BTC across its lifetime is 0.84%, with a standard deviation of 0.0713 (this is the "volatility" number).

The average % daily change for XMR across its lifetime (starting on 5/20) is 1.16%, with a standard deviation of 0.1671, or 2.34x greater volatility than BTC.

The average % daily change for BTC in the same time period as XMR (from 5/20 to 8/12) was 0.33% with a st. dev. of 0.0277, which is 6x less volatile than XMR.

So no matter how you want to cut the numbers, you're wrong.

2. I checked your post history and would like to ask why you so bitter against many people?

Because many people such as yourself get your rocks off by making the world a shittier place for a living.

You are a Monero shill through and through. It is your job to get people to waste their money on this useless bullshit coin. And you can fool most of the people but you're not fooling me because I have an actual understanding and working knowledge of the terms you just throw around to impress others.

And that's how I can tell you are 100% bullshit.

Now have a nice day.


Can you please upload the dataset you used to come up with the numbers? Thanks in advance.

XMR prices prior to 5/20 can be found here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-mro-monero-trading-thread-and-otc-xchg-578192
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:45:28 PM
I tried to be respectful, despite your lack of dignity.

But, I have zero respect for censorzhip nazis. We have no need for self-moderated cowardice here.

I've proven my point.

GG
full member
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August 13, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.

Hey clown,

So it's ok for you to come in here and spam, yet you delete my posts in your thread

Fucking hypocrite, get out of here scum.

LOL reminds me of an old bash.org joke

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#6068 +(2227)- [X]
Chia: Be nice to CAgurl today.
I am always nice to CAgurl. I resent the implication.
I am nice to everyone.
Always.
So shut up.
pigfucker.

legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:42:52 PM
Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.

Hey clown,

So it's ok for you to come in here and spam, yet you delete my posts in your thread

Fucking hypocrite, get out of here scum.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
wah wah wah
So it's ok for you to come in here and spam, yet you delete my posts in your thread

Yep. Shoulda started a moderated thread Wink
hero member
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August 13, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
I'll let you know.

Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.



Sure, but the shilling and odious campaign to promote XMR is so clear to people, so you have to accept some criticism.

No offence intended.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:40:33 PM
wah wah wah

Hey clown,

So it's ok for you to come in here and spam, yet you delete my posts in your thread

Fucking hypocrite, get out of here scum.

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.
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Quote from: statdude on Today at 04:10:06 PM
I wish I could support this but OP seems to be a negative troll so pass.

You felt compelled to write this down?

I did. Just so you know how it feels to have an asshole in your thread.


Players:

Be forewarned, before you buy XCP, that there is a major exploit available and being covered up by the lead dev putting your XCP at risk.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-counterparty-protocol-cfd-exploit-cash-out-any-cfds-708879

Fortunately, it looks like everyone is safe, as nobody is interested anyway.

Oops![/i][/u]
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
1. Volatility is the variance of price over time. Now, since Bitcoin has had 10,000%+ runs during its history along with -93% declines, and Monero has had neither, the burden of mathematical/statistical proof is on you. Please make your calculations.

Here you go. I compared BTC to XMR in 2 ways, the first is a lifetime-to-lifetime comparison and the second runs from 5/20/14 - 8/12/14 (I couldn't find price data for XMR before 5/20).

The average % daily change for BTC across its lifetime is 0.84%, with a standard deviation of 0.0713 (this is the "volatility" number).

The average % daily change for XMR across its lifetime (starting on 5/20) is 1.16%, with a standard deviation of 0.1671, or 2.34x greater volatility than BTC.

The average % daily change for BTC in the same time period as XMR (from 5/20 to 8/12) was 0.33% with a st. dev. of 0.0277, which is 6x less volatile than XMR.

So no matter how you want to cut the numbers, you're wrong.

2. I checked your post history and would like to ask why you so bitter against many people?

Because many people such as yourself get your rocks off by making the world a shittier place for a living.

You are a Monero shill through and through. It is your job to get people to waste their money on this useless bullshit coin. And you can fool most of the people but you're not fooling me because I have an actual understanding and working knowledge of the terms you just throw around to impress others.

And that's how I can tell you are 100% bullshit.

Now have a nice day.
sr. member
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August 13, 2014, 07:18:04 PM
If one wants to feed the trolls its best to do it in their own thread!  I havent been reading their posts, are these DRK trolls?

I'll let you know.

Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.



DRK/BCN trolls usually.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 07:02:12 PM
If one wants to feed the trolls its best to do it in their own thread!  I havent been reading their posts, are these DRK trolls?

I'll let you know.

Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.


legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
I'll let you know.

Have always tried to be respectful in these forums. Unfortunately others don't share the same values.

legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Which thread are you going to troll these limp dick idiots in?  Link pls.... A little trolling after work takes the edge off lol

Just ignored BrilliantRocket. No particular reason other than I'm bored of his posts.

Oh I see. You're a Monero fanboy. Sorry to hear about your massive losses Sad .

Go ahead and troll my thread though, its fine with me. You're only making yourself look like an idiot.

>Caring this much about a coin you have no vested interest in...

Guys,

I forgot how much I love making fun of losers on the internet (and how good I am at it)

I'll start counter-trolling BrilliantRocket and Nutildah as a contribution to the XMR community.
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:54:43 PM
yeah, one more on the ignore, soon my forum experience will be totally free from trolls.

I think you underestimate their "New Account Creation" powers...
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:53:26 PM
Just ignored BrilliantRocket. No particular reason other than I'm bored of his posts.

Oh I see. You're a Monero fanboy. Sorry to hear about your massive losses Sad .

Go ahead and troll my thread though, its fine with me. You're only making yourself look like an idiot.

>Caring this much about a coin you have no vested interest in...

Guys,

I forgot how much I love making fun of losers on the internet (and how good I am at it)

I'll start counter-trolling BrilliantRocket and Nutildah as a contribution to the XMR community.

BrilliantRocket I ignored because he kept saying the same thing over... and over... and over again, trashing XMR in XMR threads.

Obviously he has an agenda in place (DRK). Just got old.
sr. member
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Who cares?
August 13, 2014, 06:50:30 PM
Just ignored BrilliantRocket. No particular reason other than I'm bored of his posts.

Oh I see. You're a Monero fanboy. Sorry to hear about your massive losses Sad .

Go ahead and troll my thread though, its fine with me. You're only making yourself look like an idiot.

>Caring this much about a coin you have no vested interest in...
legendary
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August 13, 2014, 06:33:19 PM
Just ignored BrilliantRocket. No particular reason other than I'm bored of his posts.

Oh I see. You're a Monero fanboy. Sorry to hear about your massive losses Sad .

Go ahead and troll my thread though, its fine with me. You're only making yourself look like an idiot.

You just made yourself look like an idiot for insinuating I have any XMR losses when there is no way you could know what my cost basis is.

Your credibility therefore = 0

I'm going to troll your thread all I want, just so you know how it feels to have unwanted trolls in your thread.

I've forgotten more about sportsbetting and futures than you'll ever know, I'm sure I'll find lots of shitnuggets to troll you about.

Enjoy, bitch.

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